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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 22 2012 15:56 GMT
#2301
On April 23 2012 00:52 Gandhi wrote:
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On April 23 2012 00:52 ZenithM wrote:
That BL cheese was underestimating Genius a bit :/


How is BL ever a cheese.

The same way 2 base battlecruiser and 1 base mothership is a cheese, imo.
That was really some hope based play by Ret, "let's build 100 drones, rush to Broodlords and see if Protoss can break the spine crawler infestor turtle lolololol".
Well, Genius just went around it and that was it.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 15:57:09
April 22 2012 15:56 GMT
#2302
On April 23 2012 00:52 Gandhi wrote:
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On April 23 2012 00:52 ZenithM wrote:
That BL cheese was underestimating Genius a bit :/


How is BL ever a cheese.

LOL yeah that's another first. Never heard that one before. BL cheese.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 22 2012 15:56 GMT
#2303
On April 23 2012 00:55 xrapture wrote:
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On April 23 2012 00:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
We need Stephano as foreigner coach really this was horrible Ret


for what? To tell Ret to 12 min roach all in every game and fail vs any other race?

no ty

ret > stephano


No to tell him how to play l8tgame vs Protoss if you didnt notise Ret tryed to copy what Stephano does but failed horrible.

He didnt make enough spines and he had to little infestors and his control and decision making was horrible.

You really dont know much about Stephano ZvP play do you?
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
April 22 2012 15:56 GMT
#2304
Ret did not capitalize on the lead he gained in any way. He had no vision of Genius army and walked into a concave with a few infestors some broods and corrupters, while genius had stalkers and collosus. Also he put literally NO pressure on genius.

Sadly he has noone to blame but himself.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3835 Posts
April 22 2012 15:56 GMT
#2305
On April 23 2012 00:51 flowSthead wrote:
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On April 23 2012 00:48 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:40 Xarles wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:35 poorcloud wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:31 Dodgin wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:31 HaXeR wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:29 TheDougler wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:25 trinxified wrote:
Taeja isn't Top 5 Terran, yet alone Top 10 to be honest.

1. MarineKing
2. MMA
3. Mvp
4. Jjakji
5. Polt
6. aLive
7. Supernova
8. Ganzi
9. Bomber
10. GhostKing


Taeja is easily better than ghostking who even when he was byun never put up significant results, and bomber hasn't been relevant for months.

Taeja is good, but i feel he is overhyped now, because he joined Liquid. He need some result in big tournaments.


Is eliminating two GSL champions in a row in Code S not big tournament results?


Yes but he needs to win the whole thing + have a few other championships to be called the best or be ranked top tier. Right now he is still very good but not good enough to be called the very top tier of korean terrans.

If he loses in the next round, what is there to differentiate him from someone like virus, who even beat Nestea and MC in previous rounds? Yet, virus is not even in most peoples top 10 list.

I wouldn't even put Virus in a Top 20 Terran list tbh.
Nevertheless, both Taeja and GhostKing needs to show good performance over a longer duration.
GhostKing had been gone for several months, I'm pretty sure one's skill level can/will change over such time. o.O
Plenty of people have done well in one GSL only to drop off the radar afterwards.


People put too much legitimacy in Code S. Polt has dropped into A 48 twice in a row now. Does that make him bad? TaeJa needed a seed to get into Code A. Does that make him bad? Players like Life have a lot of trouble getting through the Code A qualifiers. Does that make them bad?


What are you talking about? Taeja made it into Code A from the preliminaries in August. He hasn't left GSL Code A or S since then.


*facepalm I meant DRG and his code S seed. There's plenty of examples :p
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
April 22 2012 15:57 GMT
#2306
sucks for Ret to be on the Code S Korean side of the bracket...he can go much further if he's on the lower end against Europeans and Monster.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
April 22 2012 15:57 GMT
#2307
On April 23 2012 00:56 x2mirko wrote:
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On Apr 22 2012 17:52<span style='color:#d20000'> (2 min)</span> Gandhi wrote:
On Apr 22 2012 17:52<span style='color:#d20000'> (2 min)</span> ZenithM wrote:
That BL cheese was underestimating Genius a bit :/


How is BL ever a cheese.


