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Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
April 12 2012 13:09 GMT
#1921
On April 12 2012 21:50 HaXeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 21:45 Fionn wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:43 Xarles wrote:
omg 3 champs down, 3 to go O.O


Polt, Jjakji, DRG, MMA.

4 down. 3 to go.

FruitDealer knocked into Code LoL.

I think Xarles is right. 3 champions. Who is Polt?

+ Show Spoiler +
j/k

Already corrected it in an earlier post thanks to Fionn
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328478&currentpage=94#1866
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
April 12 2012 13:10 GMT
#1922
woah MMA :o
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 12 2012 13:11 GMT
#1923
On April 12 2012 21:41 Fionn wrote:
If MC, Nestea and MVP don't advance, every GSL champion ever won't make the Ro16.

That is acutally not that unlikely. OMGWTF.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 12 2012 13:12 GMT
#1924
On April 12 2012 22:07 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 21:57 0ne wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:48 FidoDido wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:46 Zane wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:43 Xarles wrote:
omg 3 champs down, 3 to go O.O

It's not any 3 champs, it's The Big 3. They will hold the line against the new generation. They have to.

If all 3 goes down, then I will feel very sad... and hope top BW pros switch over sooner.. from a spectator pov, I really wish there was just 1 dominant player instead of a new champion every week.

Flash is the dominant player in bw but the last 2 champions are Fanta and Jangbi, Flash wasn't even in the finals,skt1 is the PL winner. With the bw pros switching there's going to be a lot more different champions

But what is missing from SC2 is lack of consistency; the only thing consistent is that every season we see champions and top 4's drop down in the first round. I mean yea, it happens in BW too here and there, but no where as near as often.


Disagree entirely. Maybe recently in GSL, but last year you had Nestea, MVP and MC consistently up there (MC less so after spring). They rarely dropped out in the first round, and if they did, it was against each other (MC vs MVP in group play... why MC why -_-; ).

Look at all the other tournaments apart from GSL. The results correlate pretty much as expected - DRG/MKP doing very well in all the ones they entered, aLive doing well in IPL4 (got to Ro4 last GSL), etc. You get the odd poor day from players who drop out early (DRG, MMA), but people point to those and try to extrapolate them to an overview of SC2. It's not SC2, it's simply that players do worse sometimes.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 12 2012 13:12 GMT
#1925
On April 12 2012 22:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:06 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:05 mycro wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:52 Severus_ wrote:
I don't think MVP will win games tomorrow. He payed the price of winning a game vs Flash.


Huh? What do you mean?


I'm not sure even he knows what he's going on about :p


He's probably talking about a curse that Flash surely put on anyone who had beaten him in BW way back in the day. Even if it was like... one game. lol.

+ Show Spoiler +
But really, he's just sour that Flash lost 2 games in the recent SKT vs. KT finals, including the ace match, allowing SKT to win 4-3 FUCK YEAH.


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK YEAH! /skt brofist
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 12 2012 13:13 GMT
#1926
Well, for osl, the 4 semi finalist get seeded into ro16, so you will see less big upsets
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44563 Posts
April 12 2012 13:16 GMT
#1927
On April 12 2012 22:12 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:06 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:05 mycro wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:52 Severus_ wrote:
I don't think MVP will win games tomorrow. He payed the price of winning a game vs Flash.


Huh? What do you mean?


I'm not sure even he knows what he's going on about :p


He's probably talking about a curse that Flash surely put on anyone who had beaten him in BW way back in the day. Even if it was like... one game. lol.

+ Show Spoiler +
But really, he's just sour that Flash lost 2 games in the recent SKT vs. KT finals, including the ace match, allowing SKT to win 4-3 FUCK YEAH.


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK YEAH! /skt brofist


+ Show Spoiler +
/skt brofist thatlastgamewasamazing


On April 12 2012 22:11 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 21:41 Fionn wrote:
If MC, Nestea and MVP don't advance, every GSL champion ever won't make the Ro16.

