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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 12:41:56
April 18 2012 12:41 GMT
#2721
On April 18 2012 21:36 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:33 Destructicon wrote:
On April 18 2012 21:29 rothsbury wrote:
It'd be interesting to see a battlecruiser switch in that situation (maxed terran with heaps of resources). Supernova did really well but his army always seemed much weaker than it should be given his huge advantage... in the TvP matchup you just max on bio, there's no real high tech units (besides a few ghosts) that you mix in to make it really dangerous. It was always a danger that genius would kill supernova's relatively weak army at some point and roll him before he could reinforce.


Terrible idea, by the time you max with BCs the Toss would have had ample time to scout the switch and prepare an ample defense, + all the extra burst and firepower of BCs is negated by feedback, which also rapes a big chunk of a BCs HP, you'd have to EMP your own BCs, in which case again you can't benefit from having Yamato.

Anyway, if someone would have told me last season, that Genius would lose a long macro game to a Terran, on Daybreak, and more specifically to Supernova, I'd have laughed in the guys face.

In TvT there have been late game BC switches which have gone completely unscouted (cf virus vs supernova today), no reason why you couldn't also catch a P off guard. Especially since the standard game is to just make bio all game, there would ordinarily be no reason to scout the terran's base. Also re: high templar, that turns into a micro battle where the terran wants to get yamatos off before he gets fedback.


Absolutely irrelevant, Virus was already ahead and containing Supernova, additionally Supernova threw away a huge chunk of his Viking fleet.
Additionally protoss has more persistent and harder to stop scouting via obs.

Edit: There is a reason why BCs and Carrier games are the exception, not the rule.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45674 Posts
April 18 2012 12:41 GMT
#2722
On April 18 2012 21:41 opterown wrote:
kinda morbid just then lol


Everybody Poops After Tasteless kills them...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 18 2012 12:41 GMT
#2723
oh tastosis hahaha
Viruuus
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany451 Posts
April 18 2012 12:41 GMT
#2724
rofl tastosis, i just spat my tea over my keyboard because i had to laugh so hard! epic.. :D
Lee Jae Dong fighting!!!
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
April 18 2012 12:41 GMT
#2725
Okay, now it's getting pretty morbid, but I'm still laughing out loud : D "Everybody Poops... After Tasteless Kills Them" got me going ^^
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 18 2012 12:42 GMT
#2726
Artosis?
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
April 18 2012 12:42 GMT
#2727
On April 18 2012 21:40 OceanLab wrote:
Just got logged in to see that Nani 4-0'd his way to victory.
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly...
Way to go Naniwa!!!


did huk ever get this far? i thought it was only jinro who ever made it to ro8
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
April 18 2012 12:42 GMT
#2728
On April 18 2012 21:40 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:36 IshinShishi wrote:
On April 18 2012 21:30 zefreak wrote:
On April 18 2012 21:29 -y0shi- wrote:
Not even whining, great play by supernova, but seriously, how the hell is toss supposed to beat this army and why are people complaining terran lategame is to week?! With ghost/cloak/drop you can do soo much and toss can just run around like an idiot until he misses a nuke


Are you kidding me?

No observers, losing templars with full energy left and right(literally everywhere, all the time) because he couldn't keep up, clumping units and losing them due to move commands, and yet you can find people thinking that this game means that everything is going smoothly in TvP.


What goos are the templars against 25 ghosts? What good are obs if they fall from the sky instantly?
I really dont see a way to win an engagement as toss when the terran has pfs everywhere and mass ghost / viking


The terran tends to have mass pf's when the protoss doesn't contest their forward expansions. There were never 25 ghosts out at one point. In fact, the most that were ever out were 4-5 before genius essentially "lost." Genius would have crushed that army, but supernova played it near perfect and simply avoided the confrontations and Genius played into it.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
April 18 2012 12:42 GMT
#2729
Hahahah "Tasteless holds this nerds head under water, this nerd better grow some gills fast".. awesome childrens book
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 18 2012 12:42 GMT
#2730
omfg Artosis is on that crazy maniacal laughter level - I hope these TVT's go for a while, some LOLS to be had!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#2731
On April 18 2012 21:42 Twelve12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:40 OceanLab wrote:
Just got logged in to see that Nani 4-0'd his way to victory.
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly...
Way to go Naniwa!!!


did huk ever get this far? i thought it was only jinro who ever made it to ro8


yes huk vs mvp.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#2732
On April 18 2012 21:42 Twelve12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:40 OceanLab wrote:
Just got logged in to see that Nani 4-0'd his way to victory.
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly...
Way to go Naniwa!!!


did huk ever get this far? i thought it was only jinro who ever made it to ro8


HuK made Ro8, Jinro Ro4 twice, as far as I remember.
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
April 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#2733
On April 18 2012 21:42 Twelve12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:40 OceanLab wrote:
Just got logged in to see that Nani 4-0'd his way to victory.
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly...
Way to go Naniwa!!!


did huk ever get this far? i thought it was only jinro who ever made it to ro8


Yes, Huk did once and lost to MVP I believe. Jinro made it to Ro4 twice.
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#2734
Lol that artosis laugh
Cackle™
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
April 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#2735
On April 18 2012 21:42 Twelve12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:40 OceanLab wrote:
Just got logged in to see that Nani 4-0'd his way to victory.
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly...
Way to go Naniwa!!!


did huk ever get this far? i thought it was only jinro who ever made it to ro8


I am almost certain HuK got one Ro8 and a bunch of 16/32
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
April 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#2736
On April 18 2012 21:42 Twelve12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:40 OceanLab wrote:
Just got logged in to see that Nani 4-0'd his way to victory.
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly...
Way to go Naniwa!!!


did huk ever get this far? i thought it was only jinro who ever made it to ro8

jinro was in semis. twice.
No carpal tunnel no skill
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#2737
On April 18 2012 21:43 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:42 Twelve12 wrote:
On April 18 2012 21:40 OceanLab wrote:
Just got logged in to see that Nani 4-0'd his way to victory.
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly...
Way to go Naniwa!!!


did huk ever get this far? i thought it was only jinro who ever made it to ro8


I am almost certain HuK got one Ro8 and a bunch of 16/32


Quite different format though
Bo1 Groups then Bo3 Ro16 single elim
Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
April 18 2012 12:44 GMT
#2738
On April 18 2012 21:43 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 21:42 Twelve12 wrote:
On April 18 2012 21:40 OceanLab wrote:
Just got logged in to see that Nani 4-0'd his way to victory.
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly...
Way to go Naniwa!!!


did huk ever get this far? i thought it was only jinro who ever made it to ro8

jinro was in semis. twice.


I think i must have been confusing ro8 with semis, i had a vague idea that huk never got as far as jinro, thanks
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
April 18 2012 12:45 GMT
#2739
Really nice banshee control from Supernova, he definitely got a lot out of it.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Names
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada328 Posts
April 18 2012 12:45 GMT
#2740
Genius.... those picks backfired quite a bit
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