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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-30 04:06:29
November 30 2007 03:54 GMT
#1
As many of you know by now, LastShadow was banned this week. However, this thread will not seek to elaborate further on this fact. FakeSteve's explanation on the ban can be found here for those of you who have not seen it. Instead there is another area of his existence that we have an obligation to elucidate to the community: one of cheating and abuse.

While LastShadow's questionable forum behavior has been well documented, his cheating ways heretofore have not. This thread will change that. We have compiled a pack of replays where LastShadow is seen playing with "rigged" maps that give his race, Terran, an unnatural advantage. Simply put, the units are cheaper and they build faster.

His "abuse" was spotted against a variety of players, in a multitude of settings and on a wide selection of maps themselves. But how exactly would we describe this crime? After all, he isn't "hacking" right?

I believe CTStalker said it best when he commented with the following.

"...rigging maps is taking advantage of an implicit trust between a gamer and his opponent for using legitimate UMS melee maps..."

This "trust" is indeed the crux of the matter at hand. Is this "trust" not one of the most inherent and important elements in this community? Without this inherent and understood relationship between members of the community, would any of our interactions hold up? LastShadow has clearly violated this implicit trust, and he must understand the seriousness of his actions.

We have arranged below the known instances of LastShadow's rigged map use in chronological order. Details of how we extracted the map data can be found in the spoiler tag directly below.

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http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=56292

Here's a guide to Rexplorer. Rexplorer is a utility that bends the info on a replay and some extra tool with the windows environment. It allows you to quickly get info from the rep without watching it but also to get map pictures (overviews), extract maps from replay files and many other things.

Normally known maps would be locked, but when extracting maps from most of LastShadow's replays, you can see they are not. This is because LastShadow unlocked known versions of maps (WGTour, ICCup) and changed unit costs, unit build times and even units stats in some of them). Then he forgot to re-lock them, so the process of checking it became even easier.

With Rexplorer installed, you right click a replay and select "Extract map" -> "extract here" and voilá: you have the map that was used to play that game. After that, you just open the map with StarCraft's map editor and you can change any properties, in this case unit's costs.



>>RigReps.rar<<



[image loading]Xion_G.ShadOw vs [image loading]Art.DawN (XDawn) 1 (Played on 28/07/2007)

Played on: WGT14 - Lost Temple 2.4 (Ob), rigged in favor of T.

+ Show Spoiler [A little help from the map editor] +

Marine (build time 24->21)
Vulture (build time 30->25, cost 75->50)
Goliath (build time 40->35)
Siege Tank (build time 50->44, cost 150/100->125/100)
SCV (build time 20->18)
Firebat (build time 24->21)
Medic (build time 30->25)
Science Vessel (build time 80->75)
Wraith (build time 60->55)

Command Center (build time 120->100)
Supply Depot (build time 40->38)
Refinery (build time 40->38)
Barracks (build time 80->70)
Factory (build time 80->75)
Science facility (build time 60->55)
Armory (build time 80->75)
Academy (build time 80->75)
Eng. bay (build time 60->55)
Missile Turret (build time 30->25)
Physics lab (build time 40->35)




[image loading]Xion_G.ShadOw vs [image loading]Art.DawN (XDawn) 2 (Played on 28/07/2007)
[image loading]Xion_G.ShadOw (LastShadow) vs [image loading]Xion_G.Fenix (Played on 31/07/2007)
[image loading]GorillA[FARM] (LastShadow) vs [image loading]Xion_G.MIStrZZZ 1 (Played on 31/07/2007)

Played on: Tau Cross 1.1, rigged mainly for TvP

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Marine (build time 24->20, hit points 40->35) (LOL)
Vulture (build time 30->25, cost 75->50)
Goliath (build time 40->35, cost 100/50-> 75/50)
Siege Tank (build time 50->45, cost 150/100->125/75)
SCV (build time 20->18)
Firebat (build time 24->20, hit points 50->45) (LOL)
Medic (build time 30->25, hit points 60->55) (LOL)
Science Vessel (build time 80->55, cost 100/225->100/200)
Wraith (build time 60->55, cost 150/100->125/100)
Dropship (build time 50->40)
Battlecruiser (build time 133->90, cost 400/300->300/250)

