EPT[Code S] Ro16 2012 GSL Season 2 Group A - Page 136
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:37 GreyKnight wrote: It'll work like once or twice but then protoss will just use their observers more. Turret rings  | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:31 rothsbury wrote: Genius' army was stronger for pretty much all the game, except at the very very end. The problem was that he didn't handle the harrass well. "running around like an idiot" is not how you handle drop harrass; you have to split effectively / have units in position properly. Yeah and then what? IT seems like the terran army is actually a lot stronger in a direct engagement, if you fight in a choke / theres even a pf I dont even see toss winning this fight. You also wont have detection against ghosts / vikings and 25 cloaked ghosts with no detection is kinda hard to stop :/ | ||
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RageCommodore
Germany912 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:34 zEnVy wrote: SuperNova showing that stacking in a ball and fighting late game protoss in one massive battle is pretty stupid and goes against everything Bio has going for it. It really felt that Genius really disappointed with his drop defense and multitasking there. He's done perfect defense before so it just seems really weird that he got outclassed like that. Another thing is, and I'm theory crafting, but if Genius would have just pushed and went for the basetrade scenario, and camped Supernova's production (if he managed to get there), would it have been different. I recall a game between MMA and Oz on Calm Before The Storm where Oz was totally owned for 95% of the game, then he just pushed out with storm and Colossi, camped MMA's main and won. Whatever it is, don't want to take anything away from Supernova's win though. Great showing. Hope he beats Virus now. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46309 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:36 Kenpark wrote: Future of endgame tvp ? Ghosts and drops and multi-pronged harrass? And MMMVG? Pretty sure that's been the past, present, and future of TvP  Supernova just pulled it off really well  | ||
Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
Best book ever. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Ghosts and drops and multi-pronged harrass? And MMMVG? Pretty sure that's been the past, present, and future of TvP Supernova just pulled it off really well Besides, the future of TvP is SkyGhost Terran. ....I wish... | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:36 IshinShishi wrote: No observers, losing templars with full energy left and right(literally everywhere, all the time) because he couldn't keep up, clumping units and losing them due to move commands, and yet you can find people thinking that this game means that everything is going smoothly in TvP. What goos are the templars against 25 ghosts? What good are obs if they fall from the sky instantly? I really dont see a way to win an engagement as toss when the terran has pfs everywhere and mass ghost / viking | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
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OceanLab
France505 Posts
Foreigners fighting!! How long has it been since a foreigner in Ro8? I think it was HuK if I recall correctly... Way to go Naniwa!!! | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:36 Kenpark wrote: Future of endgame tvp ? Everyone has known this for a long time now. Mass ghosts, nukes, planetary fortresses. The thing is, it takes even longer to reach that point than Protoss reaching the 3-3, colossus + storms, 15 gateway, which is what Terrans have a problem with. | ||
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RageCommodore
Germany912 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:36 Kenpark wrote: Future of endgame tvp ? every end game tvp | ||
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On April 18 2012 21:34 Belha wrote: I do not agree. Supernova just did what a lot of T's are not doing, but the tools are there. Genius as a P defended very well aganist such amazing multi task, but always the initiative was from Supernova (the harasser always knows where he is going, the defender cannot predict where exactly the harass will land), so Genius did a less visible, less fancy, but still a spectacular job at defending such multi pronged attacks when P is not efficient to defend at multiple locations. Supernova win it in amazing fashion, showing tools that many top T's are not even considering for lategame TvP, but Genius put up a great fight, it was not a rape as some fanboys/noobs are saying. Genius didn't defend well, at all, he had no observers, no cannons and donated a ton of full energy hts, also, terrans have lost plenty of games by spending resources on useless when scouted nuking and drops, you really should lurk more before calling people noobs. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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