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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 16:56:34
May 03 2012 16:43 GMT
#2041
I missed the games. Could someone recap them (Or link me to a post that recaps them)? Also how long were the games? Squirtle vs Taeja I figured would be close, but I didn't think Hero would 3-0 SuperNova.






I'm so glad Hero and Squirtle won. I was preparing for another round of GomTvT in the finals. As good as Parting PvT is and despite MVP's wrist and TvP generally being his worst matchup, I still wouldn't count MVP out. NEVER count MVP out.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
May 03 2012 16:46 GMT
#2042
On May 03 2012 23:09 sc2holar wrote:
Seriously how can anyone justify an instant, undodgeable AoE skill that removes half of every protoss units hp and all energy.

in that case i want storm to do instant damage, and drain 80 energy aswell.



EMP doesn't kill or put your units into red. You also can't spam EMP your opponents to death.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 03 2012 16:56 GMT
#2043
On May 04 2012 01:43 Havik_ wrote:
I missed the games. Could someone recap them (Or link me to a post that recaps them)? Also how long were the games? Squirtle vs Taeja I figured would be close, but I didn't think Hero would 3-0 SuperNova.

You know there are links to all the LR's from the OP, right?
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 17:00:25
May 03 2012 16:58 GMT
#2044
On May 03 2012 23:24 power-overwhelming wrote:
I just don't get the whine balance. Why can't people realize that the only reason P is strong is because MC is not the only good Protoss now and that all these Terrans have only been fighting other Terrans and Zergs the past 6 seasons.

It's really ironic how when Terrans were dominating since the start of SC2 it was because "best players play Terran" but in this one season Protoss does well it's automatically imbalance lol.

All the Protoss who advanced are godly at PvTs.. even Naniwa. If MVP did not cheese him out Naniwa would've advanced and would be a RO4 protoss. Similar to the Super Tournament when it was all Terrans.


You must have missed all the Terran nerfs.
Bunkers had a small nerf.
Barracks building time was nerfed.
EMP was nerfed.
Reapers were nerfed.
Stimpack was nerfed.
BFH were nerfed.
Thors were nerfed.

Only nerf I can think of for Protoss is their storm.
They were buffed for immortals, forge upgrades, and archons (splash, or was that in the beta? I don't remember).

Now you wonder why Terran was dominate in the start of SC2, as well as having maps favorable to T back in the day for the most part? And also, it is true there are more BW pros playing Terran than the other races, take it for what you will however.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8635 Posts
May 03 2012 16:59 GMT
#2045
On May 04 2012 01:35 noddy wrote:
Only person left that has any respectable qualities of a champion is MVP. The rest feel like one trick ponies who will likely fall early every GSL. Really hope MVP wins :/


Some people(are terran Q_Q 4life)... :D

PvP Finals it is - Resistance is futile!
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 03 2012 16:59 GMT
#2046
On May 04 2012 01:35 noddy wrote:
Only person left that has any respectable qualities of a champion is MVP. The rest feel like one trick ponies who will likely fall early every GSL. Really hope MVP wins :/

No bias here at all, no no.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about btw >.>
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
May 03 2012 17:06 GMT
#2047
On May 03 2012 21:27 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 21:25 DiViD wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:37 xN.07)MaK wrote:
MVP > Naniwa: Bit-by-bit roflstomp
Parting > Oz: Roflstomp
Hero > Supernova: Roflstomp
Squirtle > Taeja: Roflstomp


Can this possibly be the worst RO8 ever?


Not for my Liquidbets XD



A swede liquibetting vs Nani whadafuck?


I did the same. It's strategy :D I thought MVP was gonna win, so I voted for him. And if he doesn't, I'm wouldn't be the slightest upset, cause then Naniwa would've gone through :D
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 03 2012 17:07 GMT
#2048
On May 04 2012 01:39 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 20:33 Talin wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:30 Arceus wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Talin wrote:
Can't wait for HerO to destroy this guy.

ppl claim that Squirtle got a 100% PvP. And hes really that good in mirror


And none of the Ps he beat were HerO (since like a year ago). Hero's fundamentals are way better, as long as he doesn't get mindfucked by builds it won't even be close. Squirtle can't even land a freaking forcefield. -_-


I disagree. Squirtle has always looked stronger to me than Hero does.


