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Lucifron vs Spades - YOU WIN!

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WesternWolves
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium89 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 19:09:03
May 24 2012 22:48 GMT
#1
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LIVE LIVE LIVE LIVE

http://www.twitch.tv/glhf


*** UPDATE ***


To attract a bigger amount of viewers, we have changed the date to a more suitable one. The show-match between LucifroN and Spades will happen Sunday 3rd of June (03/06/12), at 21:00 CET or 3:00PM EST. That means that there's still plenty of time to enter the giveaway, so make sure to do so!

Giveaway details below!


It is a pleasure to finally announce what surely will be a legendary encounter between two of the most renown foreigners of the game. Western Wolves' Brian “Spades” Francis will be facing the current Spanish champion Pedro “LucifroN” Moreno Duran for an epic best-of-seven battle set to begin the Sunday 3rd of June (03/06/12), at 21:00 CET or 3:00PM EST.. The former WC3 progamer is looking to continue his impressive streak, while the American veteran, who has been lurking in the shadows as of late, will be returning to the lime light. The showmatch will be shoutcasted in two languages, GLHF.tv's Martijn Bloemheuvel for the English side, and Miguel Montero and Roberto Clemente in Spanish. That's not it! We're also bringing an amazing giveaway to all of the viewers in collaboration with Western Digital.

How do I win? Simple. All you have to do is register in our website (www.westernwolves.com), and enter the contest by hitting the sign-up button on this page. You'll have the chance of winning a top tier hard drive, the Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB, with the effort of a few clicks! The winner will be announced on both streams, so make sure to tune in.

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Who?: Lucifron vs Spades
When?: Sunday 3rd of June (03/06/12), at 21:00 CET or 3:00PM EST.
What do I win?: A Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB
How do I win?: By signing-up here.

Where?:

www.twitch.tv/glhf (English)
www.twitch.tv/primalgamers (Spanish)


Official announcement: http://westernwolves.com/content/News/LucifroN_vs_Spades_showmatch_where_you_win-246.html
Spanish official announcement: http://www.primalgamers.es/2012/05/25/showmatch-spades-t-vs-lucifron-t/
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
May 24 2012 22:51 GMT
#2
Hm.

hmmm........

Yeaaaaaah.

Lucifron.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 24 2012 22:53 GMT
#3
Should be an easy win for Lucifron. Has Spades had any results in 2012?
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
May 24 2012 22:55 GMT
#4
I think you guys discredit Spades too much. Guy's got skill, and it's definitely not going to be easy for Lucifron. Wouldn't be surprised to see Spades take it.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 22:55:35
May 24 2012 22:55 GMT
#5
Gl to Spades, I hope WW picks up some more players and does more exposure in the VTfuture.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
JungHyun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States47 Posts
May 24 2012 22:56 GMT
#6
Spades has a good chance of winning, glgl
Age is only a number.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 22:57:43
May 24 2012 22:57 GMT
#7
I'll put it this way. If both of these players are at the level they were when I last saw them play, then this will not be a contest. But I haven't seen Spades play in forever and he did beat me once by only rallying marines, so I guess he deserves some slack on my end.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
May 24 2012 23:08 GMT
#8
On May 25 2012 07:55 Whiplash wrote:
Gl to Spades, I hope WW picks up some more players and does more exposure in the VTfuture.

rofl

zing
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 24 2012 23:13 GMT
#9
Lucifron by a mile :x
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Smoodish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 23:22:20
May 24 2012 23:21 GMT
#10
Ah yep, that's lucifrons win o.o .
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
May 24 2012 23:22 GMT
#11
On May 25 2012 07:55 Dalguno wrote:
I think you guys discredit Spades too much. Guy's got skill, and it's definitely not going to be easy for Lucifron. Wouldn't be surprised to see Spades take it.


no we dont discredit Spades, its just that Lucifron just 4-0 Thorzain... you know the guy who beat Polt, you know the guy who beat MMA, the guy who beat Mvp :D

its just that they are not on the same level of skill...
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 23:36:27
May 24 2012 23:36 GMT
#12
I'm not calling it either way, but if Spades wins this I'm going to have a field day with some of the quotes here. You can say a lot of things about Luci, but even in beta, he was and still is never consistent. I have masses of respect for the guy, but I would never bet on the shape of the day he's in.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
May 24 2012 23:38 GMT
#13
Seems a strange idea for a show match. Lucifron is miles ahead of him, he should win easily. The only thing that gives me any doubt is the luck involved in mirrors. Maybe if Spades wins a couple of coin flips he'll have a chance.
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
May 24 2012 23:44 GMT
#14
On May 25 2012 08:36 Martijn wrote:
I'm not calling it either way, but if Spades wins this I'm going to have a field day with some of the quotes here. You can say a lot of things about Luci, but even in beta, he was and still is never consistent. I have masses of respect for the guy, but I would never bet on the shape of the day he's in.

Still... Spades has never been a very successful player. 32 % winrate in 2012 against players including losses to players like Glon, Roll and Pyre (no offense to these players, but none of them are close to Lucifron's level). Meanwhile, Lucifron has been owning the EU scene for the past few months including a recent 4-0 of Thorzain, who most people consider a top 5 foreigner.

Lucifron seems to be the kind of player that can beat basically anyone by sheer talent. Judging by the level he is playing at right now, I would put few foreigners as a favorite against him.

Lucifron 4-0 imo
What a player
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
May 24 2012 23:53 GMT
#15
Im calling it Lucifron 4-1 with spades taking a lucky game due to build order win or some form of allin. Gogo Lucifron!!
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 25 2012 00:04 GMT
#16
On May 25 2012 08:36 Martijn wrote:
I'm not calling it either way, but if Spades wins this I'm going to have a field day with some of the quotes here. You can say a lot of things about Luci, but even in beta, he was and still is never consistent. I have masses of respect for the guy, but I would never bet on the shape of the day he's in.

Be that as it may looking at Spades record I feel that the only way for Spades to win it is if he would happen to have a very good day and Lucifron have a bad one.

Looking at Lucifron's record it also appears that his kind of inconsistency is more based around whether he's being active (when he tears through people) and when he's not (when he's being torn apart). Looking at his record from the last 6 weeks he's been doing very well with wins in The Gathering and the Scan Invite #5.

During this time his overall record is only at 65% but his TvT is at 91%. I do realize that 11 games (for the TvT) is a very small sample size but going 10-1 against meRz, BRAT_OK and ThorZaIN does count for something.

Spades' record over 2012 is at 42% overall with a 25% record on TvT. A sample size of 8 games for TvT is even smaller but the caliber of players is different: 2-6 against DieStar, Satiini and Pyre. Having said this though his most recent TvT on record was in late March so he could have improved a lot.

Having said all of this I still stand by my original opinion that Lucifron is quite likely to take this. Not going to commit myself to an exact score but I think 4-1 is the most likely one followed by a 4-0.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
May 25 2012 00:15 GMT
#17
Well... this does sound like an easy win for Lucifron in theory...

Gogo Lucifron!
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
kaifragrance
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada50 Posts
May 25 2012 00:16 GMT
#18
Would like to see Spades win! I haven't seen him much in the scene. =]
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
May 25 2012 00:21 GMT
#19
im sry but this wont be even close.lucifron will X:0 spades.
Top50 GM EU Protoss from Bulgaria. Streaming with commentary : www.twitch.tv/hwbgmethix
ScienceRob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States382 Posts
May 25 2012 00:31 GMT
#20
When did lucifron 4-0 thorzain? Links/replays/vods?
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