Command Center (build time 120->100)
Supply Depot (build time 40->38)
Refinery (build time 40->38)
Barracks (build time 80->75)
Factory (build time 80->70, cost 200/100->150/100)
Starport (build time 70->60, cost 150/100-> 125/100)
Science facility (build time 60->55)
Armory (build time 80->75)
Academy (build time 80->75)
Eng. bay (build time 60->55)
Missile Turret (build time 30->25)
Physics lab (build time 40->35)




[image loading]GorillA[FARM] (LastShadow) vs [image loading]MIStrZZZ 2 (Played on 31/07/2007)
[image loading]GorillA[FARM] (LAstShadow) vs [image loading]MIStrZZZ 3 (Played on 31/07/2007)

Played on: BKC-7 Gaia1.0, rigged mainly for TvP

+ Show Spoiler [Terran buff] +
Marine (build time 24->20)
Vulture (build time 30->25, cost 75->50)
Goliath (build time 40->34, cost 100/50-> 75/50)
Siege Tank (build time 50->45, cost 150/100->125/100)
SCV (build time 20->18)
Science Vessel (build time 80->55, cost 100/225-> 100/200)

Command Center (build time 120->100)
Supply Depot (build time 40->38)
Refinery (build time 40->37)
Barracks (build time 80->70)
Factory (build time 80->75)
Starport (build time 70->60)
Science facility (build time 60->50)
Armory (build time 80->75)




[image loading]DeathLife (LastShadow) vs [image loading]Spekkio (Played on 16/11/2007)

Played on: Tau Cross v12Test, rigged in favor of T.

+ Show Spoiler [magic magic magic] +
Marine (build time 24->21)
Vulture (build time 30->25, cost 75->50)
Goliath (build time 40->35)
Siege Tank (build time 50->45, cost 150/100->125/100)
SCV (build time 20->19)
Firebat (build time 24->21)
Medic (build time 30->25)
Science Vessel (build time 80->70, cost 100/225->100/200)
Dropship (build time 50->45)
Battlecruiser (build time 133->111, cost 400/300->350/250)

Command Center (build time 120->100)
Supply Depot (build time 40->39)
Refinery (build time 40->39)
Barracks (build time 80->75)
Factory (build time 80->75)
Starport (build time 70->65)
Science facility (build time 60->75) (WHAT?)
Eng. bay (build time 60->55)




[image loading]Inferno (LastShadow) vs [image loading]Forece Divided By Area (Chill) 1 (Played on 25/11/2007)
[image loading]Inferno (LastShadow) vs [image loading]Forece Divided By Area (Chill) 2 (Played on 25/11/2007)
[image loading]Inferno (LastShadow) vs [image loading]Forece Divided By Area (Chill) 3 (Played on 25/11/2007)

Played on: Gaia 1.1, rigged in favor of T.

+ Show Spoiler [modifications] +
Even though he didn't have an advantage on this map, it just proves how many different versions of rigged maps he has and this isn't just a mistake like he tried to argue before.




[image loading]Inferno (LastShadow) vs [image loading]zulu (zulu_nation8) (Played on 26/11/2007)

Played on: _ iCCup _ Tau Cross, rigged for TvZ

+ Show Spoiler [Patch notes] +
Marine (build time 24->22)
Siege Tank (build time 50->45, cost 150/100->125/100)
SCV (build time 20->19) (wut)
Firebat (build time 24->22)
Medic (build time 30->25)
Science Vessel (build time 80->70)
Dropship (build time 50->45)

Command Center (build time 120->100)
Supply Depot (build time 40->39)
Refinery (build time 40->39)
Barracks (build time 80->75)
Factory (build time 80->75)
Starport (build time 70->65)
Academy (build time 80->75)
Eng. bay (build time 60->55)
Missile Turret (build time 30->29)





One can clearly see that LastShadow has been consistently abusing modified maps over the course of several months. He has used them in friendly games (vs Chill/Zulu), and he has used them in serious games (vs MIStrZZZ). In every imaginable circumstance, he has consistently and repeatedly cheated. I should not have to explain why this is absolutely unacceptable.