Ignore him, he has no idea and is the most biased TL fanboy around.

There's basically nothing to chose between any Code S Protoss's in PvP, they're all more than capable of beating each other.
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
May 03 2012 17:07 GMT
#2049
Liquid'Hero for CHAMP!
Godly PvZ, awesome PvP with decisions on the fly and kinda ok PvT.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
May 03 2012 17:10 GMT
#2050
Protoss guaranteed in the finals? OKAY
bayside
Profile Joined July 2011
United States82 Posts
May 03 2012 17:27 GMT
#2051

On May 04 2012 01:35 noddy wrote:
Only person left that has any respectable qualities of a champion is MVP. The rest feel like one trick ponies who will likely fall early every GSL. Really hope MVP wins :/


How so? Parting has the best PvT in the world and is not likely to fail anytime soon, he has been in code s since his first code s debut. Squirtle may be a one trick pony, but maybe all of the time he spends practicing finally allowed him to hit a hot streak, so long as he does not get lazy like DRG and previous champs he will be in code s for awhile. Hero has been very consistant over the past few months.

If you are curious because you do not follow the scene as well as you would like to, you can always read through Liquipedia, there is information on every major tournament.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
May 03 2012 17:30 GMT
#2052
totally didn't expect that... yay PvP finals
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Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
May 03 2012 17:32 GMT
#2053
On May 04 2012 01:58 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 23:24 power-overwhelming wrote:
I just don't get the whine balance. Why can't people realize that the only reason P is strong is because MC is not the only good Protoss now and that all these Terrans have only been fighting other Terrans and Zergs the past 6 seasons.

It's really ironic how when Terrans were dominating since the start of SC2 it was because "best players play Terran" but in this one season Protoss does well it's automatically imbalance lol.

All the Protoss who advanced are godly at PvTs.. even Naniwa. If MVP did not cheese him out Naniwa would've advanced and would be a RO4 protoss. Similar to the Super Tournament when it was all Terrans.


You must have missed all the Terran nerfs.
Bunkers had a small nerf.
Barracks building time was nerfed.
EMP was nerfed.
Reapers were nerfed.
Stimpack was nerfed.
BFH were nerfed.
Thors were nerfed.

Only nerf I can think of for Protoss is their storm.
They were buffed for immortals, forge upgrades, and archons (splash, or was that in the beta? I don't remember).

Now you wonder why Terran was dominate in the start of SC2, as well as having maps favorable to T back in the day for the most part? And also, it is true there are more BW pros playing Terran than the other races, take it for what you will however.


they nerfed warpgate twice, but that's neither here nor there
Rorix
Profile Joined December 2010
357 Posts
May 03 2012 17:34 GMT
#2054
1T, 3P semis...wow. MVP still climbing back to his (Iron) throne. /me hoping for a TvP finals :-S
roflstomper
cmcaneff5502
Profile Joined February 2012
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 17:36:34
May 03 2012 17:35 GMT
#2055
On May 03 2012 23:03 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 22:38 Douillos wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:32 sc2holar wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:29 Douillos wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:27 sc2holar wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:22 Douillos wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:13 Doublemint wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:07 LeLfe wrote:
On May 03 2012 21:59 0ne wrote:
Terran does well every season " hey terran players are just better "

Protoss does well one season " IMBALANCE "

Stay classy terrans :p


pretty funny considering how Zerg and Toss have been crying for months


What´s also "funny", is that even Blizzard found it "funny" and tweaked the balance a bit - looks like the whining was not all that uncalled for.




A bit?? Check how many nerfs terran has had... And im an ex Zerg who actually found it was too much even back then.

And every single nerf was deserved. im an ex terran and even i found the terran dominance a little too much back then (or more like for the entire lifespan of SC2)


Meh. Everything was deserved except the ghost nerfs. EMP radius + leaving enough energy for a storm is just stupid

EMP is still strong. having a skill that takes out all sheilds and ALL energy (basicly cutting away half of every protoss units HP and making casters completley useless) in a huge area is just stupid.