That is acutally not that unlikely. OMGWTF.


Surely at least MC or Nestea will move on, right? Aren't they in the same bracket of four?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 12 2012 13:16 GMT
#1928
Oh wow, if Boxer beats Line in the first round, it's MMA vs Boxer in round 2...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44563 Posts
April 12 2012 13:17 GMT
#1929
On April 12 2012 22:16 Gorlin wrote:
Oh wow, if Boxer beats Line in the first round, it's MMA vs Boxer in round 2...


It won't be as emotional as Boxer vs. Oov, I think.

Although that's pretty cool
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 12 2012 13:19 GMT
#1930
On April 12 2012 21:50 noddy wrote:
MVP's TvP was never good. He just has incredible TvT/TvZ which is why he succeeded lots, I doubt he'll have that success this season.

Yeah, only a 63% win rate, awful TvP...
Ouroborosian
Profile Joined April 2012
85 Posts
April 12 2012 13:20 GMT
#1931
--- Nuked ---
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 12 2012 13:21 GMT
#1932
On April 12 2012 22:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:12 Dodgin wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:06 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:05 mycro wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:52 Severus_ wrote:
I don't think MVP will win games tomorrow. He payed the price of winning a game vs Flash.


Huh? What do you mean?


I'm not sure even he knows what he's going on about :p


He's probably talking about a curse that Flash surely put on anyone who had beaten him in BW way back in the day. Even if it was like... one game. lol.

+ Show Spoiler +
But really, he's just sour that Flash lost 2 games in the recent SKT vs. KT finals, including the ace match, allowing SKT to win 4-3 FUCK YEAH.


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK YEAH! /skt brofist


+ Show Spoiler +
/skt brofist thatlastgamewasamazing


Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:11 Aunvilgod wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:41 Fionn wrote:
If MC, Nestea and MVP don't advance, every GSL champion ever won't make the Ro16.

That is acutally not that unlikely. OMGWTF.


Surely at least MC or Nestea will move on, right? Aren't they in the same bracket of four?



+ Show Spoiler +
I was actually more excited for FvF even though the last game gave us the win and it was the ace, just because to see Fantasy decimate Flash in a straight up game after saying in his interviews he wanted to play him all season was so satisfying.


One of them will make it out of that group without a doubt, probably both.

Virus and Inca are not exactly the scariest players out there.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
April 12 2012 13:22 GMT
#1933
On April 12 2012 22:19 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 21:50 noddy wrote:
MVP's TvP was never good. He just has incredible TvT/TvZ which is why he succeeded lots, I doubt he'll have that success this season.

Yeah, only a 63% win rate, awful TvP...


That is including Foreign tourneys I believe, in GSL he is at 40-50%.

Also 4 previous Code S champions down O.O What is this madness?!
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 12 2012 13:24 GMT
#1934
On April 12 2012 22:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:12 Dodgin wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:06 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 12 2012 22:05 mycro wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:52 Severus_ wrote:
I don't think MVP will win games tomorrow. He payed the price of winning a game vs Flash.


Huh? What do you mean?


I'm not sure even he knows what he's going on about :p


He's probably talking about a curse that Flash surely put on anyone who had beaten him in BW way back in the day. Even if it was like... one game. lol.

+ Show Spoiler +
But really, he's just sour that Flash lost 2 games in the recent SKT vs. KT finals, including the ace match, allowing SKT to win 4-3 FUCK YEAH.


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK YEAH! /skt brofist


+ Show Spoiler +
/skt brofist thatlastgamewasamazing


Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:11 Aunvilgod wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:41 Fionn wrote:
If MC, Nestea and MVP don't advance, every GSL champion ever won't make the Ro16.

That is acutally not that unlikely. OMGWTF.


Surely at least MC or Nestea will move on, right? Aren't they in the same bracket of four?




