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[Code S] "The Chosen 8" 2012 GSL Season 2 Day 1 - Page 199

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hanlonbro
Profile Joined May 2012
108 Posts
May 02 2012 17:43 GMT
#3961
Mvp vs parting should be the finals. But if Parting bets Mvp I hope that he plays against Liquid Hero in the finals
lavos
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway7 Posts
May 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#3962
As long as there are big money on the line, people are going to do whatever it takes to win, and MPV prepared theese cheesy or all in strategies against Naniwa because he knew they probably would be good against Nanis play style.
So he just did whas should be expected, its not the players fault all inns and cheeses are as powerful as they are.

Anyways was hoping for Nani to win because foreigner, but the best prepared player won today.

castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
May 02 2012 17:51 GMT
#3963
Go Mvp! Teach those greedy tosses a lesson!

In the end, I hope we get an epic TvP finals. Parting v Taeja or Mvp v Squirtle/Hero would be awesome.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 02 2012 17:52 GMT
#3964
They are only powerful against greedy play. Safe play is standard for a reason.
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Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
May 02 2012 17:57 GMT
#3965
Oddly anticlimactic ending to that hype.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 02 2012 17:57 GMT
#3966
MVP's facial expression after the second game is pure gold. (Nani's too.)
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 17:59:52
May 02 2012 17:59 GMT
#3967
When you solve differential equations, the complete solution is a composite of the general AND particular solution.

Naniwa only prepared to solve the particular solution, where was the training to make sure that his builds had sufficient safeguards/responses to various timings?

This is a failure of training and training mindset.
tpfkan
Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States535 Posts
May 02 2012 18:06 GMT
#3968
I agree with the people who say MVP deserves the win. Last time I checked you advance in tournaments by winning, not by how much "honor" you play with.
Live it up.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
May 02 2012 18:08 GMT
#3969
People shouldnt hate on MVP for cheesing. He most likely studied Naniwa's play and saw that Nani plays greedy and planned out accordingly.
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
May 02 2012 18:12 GMT
#3970
On May 03 2012 00:52 CV-Mackh wrote:
I think that you guys don't get the point,

Cheesing is disgraceful and should be avoided at this lvl of play, sure Nani should have countered them and stuff, but I feel like the general notion of cheese is disrespectful for your opponent, 2 ways you can interpret it IMO :

- I suck too much to take Nani late game.
- Everybody hates Nani in Korea, i'll just Humiliate the guy.

So yeah this is my own point of view regarding cheese, I am not appealing any one to support me or to comment this, but my FEELING today, is that MVP does not deserve any respect from me anymore.

And I am not swedish, neither am I a protoss player, nor a fanboy.

Just a regular fan of the GSL who'd like to see better games and more respect than a straight up 3 cheeses in a row.

So yeah I spit on MVP and hope he will get his butt kicked by partying


worst post..ever? Go play Civilization if you want a timeout in your game. Real men play Starcraft because it pure aggression from the very first minute.
Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
May 02 2012 18:17 GMT
#3971
On May 03 2012 02:42 Xercen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 00:52 CV-Mackh wrote:
I think that you guys don't get the point,

Cheesing is disgraceful and should be avoided at this lvl of play, sure Nani should have countered them and stuff, but I feel like the general notion of cheese is disrespectful for your opponent, 2 ways you can interpret it IMO :

- I suck too much to take Nani late game.
- Everybody hates Nani in Korea, i'll just Humiliate the guy.

So yeah this is my own point of view regarding cheese, I am not appealing any one to support me or to comment this, but my FEELING today, is that MVP does not deserve any respect from me anymore.

And I am not swedish, neither am I a protoss player, nor a fanboy.

Just a regular fan of the GSL who'd like to see better games and more respect than a straight up 3 cheeses in a row.

So yeah I spit on MVP and hope he will get his butt kicked by partying



why not petition gsl to have a 20 min no rush rul then?


exactly what I was thinking, 20 mins probably not enough, more like NR30 or NR40 for him
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
May 02 2012 18:21 GMT
#3972
On May 02 2012 19:14 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
*Sigh*. MVP won the series, but did not prove he was the better player. Yes, we get it, you play to win - but that is exactly what Rain did, and you clearly see what public opinion thought of Rain.

Don't be disheartened Naniwa, you know you're the better player and can get those wins!


This is a joke. Mvp is more accomplished than any player on the planet. It was extremely clear from the player cam that even after one game his wrists were causing him pain.

He would still destroy anyone on the planet except maybe DRG or Parting in late game macro, he is the best player in the world.
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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 18:34:51
May 02 2012 18:34 GMT
#3973
I dont know if you can argue that a player dont deserve to win when he wins.... but if there ever was a case this one would be pretty close. I mean there is close to no skill in winning with those builds, anyone could have pulled those builds off.