It doesnt take out all shields and energy. Thats the problem!

EDIT: ok re-read... Well just compare to storm and feeback...

Storm is an AoE DoT and it doesnt remove energy... Feedback is a singel target spell. EMP was way to powerful pre-nerf, it basicly made everything struck in its AoE useless. Give me a solid argument for why it should take away all sheilds and all energy. thats potentially like 200 instant damage against units with high sheild HP. compared to Storm that does 80 damage over time.

You can dodge a storm and negate most of the damage. EMP is instant, wich means that once you where hit (and there was no way for slow units like templars to dodge it either) you were screwed.


You do realize that EMP doesn't take away the full shield or full energy right? I don't understand what you're saying with this. The very most EMP can do is (approximately--obviously depends on the unit) half of the total health. A few storms can 100% kill an entire bio army without any other units
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
May 03 2012 17:37 GMT
#2056
On May 04 2012 02:35 cmcaneff5502 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 23:03 sc2holar wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:38 Douillos wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:32 sc2holar wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:29 Douillos wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:27 sc2holar wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:22 Douillos wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:13 Doublemint wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:07 LeLfe wrote:
On May 03 2012 21:59 0ne wrote:
Terran does well every season " hey terran players are just better "

Protoss does well one season " IMBALANCE "

Stay classy terrans :p


pretty funny considering how Zerg and Toss have been crying for months


What´s also "funny", is that even Blizzard found it "funny" and tweaked the balance a bit - looks like the whining was not all that uncalled for.




A bit?? Check how many nerfs terran has had... And im an ex Zerg who actually found it was too much even back then.

And every single nerf was deserved. im an ex terran and even i found the terran dominance a little too much back then (or more like for the entire lifespan of SC2)


Meh. Everything was deserved except the ghost nerfs. EMP radius + leaving enough energy for a storm is just stupid

EMP is still strong. having a skill that takes out all sheilds and ALL energy (basicly cutting away half of every protoss units HP and making casters completley useless) in a huge area is just stupid.


It doesnt take out all shields and energy. Thats the problem!

EDIT: ok re-read... Well just compare to storm and feeback...

Storm is an AoE DoT and it doesnt remove energy... Feedback is a singel target spell. EMP was way to powerful pre-nerf, it basicly made everything struck in its AoE useless. Give me a solid argument for why it should take away all sheilds and all energy. thats potentially like 200 instant damage against units with high sheild HP. compared to Storm that does 80 damage over time.

You can dodge a storm and negate most of the damage. EMP is instant, wich means that once you where hit (and there was no way for slow units like templars to dodge it either) you were screwed.


You do realize that EMP doesn't take away the full shield or full energy right? I don't understand what you're saying with this.

it used to. some guy was arguing that the EMP nerfs where unjustified.
you no take candle
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
May 03 2012 17:46 GMT
#2057
They better have some live Kpop at the finals because I'm not watching a BO7 PvP otherwise.
Everyday Girl's Day~!
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
May 03 2012 17:48 GMT
#2058
On May 04 2012 01:23 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:07 Severedevil wrote:
On May 04 2012 00:06 Lennient wrote:
Last season, 2 Protoss in Ro4, and this season, 3 Protoss in Ro4, If this trend keeps going, next season there will be a total domination of Protoss and the winner will be whoever has the best PvP.


And just imagine the season after that !!

5 protoss in the round of 4? I GIVE UP! SO IMBA!


Oh god... 10 years from now the Ro4 will be a 32 man double elimination protoss only sub tourney of the gsl
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 03 2012 17:53 GMT
#2059
On May 04 2012 02:46 Kergy wrote:
They better have some live Kpop at the finals because I'm not watching a BO7 PvP otherwise.

Wtb 1-3 performances between each game
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
May 03 2012 17:55 GMT
#2060
On May 04 2012 02:53 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 02:46 Kergy wrote:
They better have some live Kpop at the finals because I'm not watching a BO7 PvP otherwise.

Wtb 1-3 performances between each game


Will still be the shortest finals

I'm damn pumped for a pvp! One of my face matches to watch!
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
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