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				On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
 
 
 
 On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago?
 
 IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
 
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				puma is clutch, i think ive seen him win at least 2 ace matches in eg's mcsl
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				IdrA just continue his loss streak
			
		
		
	 
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				I have a feeling no matter how balanced the game was, he would find something to complain about.  He has a horrible attitude and no matter what he does in life, he wont get far acting like he does. 
			
		
		
	 
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				On May 18 2012 02:05 Apollo_Shards wrote:I have a feeling no matter how balanced the game was, he would find something to complain about.  He has a horrible attitude and no matter what he does in life, he wont get far acting like he does.
 
 Holy heck, just saw your signature.. <3
 
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				Doesn't IdrA have like a 30% winrate in 2012 or something...
			
		
		
	 
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				On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   
 That was over half a year ago those things happened.
 
 Edit: Idra's record as of NASL showdown with Morrow
 
 Record: 23 wins - 58 losses (28.40%)
 
 Make that 23-60 now for 27.71%
 
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				On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain.
 He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid.
 That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
 
 On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. 
 Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do.
 IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
 
 What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
 
 
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				On May 18 2012 02:24 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain.  He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players. Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...). What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top. 4-0 MorroW
 2-0 BiGS
 2-0 STX
 2-0 ClouD
 2-1 DarkFoRcE
 2-0 Kas
 2-1 Feast
 2-0 ReaL
 1-0 Sheth
 1-0 ThorZaIN
 1-0 SaSe
 
 ?_?
 
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				On May 18 2012 02:10 FXOBoSs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 02:05 Apollo_Shards wrote:I have a feeling no matter how balanced the game was, he would find something to complain about.  He has a horrible attitude and no matter what he does in life, he wont get far acting like he does.
 Holy heck, just saw your signature.. <3 
 
 Thank you for carrying me in the 3v3s and updating your tumblr often <3
 
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				Didnt have a single clue about his opponent, yet I ve predicted IdrA to lose in one of the first pages.
 Predicting against IdrA might make one rich nowadays on Pinnaclesports.
 
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				On May 18 2012 02:22 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   That was over half a year ago those things happened. Edit: Idra's record as of NASL showdown with Morrow Record: 23 wins - 58 losses (28.40%)  Make that 23-60 now for 27.71% dont forget to his GSL matches.
 
 Record: 24 wins -  64 losses
 
 
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				It's unclear whether IdrA can win a match any more.  
 Good series, solid effort from It's Gosu.
 
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				On May 18 2012 02:29 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 02:24 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain.  He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players. On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...). What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top. 4-0 MorroW 2-0 BiGS 2-0 STX 2-0 ClouD 2-1 DarkFoRcE 2-0 Kas 2-1 Feast 2-0 ReaL 1-0 Sheth 1-0 ThorZaIN 1-0 SaSe ?_? I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top
 He is also:
 2-0 MVP
 2-1 Thorzain
 2-1 Supernova
 2-1 Min
 2-0 Sleep
 3-1 Huk
 2-0 Jinro
 2-1 Inori
 And other wins against lesser players
 
 I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions.
 
 
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				On May 18 2012 03:00 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 02:29 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 02:24 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain.  He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players. On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...). What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top. 4-0 MorroW 2-0 BiGS 2-0 STX 2-0 ClouD 2-1 DarkFoRcE 2-0 Kas 2-1 Feast 2-0 ReaL 1-0 Sheth 1-0 ThorZaIN 1-0 SaSe ?_? I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions. IdrA's record against only foreigner players:
 11 win 21 lose
 
 is this good?
 
 i can list you 20 players and all of them have better record than IdrA.
 
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				On May 18 2012 03:00 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 02:29 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 02:24 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain.  He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players. On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...). What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top. 4-0 MorroW 2-0 BiGS 2-0 STX 2-0 ClouD 2-1 DarkFoRcE 2-0 Kas 2-1 Feast 2-0 ReaL 1-0 Sheth 1-0 ThorZaIN 1-0 SaSe ?_? I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions. 
 Stephano
 Nerchio
 Ret
 DIMAGA
 Sheth
 TLO
 
 Only mentioning a couple of Foreign Zergs with better results than IdrA....there are likely to be more.
 
 
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				On May 18 2012 03:03 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 03:00 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 02:29 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 02:24 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain.  He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players. On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...). What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top. 4-0 MorroW 2-0 BiGS 2-0 STX 2-0 ClouD 2-1 DarkFoRcE 2-0 Kas 2-1 Feast 2-0 ReaL 1-0 Sheth 1-0 ThorZaIN 1-0 SaSe ?_? I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions. IdrA's record against only foreigner players: 11 win 21 lose is this good?  i can list you 20 players and all of them have better record than IdrA. 
 He actually has a positive record against foreigners if you include the most evil genius tournament and the mlg qualifier.
 
 I'm not saying IdrA is still among the top 5 foreigners and i would definitely say he is in a slump. But his records are misleading and people should maybe get off of his back a little.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				On May 18 2012 02:24 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +Because he did beat MVPOn May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? ? And Thorzain.  He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players. Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...). What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top. Ok, those Iron Squid games were OLD.  Almost 2 months old.  And you know what MVP was doing then?  Resting his wrists.  He wasnt even practicing.  Not to mention, they were played cross server.
 
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				On May 18 2012 03:20 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 03:03 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 03:00 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 02:29 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 02:24 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain.  He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players. On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...). What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top. 4-0 MorroW 2-0 BiGS 2-0 STX 2-0 ClouD 2-1 DarkFoRcE 2-0 Kas 2-1 Feast 2-0 ReaL 1-0 Sheth 1-0 ThorZaIN 1-0 SaSe ?_? I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions. IdrA's record against only foreigner players: 11 win 21 lose is this good?  i can list you 20 players and all of them have better record than IdrA. He actually has a positive record against foreigners if you include the most evil genius tournament and the mlg qualifier.I'm not saying IdrA is still among the top 5 foreigners  and i would definitely say he is in a slump. But his records are misleading and people should maybe get off of his back a little. IdrA's record against only foreigner players(including mlg qualifiers/the most evil genius ):
 26 win 27
 
 so? ...
 
 like i said, he isnt even top 20 foreigner.
 
 
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				On May 18 2012 03:20 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 03:03 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 03:00 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 02:29 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 02:24 Diavlo wrote:On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:53 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:50 dragonborn wrote:On May 17 2012 21:48 Catatonic wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote:lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win   ) Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid? did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid? Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"? Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain.  He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players. On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote:idra so bad.,
 Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad   achivements from 6 months ago? IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012. Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...). What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top. 4-0 MorroW 2-0 BiGS 2-0 STX 2-0 ClouD 2-1 DarkFoRcE 2-0 Kas 2-1 Feast 2-0 ReaL 1-0 Sheth 1-0 ThorZaIN 1-0 SaSe ?_? I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions. IdrA's record against only foreigner players: 11 win 21 lose is this good?  i can list you 20 players and all of them have better record than IdrA. He actually has a positive record against foreigners if you include the most evil genius tournament and the mlg qualifier. I'm not saying IdrA is still among the top 5 foreigners and i would definitely say he is in a slump. But his records are misleading and people should maybe get off of his back a little. 
 His records are so bad this year that I see it impossible for it to be misleading.  It is very difficult to fudge those numbers to make it seem like he is doing anywhere near well.
 
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