• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:11
CEST 07:11
KST 14:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202542Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? [G] Progamer Settings Help, I can't log into staredit.net BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 566 users

[SPL] Opening Day - Page 312

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 310 311 312 313 Next
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
May 21 2012 02:49 GMT
#6221
On May 21 2012 11:46 pm_squad wrote:
When is the next game/series for the SPL? Is it today?

Yeah, in 2 hours time. That's pretty quick, considering the long marathon was just yesterday.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 21 2012 02:53 GMT
#6222
so is someone going to make an LR thread for that too?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 21 2012 02:57 GMT
#6223
you should go for it opterown if you're going to watch. I can make the GSL thread later tonight for you if you can't make it to that one.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
May 21 2012 03:03 GMT
#6224
yeah just make an ugly one. who cares
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
May 21 2012 03:31 GMT
#6225
I will be doing an English rebroadcast of today's (and hopefully future) matches on my stream starting at 20:00 CET. Please see this thread for more details.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 21 2012 04:40 GMT
#6226
copy the one in the BW section
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
May 21 2012 04:46 GMT
#6227
damn, i went on a road trip and missed it....

how was it on the SC2 end? was it painful or as expected or exceeded expectations? keep in mind that i mean realistic expectations.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 04:48:04
May 21 2012 04:47 GMT
#6228
On May 21 2012 11:57 Dodgin wrote:
you should go for it opterown if you're going to watch. I can make the GSL thread later tonight for you if you can't make it to that one.


I'm at work right now Work is 9-5 for me, and PL starts at 3pm so I can't LR it at all.
I can start making some premade OPs for the next few days if someone can LR? Am happy to
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 21 2012 04:47 GMT
#6229
Effort vs Jaedong plox

sc2 ZvZ would be awesome to see with the bw pros....I like ZvZ >_>
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 21 2012 04:53 GMT
#6230
On May 21 2012 13:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Effort vs Jaedong plox

sc2 ZvZ would be awesome to see with the bw pros....I like ZvZ >_>

Still unsure how it works, but they both played sc2 last night. So would that limit then to bw tonight? Either way Effort would likely beat him in sc2.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 21 2012 04:58 GMT
#6231
If you guys want to discuss the games just use the Brood War forums LR thread for tonight, should only have to be a one time thing.

Please be respectful to BW veterans and don't bash either game/balance whine about either game
darklight54321
Profile Joined July 2011
United States361 Posts
May 21 2012 05:02 GMT
#6232
On May 21 2012 13:58 Dodgin wrote:
If you guys want to discuss the games just use the Brood War forums LR thread for tonight, should only have to be a one time thing.

Please be respectful to BW veterans and don't bash either game/balance whine about either game


can it work both ways? the opening day thread on that side was pretty.....well it wasn't nice.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 21 2012 05:04 GMT
#6233
On May 21 2012 14:02 darklight54321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 13:58 Dodgin wrote:
If you guys want to discuss the games just use the Brood War forums LR thread for tonight, should only have to be a one time thing.

Please be respectful to BW veterans and don't bash either game/balance whine about either game


can it work both ways? the opening day thread on that side was pretty.....well it wasn't nice.


like I said it's a one time thing, just tolerate it. people are moderated for game bashing on the BW forums too It's just more lenient.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 21 2012 05:04 GMT
#6234
On May 21 2012 14:02 darklight54321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 13:58 Dodgin wrote:
If you guys want to discuss the games just use the Brood War forums LR thread for tonight, should only have to be a one time thing.

Please be respectful to BW veterans and don't bash either game/balance whine about either game


can it work both ways? the opening day thread on that side was pretty.....well it wasn't nice.

yeah it was mostly bw fans ripping on sc2 fans while sc2 fans seemed interested in the BW games as far as i could tell.

im a fan of both so im indifferent
Maruprime.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 21 2012 05:26 GMT
#6235
On May 21 2012 10:02 Ruscour wrote:
Wait, Liquibets for SC2 count the Bo3 instead of the ace? Damn, 3/4 seeming as Lizzy's epicness didn't carry me :-/


Lizzy was far from epic. It was that he played the least sloppy. His storms were on point, but seeing as he had been training SC2 long before the others it was a poor showing. They all really need to train with SC2 teams if we want to see top level play out of them this year.
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 21 2012 05:29 GMT
#6236
For the game this evening I coppied the BW thread format:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339082&currentpage=last
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
May 21 2012 05:30 GMT
#6237
I turned off the stream after Jaedong lost his match.

The best reason why can be explained through this analogy. Proleague SC2 is like Olympic wrestling. Very technical, but not very flashy. The Brood War players obviously have immaculate mechanics and micro. However, the strategies that they're using are pretty basic. The production value was very good, and I enjoyed watching it. In the end though, it didn't capture my attention. GOM and the rest of the world would be like the WWE. Mechanics aren't always top-notch, but the strategies are extremely varied. I want to be able to discover new things I never thought of before. The games are entertaining because of disparities in mechanics and risky strategies. I want to see more things like Symbol mass dropping Protoss in ZvP.

