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ashortstory
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil160 Posts
May 19 2012 23:56 GMT
#2341
I hope the finals is Stephano against Violet. You guys need to understand the true love about seing a high level play Zerg against Zerg.
Thomanson
Profile Joined November 2011
United States215 Posts
May 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#2342
On May 20 2012 08:55 SecondSandwich wrote:
Anyone know of any restreams going on today?


There's a really fancy one at MLG. It has multiple streams. For a reasonable price.

If you mean free ones? Nope, sorry. Not a leeching douche.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26760 Posts
May 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#2343
On May 20 2012 08:56 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:52 Zeborg wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:49 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:46 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:43 mememolly wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:42 TheLovingone wrote:
someone can still saying stephano isnt the best out of korea? :s


no 0ne can question that now,

polt stephano rematch would be epic



I mean, you could argue Naniwa. Since he placed top 8 gsl...

I think Stephano is fantastic, but I don't think you can call him the best outside of Korea until we see his GSL results.


Naniwa doesnt even come close to Stephano to tournament wins and top placement in major lans. Its not so long ago Naniwa got knocked out in Dreamhack.

But enough of this best foreigner crap Stephano are a top 3 zerg player in the world. Mr Boss toss himself sayd that


Naniwa has done well at MLG Providence. I'm a Stephano fan but let's be open-minded here.


1 tournament?

Stephano: Multiple Assemply top placement, ESWC, IPL 3, IPL 4, Lonestar clash MLG winter arena 2 + dominating the foreign scene for allmost a year winning every big online tournament with money in. He have also won twice as much price winnings then Naniwa..

You cant really compare those 2.

In case you missed my previous post on this.

'Stephano went 0-3 in the first pool at the last Dreamhack Winter which I attended, people have off days

The Nani-Stephano comparison is tough for a variety of reasons. Naniwa places GSL above all else, and indeed doesn't attend as many foreign tournaments to focus on this. At the last Dreamhack the guy admitted he hadn't even played a PvZ in weeks due to focusing so hard on his GSL matches.

Stephano focuses on placing in foreign tournaments, which is where the money is really, and is less concerned about the prestige of the GSL.

Stephano's best matchup is ZvP, which is Naniwa's worst matchup, so even head-to-heads don't really split them particularly. I just don't think Stephano has done anything that puts him on another plane to Nani.'
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
May 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#2344
When did Stephano play vs Polt? 0o
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano/games#tblt-11841-1-default-0-Polt
The curse is real
Zeborg
Profile Joined November 2010
107 Posts
May 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#2345
On May 20 2012 08:55 lulutheking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:52 xrapture wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:48 Azarkon wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:46 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:43 mememolly wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:42 TheLovingone wrote:
someone can still saying stephano isnt the best out of korea? :s


no 0ne can question that now,

polt stephano rematch would be epic



I mean, you could argue Naniwa. Since he placed top 8 gsl...

I think Stephano is fantastic, but I don't think you can call him the best outside of Korea until we see his GSL results.


Naniwa, okay, he's about the same.

But I don't think there's another player that you are able to argue this for.


Yea, Stephano and Naniwa seem to be interchangeable at this point because good arguments can be made for either at this point and we'll never really know until they play eachother in a meaningful game.

Huk,Thorzain are a tier right under them but players like Lucifron and Kas can fight for those spots too.


I don't agree with you, Kas and Lucifron are very good ladder players but never accomplished anything major in big tournaments... Huk and ThorZain did .. (MLG, Dreamhack, TSL) I know lucifron has beaten thorzain in Scan invitational but that's a minor tournament.


Kas has beaten MKP at WCG and gotten 3rd. Kas also got 3rd at another European tourney (IEM or dreamhack, don't remember) by beating Zenio.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#2346
go violet! show the casters who is boss!
lulutheking
Profile Joined April 2012
France106 Posts
May 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#2347
On May 20 2012 08:56 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:52 Zeborg wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:49 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:46 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:43 mememolly wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:42 TheLovingone wrote:
someone can still saying stephano isnt the best out of korea? :s


no 0ne can question that now,

polt stephano rematch would be epic



I mean, you could argue Naniwa. Since he placed top 8 gsl...

I think Stephano is fantastic, but I don't think you can call him the best outside of Korea until we see his GSL results.