When Nony caught LastShadow red-handed several weeks ago, LastShadow claimed that "it was a mistake", and that he would make sure to get rid of all his altered maps. But here we are now, with clear evidence that he used yet another set of rigged maps, attempting to abuse his way out of playing zulu_nation_8 and Chill on equal terms. Not only did LastShadow go out of bounds to begin with, he has compounded his wrongdoings by going back on his own words. There is simply no excuse for this kind of behavior.

The community has been wronged, and it has a right to be told the truth. We go back again to the issue of trust in the community and in the game in general. Perhaps the person behind the "LastShadow" character can reinvent himself, this time as a morally scrupulous and upstanding character. However, the persona "LastShadow", cheater and abuser, has no place in our community.


Thank you to everyone who was involved in the investigation process. This would not have been possible without your time, effort, and resources.
Moderator<:3-/-<
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 30 2007 03:55 GMT
#2
HellO!
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 30 2007 03:56 GMT
#3
epic.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 30 2007 03:57 GMT
#4
LOL GOSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!!

SHADOWTERRAN FTW
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5521 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-30 04:08:48
November 30 2007 04:00 GMT
#5
!
NICE
!

Does this mean his TvP guide only works with these maps?

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FUCK YOU LASTSHADOW
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
November 30 2007 04:00 GMT
#6
Ya I played him on that rigged tau cross map. I was suprised that he was able to win with goliath/tank only, despite not playing very well
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
November 30 2007 04:01 GMT
#7
Where be the replays? I must see them :D
Mango @ U.S.East!
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
November 30 2007 04:02 GMT
#8
trash like that always cheats
good thing im 2-0 up.
I don't think I played on the rigged maps though
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
November 30 2007 04:04 GMT
#9
yes, his last remains are finished!
Teamliquidian townie
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
November 30 2007 04:04 GMT
#10
Interesting
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
November 30 2007 04:06 GMT
#11
ITW is too good.
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
November 30 2007 04:06 GMT
#12
rofl i remember him calling me trash and i 4-0ed him, even with his special maps lol
I'm like, the coolest
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 30 2007 04:07 GMT
#13
Ahahahahhahahaahahhahahahahhaaha.
The best part is how he got away with calling it a mistake and then DID IT AGAIN LMAFAO
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 30 2007 04:07 GMT
#14
On November 30 2007 13:01 Scorpion wrote:
Where be the replays? I must see them :D


They're linked in the OP, RigReps.Rar
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
crescendo
Profile Joined April 2007
United States140 Posts
November 30 2007 04:07 GMT
#15
ITW is a straight-up gangsta.
this mic is live
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
November 30 2007 04:09 GMT
#16
it's good for the community to know the truth, and to keep an eye out in the future for rigged maps from lastshadow specifically, but also just in general

thanks for your efforts in compiling this case
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
November 30 2007 04:10 GMT
#17
Definitely a win for the community as a whole, post around to your b.net friends. I saw the replays a few days ago and they are quite entertaining.

As for Last Shadow himself?....I guess he just couldn't handle the pressure of playing legit.

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Oh come on someone had to start it
[image loading]
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
November 30 2007 04:15 GMT
#18
On November 30 2007 13:06 ArC_man wrote:
ITW is too good.


The engineering of this took many people to be finished, I just dropped the drama-bomb.
Moderator<:3-/-<
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-30 04:22:12
November 30 2007 04:21 GMT
#19
HAHHAH

hf gl LS. Long live.
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
November 30 2007 04:22 GMT
#20
LOLLLL thought this was a joke at first, but watch the reps!
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