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[Code S] "The Chosen 8" 2012 GSL Season 2 Day 2 - Page 102

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snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
May 03 2012 15:05 GMT
#2021
so fitting that MVP is the last terran
Lennient
Profile Joined January 2012
497 Posts
May 03 2012 15:06 GMT
#2022
Last season, 2 Protoss in Ro4, and this season, 3 Protoss in Ro4, If this trend keeps going, next season there will be a total domination of Protoss and the winner will be whoever has the best PvP.

Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
May 03 2012 15:07 GMT
#2023
On May 04 2012 00:06 Lennient wrote:
Last season, 2 Protoss in Ro4, and this season, 3 Protoss in Ro4, If this trend keeps going, next season there will be a total domination of Protoss and the winner will be whoever has the best PvP.


And just imagine the season after that !!
My strategy is to fork people.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
May 03 2012 15:11 GMT
#2024
Actually, I think TvP has always been P favor late game. But Terrans was so much stronger early game that not many games got to that point. Doesn't matter that Protoss win 100% late game if only 10% of the game gets to that point. With the map changes (longer maps, smaller ramps), Protoss can defend much better early game so we are beginning to see the late game much more. I would like to see a less dependency on force fields which means a slightly stronger gateway army and thus a slight nerd to Protoss AoE. But again, it is tough to balance because just a slight change can have big ramifications.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
May 03 2012 15:34 GMT
#2025
On May 04 2012 00:06 Lennient wrote:
Last season, 2 Protoss in Ro4, and this season, 3 Protoss in Ro4, If this trend keeps going, next season there will be a total domination of Protoss and the winner will be whoever has the best PvP.


1 protoss in ro4 last season
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
May 03 2012 15:44 GMT
#2026
On May 04 2012 00:05 snafoo wrote:
so fitting that MVP is the last terran

MVP = Most Valiant Protoss
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27460 Posts
May 03 2012 15:44 GMT
#2027
Sigh, some great posts in here, apparently Oz is mediocre and only got this far due to his PvP... despite it being PvP that sent him out, and he's done better in PvT this season (with some really interesting builds)

That said, disappointing matches all round, but good to see Hero do well. Nice to see his obvious latent skill bringing home some results. I'm worried for him against Squirtle though, his good mechanics and multitasking aren't really going to give him much of an advantage in that matchup vs Squirtle's undeniable solid PvP
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 15:50:13
May 03 2012 15:45 GMT
#2028
On May 04 2012 00:11 vthree wrote:
Actually, I think TvP has always been P favor late game. But Terrans was so much stronger early game that not many games got to that point. Doesn't matter that Protoss win 100% late game if only 10% of the game gets to that point. With the map changes (longer maps, smaller ramps), Protoss can defend much better early game so we are beginning to see the late game much more. I would like to see a less dependency on force fields which means a slightly stronger gateway army and thus a slight nerd to Protoss AoE. But again, it is tough to balance because just a slight change can have big ramifications.

The issue with buffing gateway units is warpgates; if you buff them, it'll make gateway rushes so stupidly OP due to the loss of defender's advantage in XvP since units can warp in across the map.

I agree with your core point though. I think the maps have a huge effect on the race composition of the GSL finals this time around, and I think that the Terrans really dropped the ball by falling out earlier stages (esp. MKP, who could've rocked this season if he'd gotten out of his group). Basically, if you pit up MKP/Polt/Jjakji/TheStC (just throwing out some names) against Parting/Squirtle/MC/Oz, I don't think I'd be able to call an outcome.

I think Squirtle looks like the scariest Protoss of this season overall, even though I like Parting's and HerO's styles better. Parting is amazing at PvT and has shown some great PvP this season, and I won't call Parting vs. Squirtle that easily since teamkills tend to be weird, and Squirtle's PvZ >>> Parting's imo. I'm not sure what to think of HerO; sometimes he looks amazing, other times he looks like a scrub. Oz is interesting but seems to me to rely too much on quirky builds (not to be confused with gimmicky, just ... round-about).
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
May 03 2012 15:49 GMT
#2029
What!? 3-0, 3-0 for both Protoss players!? :O

Maybe it was for the better that i missed it xD.