Well, he essentially didn't build anything but drones and tech until minute 13. I'd say that can easily be considered a cheese. While most cheeses sacrifice everything for army, this sacrificed everything for tech. If genius attacked earlier, ret would have been in lots of trouble


He had map control and had roach tech ready incase he needed to make units.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 22 2012 15:57 GMT
#2308
On April 23 2012 00:56 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:52 Gandhi wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:52 ZenithM wrote:
That BL cheese was underestimating Genius a bit :/


How is BL ever a cheese.

The same way 2 base battlecruiser and 1 base mothership is a cheese, imo.
That was really some hope based play by Ret, "let's build 100 drones, rush to Broodlords and see if Protoss can break the spine crawler infestor turtle lolololol".
Well, Genius just went around it and that was it.

That's just stupid.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 22 2012 15:57 GMT
#2309
On April 23 2012 00:56 x2mirko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On Apr 22 2012 17:52<span style='color:#d20000'> (2 min)</span> Gandhi wrote:
On Apr 22 2012 17:52<span style='color:#d20000'> (2 min)</span> ZenithM wrote:
That BL cheese was underestimating Genius a bit :/


How is BL ever a cheese.


Well, he essentially didn't build anything but drones and tech until minute 13. I'd say that can easily be considered a cheese. While most cheeses sacrifice everything for army, this sacrificed everything for tech. If genius attacked earlier, ret would have been in lots of trouble

you have to calculate that he saw early third from genius and knew he would have a smaller army.. i think he made the right decision in that case, he lost the game only because of having no support and too many drones later on.
eXeHephaistas
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands144 Posts
April 22 2012 15:57 GMT
#2310
On April 23 2012 00:55 ceaRshaf wrote:
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On April 23 2012 00:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:53 ceaRshaf wrote:
I always considere Ret a beta version of idra.



What are you talking about Ret is miles better then Idra.


I think idra is past the macro machine and is actually trying to understand the game.

Ret does his own thing and sometimes wins.


Sometimes? Lol.
He doesn't lose often to non koreans.
Idra on the other hand still drops games to Cruncher
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
April 22 2012 15:57 GMT
#2311
On April 23 2012 00:56 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ret better beat this boring dude.


Genius better beat this droning noob.
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
April 22 2012 15:57 GMT
#2312
Mmh, Ret didn't morphed his over-25 drones into spines during his Broodlord-Transition... the first battle at his 4th wouldn't have caught Ret this off-guard :/ imagine Genius stepping into 12 spines in the north ^^
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 22 2012 15:57 GMT
#2313
On April 23 2012 00:55 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
We need Stephano as foreigner coach really this was horrible Ret


for what? To tell Ret to 12 min roach all in every game and fail vs any other race?

no ty

ret > stephano


Rofl

uh, no.


ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
April 22 2012 15:58 GMT
#2314
On April 23 2012 00:56 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ret better beat this boring dude.

Genius better beat this boring dude.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 22 2012 15:58 GMT
#2315
On April 23 2012 00:55 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
We need Stephano as foreigner coach really this was horrible Ret


for what? To tell Ret to 12 min roach all in every game and fail vs any other race?

no ty

ret > stephano

i dont know what to say.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 15:58:33
April 22 2012 15:58 GMT
#2316
On April 23 2012 00:57 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:56 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ret better beat this boring dude.


Genius better beat this droning noob.


OH snAp!


Cmon Genius 2-0 plz
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
April 22 2012 15:58 GMT
#2317
On April 23 2012 00:56 Kevan wrote:
He sacrificed like 11 million units to try and save that top left base.


Yeah, he should have left it for dead and relocated the drones to the south.
But it's easy to say when we have maphacks.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
April 22 2012 15:58 GMT
#2318
Genius has some nice unit control.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
April 22 2012 15:59 GMT
#2319
On April 23 2012 00:56 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ret better beat this boring dude.

Yeah, Ret's style is twice as entertaining...
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
April 22 2012 15:59 GMT
#2320
Genius better finish this kid off. Ret so overrated for his marcro, making only drones isn`t that impressive.
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