Naniwa doesnt even come close to Stephano to tournament wins and top placement in major lans. Its not so long ago Naniwa got knocked out in Dreamhack.

But enough of this best foreigner crap Stephano are a top 3 zerg player in the world. Mr Boss toss himself sayd that


Naniwa has done well at MLG Providence. I'm a Stephano fan but let's be open-minded here.


1 tournament?

Stephano: Multiple Assemply top placement, ESWC, IPL 3, IPL 4, Lonestar clash MLG winter arena 2 + dominating the foreign scene for allmost a year winning every big online tournament with money in. He have also won twice as much price winnings then Naniwa..

Stephano are a born champion

You cant really compare those 2.


Naniwa GSL quarter finals.... pls relax

and stephano is only one person btw
Machu PIchu
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#2348
Symbol 4 Dream 0

Symbol vs Polt/viOlet for tomorrow.

desderak
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
May 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#2349
apollo.. what
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#2350
On May 20 2012 08:57 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:56 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:52 Zeborg wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:49 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:46 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:43 mememolly wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:42 TheLovingone wrote:
someone can still saying stephano isnt the best out of korea? :s


no 0ne can question that now,

polt stephano rematch would be epic



I mean, you could argue Naniwa. Since he placed top 8 gsl...

I think Stephano is fantastic, but I don't think you can call him the best outside of Korea until we see his GSL results.


Naniwa doesnt even come close to Stephano to tournament wins and top placement in major lans. Its not so long ago Naniwa got knocked out in Dreamhack.

But enough of this best foreigner crap Stephano are a top 3 zerg player in the world. Mr Boss toss himself sayd that


Naniwa has done well at MLG Providence. I'm a Stephano fan but let's be open-minded here.


1 tournament?

Stephano: Multiple Assemply top placement, ESWC, IPL 3, IPL 4, Lonestar clash MLG winter arena 2 + dominating the foreign scene for allmost a year winning every big online tournament with money in. He have also won twice as much price winnings then Naniwa..

You cant really compare those 2.

In case you missed my previous post on this.

'Stephano went 0-3 in the first pool at the last Dreamhack Winter which I attended, people have off days

The Nani-Stephano comparison is tough for a variety of reasons. Naniwa places GSL above all else, and indeed doesn't attend as many foreign tournaments to focus on this. At the last Dreamhack the guy admitted he hadn't even played a PvZ in weeks due to focusing so hard on his GSL matches.

Stephano focuses on placing in foreign tournaments, which is where the money is really, and is less concerned about the prestige of the GSL.

Stephano's best matchup is ZvP, which is Naniwa's worst matchup, so even head-to-heads don't really split them particularly. I just don't think Stephano has done anything that puts him on another plane to Nani.'


Not gonna go into a long winded discussion with you until Naniwa wins tournaments he aint even close
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 23:59:18
May 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#2351
On May 20 2012 08:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:49 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:46 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:43 mememolly wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:42 TheLovingone wrote:
someone can still saying stephano isnt the best out of korea? :s


no 0ne can question that now,

polt stephano rematch would be epic



I mean, you could argue Naniwa. Since he placed top 8 gsl...

I think Stephano is fantastic, but I don't think you can call him the best outside of Korea until we see his GSL results.


Naniwa doesnt even come close to Stephano to tournament wins and top placement in major lans. Its not so long ago Naniwa got knocked out in Dreamhack.

But enough of this best foreigner crap Stephano are a top 3 zerg player in the world. Mr Boss toss himself sayd that

Stephano went 0-3 in the first pool at the last Dreamhack Winter which I attended, people have off days

The Nani-Stephano comparison is tough for a variety of reasons. Naniwa places GSL above all else, and indeed doesn't attend as many foreign tournaments to focus on this. At the last Dreamhack the guy admitted he hadn't even played a PvZ in weeks due to focusing so hard on his GSL matches.

Stephano focuses on placing in foreign tournaments, which is where the money is really, and is less concerned about the prestige of the GSL.

Stephano's best matchup is ZvP, which is Naniwa's worst matchup, so even head-to-heads don't really split them particularly. I just don't think Stephano has done anything that puts him on another plane to Nani.


Yeah, Naniwa has a great set of results on his own list. He's taken out top Korean players and he's placed high in the GSL, albeit helped by a decent bracket.