I mean Naniwa should expect it and be able to counter it but yeah... Naniwa lost more then MVP won. Which the Parting MVP match will show. Cause cheesing will obviously not be an option then.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 02 2012 18:36 GMT
#3974
On May 03 2012 03:21 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:14 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
*Sigh*. MVP won the series, but did not prove he was the better player. Yes, we get it, you play to win - but that is exactly what Rain did, and you clearly see what public opinion thought of Rain.

Don't be disheartened Naniwa, you know you're the better player and can get those wins!


This is a joke. Mvp is more accomplished than any player on the planet. It was extremely clear from the player cam that even after one game his wrists were causing him pain.

He would still destroy anyone on the planet except maybe DRG or Parting in late game macro, he is the best player in the world.

Why didn't he showed awesome games then ? Why did he prefer to do 2 cheesy build ? The MVP I remember gave me the chills, this one made me a sad panda
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
May 02 2012 18:37 GMT
#3975
GO MVP <3
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 02 2012 18:41 GMT
#3976
On May 03 2012 03:36 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 03:21 Figgy wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:14 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
*Sigh*. MVP won the series, but did not prove he was the better player. Yes, we get it, you play to win - but that is exactly what Rain did, and you clearly see what public opinion thought of Rain.

Don't be disheartened Naniwa, you know you're the better player and can get those wins!


This is a joke. Mvp is more accomplished than any player on the planet. It was extremely clear from the player cam that even after one game his wrists were causing him pain.

He would still destroy anyone on the planet except maybe DRG or Parting in late game macro, he is the best player in the world.

Why didn't he showed awesome games then ? Why did he prefer to do 2 cheesy build ? The MVP I remember gave me the chills, this one made me a sad panda


You don't play awesome games against a protoss who is greedy. You punish him early or you lose.
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Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
May 02 2012 18:43 GMT
#3977
On May 03 2012 03:36 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 03:21 Figgy wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:14 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
*Sigh*. MVP won the series, but did not prove he was the better player. Yes, we get it, you play to win - but that is exactly what Rain did, and you clearly see what public opinion thought of Rain.

Don't be disheartened Naniwa, you know you're the better player and can get those wins!


This is a joke. Mvp is more accomplished than any player on the planet. It was extremely clear from the player cam that even after one game his wrists were causing him pain.

He would still destroy anyone on the planet except maybe DRG or Parting in late game macro, he is the best player in the world.

Why didn't he showed awesome games then ? Why did he prefer to do 2 cheesy build ? The MVP I remember gave me the chills, this one made me a sad panda

When the opponent goes for eco cheese and you know that he always goes for that, why shouldn't you cheese?
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
May 02 2012 18:44 GMT
#3978
On May 03 2012 03:34 4ZakeN87 wrote:
I dont know if you can argue that a player dont deserve to win when he wins.... but if there ever was a case this one would be pretty close. I mean there is close to no skill in winning with those builds, anyone could have pulled those builds off.

I mean Naniwa should expect it and be able to counter it but yeah... Naniwa lost more then MVP won. Which the Parting MVP match will show. Cause cheesing will obviously not be an option then.

So you agree that Naniwa lost it himself? Good good, this means that even tho MVP didn't prove that he is better than Naniwa, Naniwa proved that he is worst than MVP in the series.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 02 2012 18:47 GMT
#3979
On May 03 2012 03:44 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 03:34 4ZakeN87 wrote:
I dont know if you can argue that a player dont deserve to win when he wins.... but if there ever was a case this one would be pretty close. I mean there is close to no skill in winning with those builds, anyone could have pulled those builds off.

I mean Naniwa should expect it and be able to counter it but yeah... Naniwa lost more then MVP won. Which the Parting MVP match will show. Cause cheesing will obviously not be an option then.

So you agree that Naniwa lost it himself? Good good, this means that even tho MVP didn't prove that he is better than Naniwa, Naniwa proved that he is worst than MVP in the series.


Lol, yeah I always wonder why people say that as if it makes a difference.
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Dissonance23
Profile Joined September 2010
United States259 Posts
May 02 2012 18:59 GMT
#3980
On May 03 2012 03:36 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 03:21 Figgy wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:14 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
*Sigh*. MVP won the series, but did not prove he was the better player. Yes, we get it, you play to win - but that is exactly what Rain did, and you clearly see what public opinion thought of Rain.

Don't be disheartened Naniwa, you know you're the better player and can get those wins!


This is a joke. Mvp is more accomplished than any player on the planet. It was extremely clear from the player cam that even after one game his wrists were causing him pain.

He would still destroy anyone on the planet except maybe DRG or Parting in late game macro, he is the best player in the world.

Why didn't he showed awesome games then ? Why did he prefer to do 2 cheesy build ? The MVP I remember gave me the chills, this one made me a sad panda


He can barely play with the ways his wrists are, he wants to win as fast as possible in order to put the least amount of strain on them.
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