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Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 13:19:23
May 25 2012 13:18 GMT
#2121
On May 25 2012 22:12 summerloud wrote:
terrans dominate GSL ever since it started

we finally get an even race distribution

much terran QQ ensues...

srsly wtf?


If you people could actually look past your noses and see past even race distribution you'd understand why.

THE POINT OF THIS GAME IS NOT TO HAVE EVEN RACIAL DISTRIBUTION. IT'S TO HAVE THE BETTER PLAYERS WIN.
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
May 25 2012 13:18 GMT
#2122
On May 25 2012 22:18 Maxilicious wrote:
Just curious, who will be the two seeded players for code s this upcoming season?


One of them will probably be Stephano
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
May 25 2012 13:19 GMT
#2123
On May 25 2012 22:17 SkullZ9 wrote:
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On May 25 2012 22:14 SolidMustard wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:09 summerloud wrote:
12 terran, 8 zerg, 10 protoss, i like that race distribution for code s

the other two spots are for seeds i guess?


I think so.

And that ratio for T/Z/P is pretty nice.

Although I'll never stop smiling when if the day comes where Terran is least represented in Code S.


I don't want to start an argument and I'm happy there is a good racial distribution, but if it happens (terran least represented race in Code S) it would probably mean a balance problem, as terran is the most used race among korean pros.


It's the most used cause it was the stronger, and some players did very well with that race when it was imba, but now that the game is balanced, many terrans who were dominant have disappeared


Uh no. So wrong. Who are you talking about? rainbow? GMAFB.
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 13:20:42
May 25 2012 13:20 GMT
#2124
On May 25 2012 22:17 Teoita wrote:
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On May 25 2012 22:16 s3rp wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:15 jacksonlee wrote:
MKP would've been fine if he built extra command centers, which is not much of an investment that late in the game


Extra CC's don't kill a Toss on 4+ Bases with Storm and Colossi and 15-20 Gates. If Toss reaches this its just over.


Yeah right workers and expansions aren't fighting units so we shouldn't build them.


You cannot reeinforce fast enough as a Terran anymore at that point . You will get overrun if the Toss eco is too big after a fight . No amount of economy is ever going to change that. In fact the only chance Terran has is throw away his workers build as big of an army as possible and hope to win 1 big fight. If you don't succeed you can just leave the game.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 25 2012 13:20 GMT
#2125
On May 25 2012 22:17 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 22:14 SolidMustard wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:09 summerloud wrote:
12 terran, 8 zerg, 10 protoss, i like that race distribution for code s

the other two spots are for seeds i guess?


I think so.

And that ratio for T/Z/P is pretty nice.

Although I'll never stop smiling when if the day comes where Terran is least represented in Code S.


I don't want to start an argument and I'm happy there is a good racial distribution, but if it happens (terran least represented race in Code S) it would probably mean a balance problem, as terran is the most used race among korean pros.


It's the most used cause it was the stronger, and some players did very well with that race when it was imba, but now that the game is balanced, many terrans who were dominant have disappeared

If a race is stronger causing more people to pick it, when that race gets nerfed to a fairly balanced state, there will still be more people playing it, and thus it should have a higher representation.

It's a genuine possibility that there are more highly skilled Korean Terrans than Protoss or Zerg, meaning a perfectly balanced game could theoretically still have more Terrans at the top level. Is it definitely the case? No. But there is a reasonable argument to be made for it.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
May 25 2012 13:20 GMT
#2126
On May 25 2012 22:18 Maxilicious wrote:
Just curious, who will be the two seeded players for code s this upcoming season?


Stephano is the first. The second has not been announced.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 25 2012 13:21 GMT
#2127
Mr Chae is in love with Stephano, so the slot is definitely his if he wants it.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 25 2012 13:22 GMT
#2128
On May 25 2012 22:12 Plexa wrote:
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On May 25 2012 22:09 Adreme wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:05 Plexa wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:04 Adreme wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:03 Plexa wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:00 Plexa wrote:
When will terrans start massing starports BEFORE the protoss has 6 colossus ._.

MarineKing had 3 reactor Starports before Ace had a Robo Bay.

Hmm I stand corrected. With that said, trying to attack into a protoss with 6 colossus without vikings is really dumb


He was maxed out, he didnt have any choice but to attack into it.

That's a bad excuse, sac SCVs, sac medivacs (he had 123123), sac some army.. no reason to suicide


All of those medivacs were the only reason he was holding out against the storms. Im not even sure there was enough time to sac the scvs then build enough vikings before army wouldve gone to him instead.

It seemed like, by the way MKP was just constantly attacking, that his goal was to end the game before he was able to have both collosus and storm in his army.

MKP was playing really really well right up until that attack. iirc he had a 50 supply advantage until he made that attack. His overeagerness to snipe the colossus with his ground forces cost him his army, and consequently the game. He tried to snipe the one colossus moving out from the main, but Ace's army was just around the corner. MKP should have got out of there ASAP after seeing the rest of the army and pulled his other vikings into position.


I figure he didnt think he would be able to fight collosus and storm and thought he had a shot at catching the collosus out of position and took it cause once collosus are gone its just storm which mass medivac style seemed to be doing well against. There was also small problem that by that point in the game he was also behind on economy so he needed to do damage and pulling back just lets him get more ahead and have Ace fight under his terms.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 25 2012 13:23 GMT
#2129
On May 25 2012 22:20 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 22:18 Maxilicious wrote:
Just curious, who will be the two seeded players for code s this upcoming season?


Stephano is the first. The second has not been announced.