What I want to say though is that Naniwa and Stephano are diametric opposites in personality. Naniwa is introverted and obsessively competitive. Stephano is charismatic and carefree. Naniwa trains extremely hard. Stephano trains the minimum.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
May 19 2012 23:59 GMT
#2352
On May 20 2012 08:49 JacobShock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:46 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:43 mememolly wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:42 TheLovingone wrote:
someone can still saying stephano isnt the best out of korea? :s


no 0ne can question that now,

polt stephano rematch would be epic



I mean, you could argue Naniwa. Since he placed top 8 gsl...

I think Stephano is fantastic, but I don't think you can call him the best outside of Korea until we see his GSL results.


I think if he wins this tournamet you down right can. Some of the best koreans were representet. His winrate, skill, winning purse, and results surpasses any other foreigner by now, yet some people just won't see it for what it is until he competes in GSL.



It will never end, Stephano could win the GSL and his haters would still find something to try and bring him down. Not only is he the best foreigner, he is one of the best players.. period.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 19 2012 23:59 GMT
#2353
Against Helions taking such a far base is just giant balls.
I had a good night of sleep.
loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
May 19 2012 23:59 GMT
#2354
On May 20 2012 08:57 Tobblish wrote:
When did Stephano play vs Polt? 0o
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano/games#tblt-11841-1-default-0-Polt


Assembly, Lone Star Clash. European online tournaments too.
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
lulutheking
Profile Joined April 2012
France106 Posts
May 20 2012 00:00 GMT
#2355
On May 20 2012 08:57 Zeborg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:55 lulutheking wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:52 xrapture wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:48 Azarkon wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:46 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:43 mememolly wrote:
On May 20 2012 08:42 TheLovingone wrote:
someone can still saying stephano isnt the best out of korea? :s


no 0ne can question that now,

polt stephano rematch would be epic



I mean, you could argue Naniwa. Since he placed top 8 gsl...

I think Stephano is fantastic, but I don't think you can call him the best outside of Korea until we see his GSL results.


Naniwa, okay, he's about the same.

But I don't think there's another player that you are able to argue this for.


Yea, Stephano and Naniwa seem to be interchangeable at this point because good arguments can be made for either at this point and we'll never really know until they play eachother in a meaningful game.

Huk,Thorzain are a tier right under them but players like Lucifron and Kas can fight for those spots too.


I don't agree with you, Kas and Lucifron are very good ladder players but never accomplished anything major in big tournaments... Huk and ThorZain did .. (MLG, Dreamhack, TSL) I know lucifron has beaten thorzain in Scan invitational but that's a minor tournament.


Kas has beaten MKP at WCG and gotten 3rd. Kas also got 3rd at another European tourney (IEM or dreamhack, don't remember) by beating Zenio.



Cool Kas has gotten 3rd , wow ... he must be one of the top foreigner...

Kas has beaten MKP ? well goody beat MMA ..... top foreigner as well ?
Machu PIchu
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 20 2012 00:00 GMT
#2356
violet's tvz is weird... i cant describe it..
ashortstory
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil160 Posts
May 20 2012 00:00 GMT
#2357
On May 20 2012 08:59 loginn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:57 Tobblish wrote:
When did Stephano play vs Polt? 0o
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano/games#tblt-11841-1-default-0-Polt


Assembly, Lone Star Clash. European online tournaments too.

Click in the link.

Jesus
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2012 00:00 GMT
#2358
On May 20 2012 08:57 Tobblish wrote:
When did Stephano play vs Polt? 0o
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano/games#tblt-11841-1-default-0-Polt

Stephano 11 - 16 Polt
I wouldn't have guessed that.

Damn!
I had a good night of sleep.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 20 2012 00:01 GMT
#2359
On May 20 2012 08:59 loginn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:57 Tobblish wrote:
When did Stephano play vs Polt? 0o
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano/games#tblt-11841-1-default-0-Polt


Assembly, Lone Star Clash. European online tournaments too.


MLG Winter.
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
May 20 2012 00:01 GMT
#2360
On May 20 2012 08:59 loginn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 08:57 Tobblish wrote:
When did Stephano play vs Polt? 0o
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano/games#tblt-11841-1-default-0-Polt


Assembly, Lone Star Clash. European online tournaments too.


I mean ofc in the Spring Arena 2, it says Polt won 2-0 yet I can't find a result like that in the bracket on MLG.
The curse is real
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