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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 20 2012 12:53 GMT
#5641
it feels really awesome to see a TLMC map on OGN
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 20 2012 12:53 GMT
#5642
I hope Bogus can be the second Terran player to win today, we don't want the BW audience thinking protoss is super imba.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 20 2012 12:53 GMT
#5643
wtf was that gorush? lol
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
May 20 2012 12:54 GMT
#5644
double gas, interesting
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
May 20 2012 12:54 GMT
#5645
Ohgod, double gas.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
May 20 2012 12:54 GMT
#5646
On May 20 2012 21:51 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 21:42 Dodgin wrote:
On May 20 2012 21:40 sixfour wrote:
On May 20 2012 21:40 arQ wrote:
So what kind of level have the SC2 matches been holding?

(Expecting amazingly divergent answers to this but wth I want to hear what u guys think)


effort looked ok but got smashed by motive

other than that, everyone seemed fairly meh. except M18M who is a baller


Reality looked really strong, he also was the only Terran to win a TvP today.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That gif is always fun.

My own thoughts on SC2 play today.

1. Protosses are playing the best all-around. Probably means that protoss transition is the easiest, or that protoss play a style that's most suitable for BW gamers.
2. Basic mechanics, like micro, macro, army control, etc. seems on par or almost on par with top SC2 progamers
3. Decision-making and overall game sense ranges anywhere from good to downright awful
4. Strategies are generally generic and not very awe-inspiring


Protoss did really well because for no one bothered pressuring them. They just built up to a deathball and rolled everyone. Same thing with Flash v Effort, when do you see a TvZ these days with 0 hellion harass?
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
May 20 2012 12:55 GMT
#5647
are they broadcasting 4/3?
they gottta fix that
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annedeman
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
May 20 2012 12:55 GMT
#5648
On May 20 2012 21:48 Micket wrote:
The level of sc2 is pretty impressive imo. These are NOT mid masters players. These people would defeat mid masters players on macro and micro alone, regardless of strategy. But it is true they're decision making is questionable. Macro wise, they are top foreigner level already.

have not seen all the games but,
i've seen some pretty bad macro also by some(the guy jangbi was playing for example) that was pretty terrible being behind 36 to 44 workers(and macroing at this stage of the game is not hard at all) while going for a eco build and not getting damaged is pretty bad even with chronoboosts and it took like 30 sec for him to upgrade his third command center.
also first expos being placed with more then 100 minerals floating, 'facepalm'. thats not quite top foreigner lvl by any stretch of the imagionation

jangbi nailed both his macro and micro though, and could well be at that lvl.
RAIN!!!, MMA!!,Innovation!!,Parting!!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 12:58:45
May 20 2012 12:56 GMT
#5649
On May 20 2012 21:48 Micket wrote:
The level of sc2 is pretty impressive imo. These are NOT mid masters players. These people would defeat mid masters players on macro and micro alone, regardless of strategy. But it is true they're decision making is questionable. Macro wise, they are top foreigner level already.


I wouldn't call it impressive, but I agree with the rest of your post pretty much.

It's obvious that they lack game sense (and knowledge), and their builds weren't super refined (or even refined at all), but it's also pretty obvious that they're very fast, respond quickly, pay attention to detail and small tactical elements of the game, and have strong fundamentals in general. It's also clear that they were always trying to play "correctly" in terms of general RTS gameplay, even if it wasn't always the right thing to do in SC2.

This is definitely NOT the Masters level of play - the overall efficiency of their play might be on Masters level, but Masters / GM amateur players tend to have very good understanding of the game while having terrible mechanics, whereas for the most part Kespa progamers showed the exact opposite.
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
May 20 2012 12:57 GMT
#5650
On May 20 2012 21:55 Cuce wrote:
are they broadcasting 4/3?
they gottta fix that


I think they don't want sc2 looking way better than bw
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 20 2012 12:58 GMT
#5651
On May 20 2012 21:53 Dodgin wrote:
I hope Bogus can be the second Terran player to win today, we don't want the BW audience thinking protoss is super imba.
shush!
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 20 2012 12:58 GMT
#5652
i like this protoss.

solid opening with 1 gate/robo.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#5653
Bogus is so scared, like what.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#5654
strange bo and play from both
yo
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#5655
im new to sc2,

can someone tell me why bogus didnt take his nat earlier
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
annedeman
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#5656
this terran seems to think hes being one base allined or sth
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#5657
On May 20 2012 21:57 Aetherial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 21:55 Cuce wrote:
are they broadcasting 4/3?
they gottta fix that


I think they don't want sc2 looking way better than bw


No, it's because BW is in 4:3 resolution. They do not want to mess with that.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#5658
On May 20 2012 21:54 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 21:51 baubo wrote:
On May 20 2012 21:42 Dodgin wrote:
On May 20 2012 21:40 sixfour wrote:
On May 20 2012 21:40 arQ wrote:
So what kind of level have the SC2 matches been holding?

(Expecting amazingly divergent answers to this but wth I want to hear what u guys think)


effort looked ok but got smashed by motive

other than that, everyone seemed fairly meh. except M18M who is a baller


Reality looked really strong, he also was the only Terran to win a TvP today.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That gif is always fun.

My own thoughts on SC2 play today.

1. Protosses are playing the best all-around. Probably means that protoss transition is the easiest, or that protoss play a style that's most suitable for BW gamers.
2. Basic mechanics, like micro, macro, army control, etc. seems on par or almost on par with top SC2 progamers
3. Decision-making and overall game sense ranges anywhere from good to downright awful
4. Strategies are generally generic and not very awe-inspiring


Protoss did really well because for no one bothered pressuring them. They just built up to a deathball and rolled everyone. Same thing with Flash v Effort, when do you see a TvZ these days with 0 hellion harass?


Hence, why I said they seem to have the easiest transition and/or play a style most suitable for BW protosses.

And there was exactly one TvZ today, which doesn't really say much about how these players would play the MU in general
Meh
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#5659
[13:59:24] drazerk: god these games
[13:59:30] drazerk: its like watching really really good bronze players
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ThaSlayer
Profile Joined March 2011
707 Posts
May 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#5660
SPL Terrans seem to be going maruaderless 1 rax FE (only at 2 medivacs pop out) in T v P. Do they know something we dont? They seem to favour marine heavy medivac pressure vs protoss
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