Gogo Hero!! Too bad Taeja is out though =/
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Hurricaned
Profile Joined October 2011
France126 Posts
May 03 2012 16:07 GMT
#2030
Supernova got 3-0 -_-
Cmon PvP finals...
Ordien
Profile Joined January 2012
Denmark34 Posts
May 03 2012 16:09 GMT
#2031
On May 04 2012 01:07 Hurricaned wrote:
Supernova got 3-0 -_-
Cmon PvP finals...

Ye this is actually gonna be a PvP final. I dont see MVP take out PartinG
"The only real valuable thing is intuition." - Albert Einstein
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 16:16:30
May 03 2012 16:16 GMT
#2032
m&m vs protoss death ball with lasers. very cool
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
May 03 2012 16:18 GMT
#2033
Hm, thought Taeja would at least put up a fight.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 16:37:22
May 03 2012 16:23 GMT
#2034
On May 04 2012 00:07 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:06 Lennient wrote:
Last season, 2 Protoss in Ro4, and this season, 3 Protoss in Ro4, If this trend keeps going, next season there will be a total domination of Protoss and the winner will be whoever has the best PvP.


And just imagine the season after that !!

by then Z will be back in the ro8 and will crush any P to even it out ;P

honestly i find myself rooting for MVP its like hes James Braddock in the movie "Cinderella Man". This is a rarity as i generally ALWAYS root for anything but the T lol
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
May 03 2012 16:23 GMT
#2035
On May 04 2012 00:07 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:06 Lennient wrote:
Last season, 2 Protoss in Ro4, and this season, 3 Protoss in Ro4, If this trend keeps going, next season there will be a total domination of Protoss and the winner will be whoever has the best PvP.


And just imagine the season after that !!

5 protoss in the round of 4? I GIVE UP! SO IMBA!
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
May 03 2012 16:35 GMT
#2036
Only person left that has any respectable qualities of a champion is MVP. The rest feel like one trick ponies who will likely fall early every GSL. Really hope MVP wins :/
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 03 2012 16:36 GMT
#2037
On May 04 2012 01:35 noddy wrote:
Only person left that has any respectable qualities of a champion is MVP. The rest feel like one trick ponies who will likely fall early every GSL. Really hope MVP wins :/

really? parting seems like a two trick pony at the least.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
May 03 2012 16:38 GMT
#2038
On May 04 2012 01:35 noddy wrote:
Only person left that has any respectable qualities of a champion is MVP. The rest feel like one trick ponies who will likely fall early every GSL. Really hope MVP wins :/


You call Parting, Squirtle, and Hero one trick ponies...?
Okay...
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
May 03 2012 16:39 GMT
#2039
On May 03 2012 20:33 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 20:30 Arceus wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Talin wrote:
Can't wait for HerO to destroy this guy.

ppl claim that Squirtle got a 100% PvP. And hes really that good in mirror


And none of the Ps he beat were HerO (since like a year ago). Hero's fundamentals are way better, as long as he doesn't get mindfucked by builds it won't even be close. Squirtle can't even land a freaking forcefield. -_-


I disagree. Squirtle has always looked stronger to me than Hero does.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27460 Posts
May 03 2012 16:42 GMT
#2040
On May 04 2012 01:39 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 20:33 Talin wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:30 Arceus wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Talin wrote:
Can't wait for HerO to destroy this guy.

ppl claim that Squirtle got a 100% PvP. And hes really that good in mirror


And none of the Ps he beat were HerO (since like a year ago). Hero's fundamentals are way better, as long as he doesn't get mindfucked by builds it won't even be close. Squirtle can't even land a freaking forcefield. -_-


I disagree. Squirtle has always looked stronger to me than Hero does.

They're both good at what they do, Hero reminds me of Oz in the way he plays, with a lot of gateway pressure and whatnot which, if it fails can make you look like an idiot. Squirtle from what I've seen hits really solid timings but spreads his stuff out a bit less.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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