Thorzain should come to Korea and represent Terran more.
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 13:23:24
May 25 2012 13:23 GMT
#2130
On May 25 2012 22:12 summerloud wrote:
terrans dominate GSL ever since it started

we finally get an even race distribution

much terran QQ ensues...

srsly wtf?


T is the most used race by korean pro, maybe like an half of the top class players.... so if it's even distribution in code S, that could mean terran underpowered
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 25 2012 13:23 GMT
#2131
On May 25 2012 22:15 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
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On May 25 2012 22:12 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:08 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:03 Plexa wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:00 Plexa wrote:
When will terrans start massing starports BEFORE the protoss has 6 colossus ._.

MarineKing had 3 reactor Starports before Ace had a Robo Bay.

Hmm I stand corrected. With that said, trying to attack into a protoss with 6 colossus without vikings is really dumb


He did have vikings. Check the VOD. And stop calling players dumb. It might have been a mistake, but that doesn't make a player dumb. Also, wasn't that something that is called player bashing and is a bannable offense?


Because 5-6 vikings beats 6 colo that are on high ground with stalker/archon/ht support?? It's smart?? Get off your high horse and use your brain


Hey, I wasn't making any claims about whether that was a mistake or not. I thought he didn't have enough vikings as well, but that's because the colossus count wasn't clear. But there were several inaccuracies in Plexa's point that culminated in calling a player dumb. If that's how you want to talk about the game, have fun.


Did you read what i said? I didn't say he was dumb, either did PLEXA. We both said that the decision to attack in the position was dumb. It lost him the game, you could see it on his face in the booth when he threw his hands in the air and shook his head while it happened. Also yes he had 3 starports, but barely built any vikings. He kept massing MMM vs colo and storm. Would that be considered a smart decision? Notice i say 'Smart decision' not MKP IS SO DUMB OMG IM BASHING HIM. Now go away


Hey, keep it civil. I read what you wrote, it was about me not using my brain (nice...). And I still contend that calling someone's actions dumb is not different from calling someone dumb because they are both rude and should not enter civilized discussion.

We both agree that he did not make enough vikings, yet, Plexa wrote that he did not have vikings. There's a difference there too. Plexa later said the problem was that he didn't realize the colossus count was high and failed to pull back or to make a concave, and I agree, I think he was drawn between the two decisions, and hence he made the indecisive mistake and sealed his loss.

Now, if you start using the more polite phrases all the time, you'd find that conversations will be much more pleasant for you in the future.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Kotschmonaut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany117 Posts
May 25 2012 13:23 GMT
#2132
hey, i havent seen aces match vs B4, what was the special thing about it ? ace must have done smth extraordinary seemingly...
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 13:23:57
May 25 2012 13:23 GMT
#2133
On May 25 2012 22:23 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 22:20 Porcelina wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:18 Maxilicious wrote:
Just curious, who will be the two seeded players for code s this upcoming season?


Stephano is the first. The second has not been announced.

Thorzain should come to Korea and represent Terran more.


Thorzain doesn't quite belong in code s yet, though he might get there eventually i suppose.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
May 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#2134
On May 25 2012 22:04 FatalT wrote:
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On May 25 2012 22:04 An2quamaraN wrote:
MKP dont cry You already robbed ST of victory once, your a-move MMM is not working anymore...just deal with it...


Note sure if serious.... MKP a-move? haha..


Well, he does a-move....

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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
May 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#2135
GSL Code S has always been the best place for Terran players, now if even on the highest level Terrans dont win macro games anymore, what about ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS BELOW THAT from bronze to grandmaster, how are they supposed to win a macro game with terran?
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
May 25 2012 13:25 GMT
#2136
On May 25 2012 22:23 Kotschmonaut wrote:
hey, i havent seen aces match vs B4, what was the special thing about it ? ace must have done smth extraordinary seemingly...


Let's just say that if a BW pro did what he did, this thread would be 100 pages longer full of "OMGZZZ AMAZIN"
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 25 2012 13:25 GMT
#2137
On May 25 2012 22:23 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 22:23 canikizu wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:20 Porcelina wrote:
On May 25 2012 22:18 Maxilicious wrote:
Just curious, who will be the two seeded players for code s this upcoming season?


Stephano is the first. The second has not been announced.

Thorzain should come to Korea and represent Terran more.


Thorzain doesn't quite belong in code s yet, though he might get there eventually i suppose.


Wouldn't it be cool to have the Stephano-Thorzain-Naniwa trio in Code S? They are pretty much the strongest foreigners at the moment.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 25 2012 13:25 GMT
#2138
On May 25 2012 22:18 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 22:12 summerloud wrote:
terrans dominate GSL ever since it started

we finally get an even race distribution

much terran QQ ensues...

srsly wtf?


If you people could actually look past your noses and see past even race distribution you'd understand why.

THE POINT OF THIS GAME IS NOT TO HAVE EVEN RACIAL DISTRIBUTION. IT'S TO HAVE THE BETTER PLAYERS WIN.

Yeah and Terran players are naturally the better players, so of course they have to win more.

We have heard this story before.
Off-season = best season
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 25 2012 13:26 GMT
#2139
Stephano is not playing in Code S this season, he's only going for one monthish in August according to a recent interview.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
May 25 2012 13:26 GMT
#2140
On May 25 2012 22:20 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 22:18 Maxilicious wrote:
Just curious, who will be the two seeded players for code s this upcoming season?


Stephano is the first. The second has not been announced.


Even though its not been announced, It HAS to be Thorzain no?
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
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