Damn SKT1 fans......... In any case I will have to watch the MMA v Leenock games. I can't believe he lost a TvZ of all matchups. Go Squirtle!
In Inca we trust
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 12 2012 13:24 GMT
#1935
On April 12 2012 22:22 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:19 Gorlin wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:50 noddy wrote:
MVP's TvP was never good. He just has incredible TvT/TvZ which is why he succeeded lots, I doubt he'll have that success this season.

Yeah, only a 63% win rate, awful TvP...


That is including Foreign tourneys I believe, in GSL he is at 40-50%.

Also 4 previous Code S champions down O.O What is this madness?!


No that's Korean tournament only.

Korea TLPD only includes those games.

Korea : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/590_MVP

International: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/590_MVP
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
April 12 2012 13:24 GMT
#1936
MMA out....... what the heck! NaDa too .
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 13:26:43
April 12 2012 13:25 GMT
#1937
On April 12 2012 22:19 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 21:50 noddy wrote:
MVP's TvP was never good. He just has incredible TvT/TvZ which is why he succeeded lots, I doubt he'll have that success this season.

Yeah, only a 63% win rate, awful TvP...


*AHEM* 47.22%

Don't use International. It's full of shit players and inflated winrates.

edit: shit, my bad. Thought you said MMA ^__^
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 12 2012 13:26 GMT
#1938
On April 12 2012 22:22 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:19 Gorlin wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:50 noddy wrote:
MVP's TvP was never good. He just has incredible TvT/TvZ which is why he succeeded lots, I doubt he'll have that success this season.

Yeah, only a 63% win rate, awful TvP...


That is including Foreign tourneys I believe, in GSL he is at 40-50%.

Also 4 previous Code S champions down O.O What is this madness?!

That's less than 50% of the GSL champions (counting open season/supertournament). That's actually not THAT bad. Plus unless Virus/Inca pull of some dark (templar) magic, MC and Nestea will both advance
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
April 12 2012 13:27 GMT
#1939
Yeah well, with this many strong Protosses it probably wont matter that Leenock advanced over MMA... t.t
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
April 12 2012 13:27 GMT
#1940
On April 12 2012 22:12 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:07 Fubi wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:57 0ne wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:48 FidoDido wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:46 Zane wrote:
On April 12 2012 21:43 Xarles wrote:
omg 3 champs down, 3 to go O.O

It's not any 3 champs, it's The Big 3. They will hold the line against the new generation. They have to.

If all 3 goes down, then I will feel very sad... and hope top BW pros switch over sooner.. from a spectator pov, I really wish there was just 1 dominant player instead of a new champion every week.

Flash is the dominant player in bw but the last 2 champions are Fanta and Jangbi, Flash wasn't even in the finals,skt1 is the PL winner. With the bw pros switching there's going to be a lot more different champions

But what is missing from SC2 is lack of consistency; the only thing consistent is that every season we see champions and top 4's drop down in the first round. I mean yea, it happens in BW too here and there, but no where as near as often.


Disagree entirely. Maybe recently in GSL, but last year you had Nestea, MVP and MC consistently up there (MC less so after spring). They rarely dropped out in the first round, and if they did, it was against each other (MC vs MVP in group play... why MC why -_-; ).

Look at all the other tournaments apart from GSL. The results correlate pretty much as expected - DRG/MKP doing very well in all the ones they entered, aLive doing well in IPL4 (got to Ro4 last GSL), etc. You get the odd poor day from players who drop out early (DRG, MMA), but people point to those and try to extrapolate them to an overview of SC2. It's not SC2, it's simply that players do worse sometimes.

Errr, last year, MC, MVP, and Nestea, definitely dropped out of Code S at least once, and each definitely had their own share of slumps, and all those other players you mentioned are out of Code S first round as well cept MKP; and even MKP himself had his own share of rollercoaster ride.

When your "sometimes" happens every season and to every player, then it really isn't a "sometimes" anymore is it? You can not name a single player, NOT ONE, who hasn't had his own share of these mini-slumps. As well, we constantly get players popping out of nowhere and becomes good all of a sudden. How can this be fun? You're either forced to be a heart-broken fan, or a band-wagon fan.
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