Despite saying all this, I'm still going to tune in to watch Team 8 vs CJ Entus. There is beauty in perfection as well, and watching a game with near perfect mechanics is pretty impressive. With time, I'm sure BW players will show exciting SC2 games as well. BW fans, please don't crucify me over that last statement.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 21 2012 05:31 GMT
#6238
On May 21 2012 14:04 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 14:02 darklight54321 wrote:
On May 21 2012 13:58 Dodgin wrote:
If you guys want to discuss the games just use the Brood War forums LR thread for tonight, should only have to be a one time thing.

Please be respectful to BW veterans and don't bash either game/balance whine about either game


can it work both ways? the opening day thread on that side was pretty.....well it wasn't nice.

yeah it was mostly bw fans ripping on sc2 fans while sc2 fans seemed interested in the BW games as far as i could tell.

im a fan of both so im indifferent


Chat I saw had both disliking each other when i watched chat (mostly for things that had nothing to do with the actual change). As much as BW hates it the league has said BW is going out, so they can stay mad or try to appreciate SC2, but either way BW will be gone in a season or 2,
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
darklight54321
Profile Joined July 2011
United States361 Posts
May 21 2012 05:43 GMT
#6239
On May 21 2012 14:30 Battousai13 wrote:
I turned off the stream after Jaedong lost his match.

The best reason why can be explained through this analogy. Proleague SC2 is like Olympic wrestling. Very technical, but not very flashy. The Brood War players obviously have immaculate mechanics and micro. However, the strategies that they're using are pretty basic. The production value was very good, and I enjoyed watching it. In the end though, it didn't capture my attention. GOM and the rest of the world would be like the WWE. Mechanics aren't always top-notch, but the strategies are extremely varied. I want to be able to discover new things I never thought of before. The games are entertaining because of disparities in mechanics and risky strategies. I want to see more things like Symbol mass dropping Protoss in ZvP.

Despite saying all this, I'm still going to tune in to watch Team 8 vs CJ Entus. There is beauty in perfection as well, and watching a game with near perfect mechanics is pretty impressive. With time, I'm sure BW players will show exciting SC2 games as well. BW fans, please don't crucify me over that last statement.





best way i heard it put was that the micro changed. Instead of most of the micro involving GETTING to the engagements and not letting the ai screw it up. This doesn't follow in sc2 where the micro occurs in different parts of the battles. This was the biggest flaw i saw (well, i agreed with the guy). There was a lot of stuff that just happens from inexperience as well. Once that micro transition occurs though, their play will improve significantly.





On May 21 2012 14:31 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 14:04 Corrosive wrote:
On May 21 2012 14:02 darklight54321 wrote:
On May 21 2012 13:58 Dodgin wrote:
If you guys want to discuss the games just use the Brood War forums LR thread for tonight, should only have to be a one time thing.

Please be respectful to BW veterans and don't bash either game/balance whine about either game


can it work both ways? the opening day thread on that side was pretty.....well it wasn't nice.

yeah it was mostly bw fans ripping on sc2 fans while sc2 fans seemed interested in the BW games as far as i could tell.

im a fan of both so im indifferent


Chat I saw had both disliking each other when i watched chat (mostly for things that had nothing to do with the actual change). As much as BW hates it the league has said BW is going out, so they can stay mad or try to appreciate SC2, but either way BW will be gone in a season or 2,



Chats generally are full of hate, even over the stupidest of crap. It's what happens.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 21 2012 05:45 GMT
#6240
On May 21 2012 14:30 Battousai13 wrote:
I turned off the stream after Jaedong lost his match.

The best reason why can be explained through this analogy. Proleague SC2 is like Olympic wrestling. Very technical, but not very flashy. The Brood War players obviously have immaculate mechanics and micro. However, the strategies that they're using are pretty basic. The production value was very good, and I enjoyed watching it. In the end though, it didn't capture my attention. GOM and the rest of the world would be like the WWE. Mechanics aren't always top-notch, but the strategies are extremely varied. I want to be able to discover new things I never thought of before. The games are entertaining because of disparities in mechanics and risky strategies. I want to see more things like Symbol mass dropping Protoss in ZvP.

Despite saying all this, I'm still going to tune in to watch Team 8 vs CJ Entus. There is beauty in perfection as well, and watching a game with near perfect mechanics is pretty impressive. With time, I'm sure BW players will show exciting SC2 games as well. BW fans, please don't crucify me over that last statement.


Production was excellent as expected, and players macro was great. Micro wasn't that great and they don't know any timings (which is to be expected). Kespa messed it up IMO by not having the top SC2 players come in to play with the BW matches. The play shown by the BW players in SC2 wasn't anything to bring in players to the game. they should have shown the best of both mixed together. The semi pro play the BW players showed in SC2 didn't really represent how competitive the game is.
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
Prev 1 310 311 312 313 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
Elite Rising Star #16 - Day 1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 213
-ZergGirl 166
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 1388
Leta 520
actioN 420
PianO 239
Pusan 29
HiyA 17
GoRush 10
Bale 10
ivOry 3
Dota 2
monkeys_forever864
League of Legends
JimRising 790
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1505
Stewie2K623
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King31
Other Games
summit1g9096
shahzam471
Tasteless121
Maynarde106
NeuroSwarm73
Pyrionflax17
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1529
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH351
• practicex 61
• davetesta28
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1816
• Stunt445
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 49m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5h 49m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
9h 49m
PiGosaur Monday
18h 49m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 5h
Stormgate Nexus
1d 8h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 10h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
RotterdaM Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.