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Zerothegreat
Profile Joined September 2010
United States787 Posts
March 31 2012 08:25 GMT
#1341
Very hard to get excited or in the moment when they alienated the English casters from the event...
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
March 31 2012 08:25 GMT
#1342
On March 31 2012 17:23 Adreme wrote:
Okay, I usually am good at watching MU and knowing what happend but can someone explained what happend that game. It looked like it was going great for Genius and then he just lost the battle and I dont know how that happend. Im just kind of confused as to what I missed, did he tech to hard while expanding?


What just happened is what most Protoss are crying about as of late, the zerg just traded mass roach for stalkers and sentries and the only real way to circumvent this as Protoss is to micro 2 fronts perfectly with good forcefields which is really difficult, this is the main reason we see a lot of 2 Base.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
March 31 2012 08:25 GMT
#1343
On March 31 2012 17:23 Adreme wrote:
Okay, I usually am good at watching MU and knowing what happend but can someone explained what happend that game. It looked like it was going great for Genius and then he just lost the battle and I dont know how that happend. Im just kind of confused as to what I missed, did he tech to hard while expanding?

You need Sentries to reshape the positioning of the battle as head on roach vs stalker = roach win.

He didn't have enough sentries to forcefield roaches away (not to mention he wasted quite abit) and he chose to engage in a really wide open area. And he didn't defend his gateway wall at his 3rd well enough.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
snullbar
Profile Joined May 2011
17 Posts
March 31 2012 08:25 GMT
#1344
On March 31 2012 17:23 Adreme wrote:
Okay, I usually am good at watching MU and knowing what happend but can someone explained what happend that game. It looked like it was going great for Genius and then he just lost the battle and I dont know how that happend. Im just kind of confused as to what I missed, did he tech to hard while expanding?


I think it was his moveout in to the open middle area it gave the zerg an killing concave and his army just evaporated
Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
March 31 2012 08:26 GMT
#1345
Genius didn't split his forces well, so he sort of just fell apart and was losing things way too inefficiently. Plus his tech was late. That many upgraded Roaches, and you need splash to deal with it.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 08:26:53
March 31 2012 08:26 GMT
#1346
Another lose for Genius when it matters

I wonder who the 7 people STQ will take to Las Vegas ...
Parting - Squirtle - Ace/Hack - Bomber - Sound - Curious - July ?
I kinda doubt they will use any Quantic players even though Naniwa is a beast.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
March 31 2012 08:26 GMT
#1347
On March 31 2012 17:24 borny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 17:21 pdd wrote:
On March 31 2012 17:20 Fionn wrote:
It would be funny if Ace isn't one of the seven players ST takes to Vegas.

Are you sure it's only 7 and not 9? I remember seeing 9 somewhere.

If its 7, Ace might get to go for morale.

I mean,

Bomber
July
Parting
Curious
Virus
Squirtle
Sound/hack/Ace

should be who gets to go and perhaps his seemingly leader role might make them favor him over hack and sound

why only 7??? only 7 airplane tickets sponsored?
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
March 31 2012 08:26 GMT
#1348
What is the song @ end of GSTL?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
March 31 2012 08:26 GMT
#1349
Prime is going to win tomorrow. IDK by how much, but they will win.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
March 31 2012 08:26 GMT
#1350
On March 31 2012 17:24 borny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 17:21 pdd wrote:
On March 31 2012 17:20 Fionn wrote:
It would be funny if Ace isn't one of the seven players ST takes to Vegas.

Are you sure it's only 7 and not 9? I remember seeing 9 somewhere.

If its 7, Ace might get to go for morale.

I mean,

Bomber
July
Parting
Curious
Virus
Squirtle
Sound/hack/Ace

should be who gets to go and perhaps his seemingly leader role might make them favor him over hack and sound


Bomber won't count cause he's already going to IPL via qualifiers. And Hack hasn't played for them all season, so I can't really see them taking Hack over Ace.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 08:27:31
March 31 2012 08:26 GMT
#1351
On March 31 2012 17:25 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 17:23 Adreme wrote:
Okay, I usually am good at watching MU and knowing what happend but can someone explained what happend that game. It looked like it was going great for Genius and then he just lost the battle and I dont know how that happend. Im just kind of confused as to what I missed, did he tech to hard while expanding?

You need Sentries to reshape the positioning of the battle as head on roach vs stalker = roach win.

He didn't have enough sentries to forcefield roaches away (not to mention he wasted quite abit) and he chose to engage in a really wide open area. And he didn't defend his gateway wall at his 3rd well enough.


Yep. Those constantly 3-forcefields attempting to capture roaches (which failed) is what cost him the game imo.
Normally Genius is so good at holding two-pronged Roach attacks as well, totally fell apart there
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Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 31 2012 08:26 GMT
#1352
On March 31 2012 17:22 MrCon wrote:
Viva Las Vegas ! :D
Haaa, wtf, show us the live feed and not the studio wtf.


I gotta be honest. This semi-final felt like the "foreigner" audience was getting some cut-rate production even though we're paying them good money. It's not something that will get me to stop purchasing the GSTL but, they really shouldn't leave the English casters "back home" like this ever again. It just looks and feels terrible.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
mell0w
Profile Joined September 2010
United States102 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 08:28:13
March 31 2012 08:27 GMT
#1353
You know that one unit.. the "roach"?
..yeah.. that's a pretty good unit..
D:
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
March 31 2012 08:27 GMT
#1354
Curious baited a lot of wasted force fields from Genius, really well done.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 31 2012 08:27 GMT
#1355
I thought I heard Doa/Cats on IPL ToC say that they would be bringing seven. Could be nine.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
March 31 2012 08:27 GMT
#1356
So happy. Wooo, ST! Remember those days when Artosis kept bashing Curious for being a mediocre player? Muahahaha.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
March 31 2012 08:27 GMT
#1357
On March 31 2012 17:24 red4ce wrote:
I really don't like the new GSTL format. FXO loses twice yet they're still in while MVP loses once and they're out.


Well. MVP only had to win twice to get where they are, with no losses. FXO lost twice yes but also had to win 4 times (this is their 5th win) to get where they are.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 31 2012 08:28 GMT
#1358
On March 31 2012 17:26 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 17:22 MrCon wrote:
Viva Las Vegas ! :D
Haaa, wtf, show us the live feed and not the studio wtf.


I gotta be honest. This semi-final felt like the "foreigner" audience was getting some cut-rate production even though we're paying them good money. It's not something that will get me to stop purchasing the GSTL but, they really shouldn't leave the English casters "back home" like this ever again. It just looks and feels terrible.

I'm sure they know they messed up.

GOM is usually really good. I'll forgive them this slip up.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
March 31 2012 08:28 GMT
#1359
So... how do you beat maxed roaches again? Forcefields, sure, but they are useless versus burrow.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
March 31 2012 08:28 GMT
#1360
On March 31 2012 17:24 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 17:23 Adreme wrote:
Okay, I usually am good at watching MU and knowing what happend but can someone explained what happend that game. It looked like it was going great for Genius and then he just lost the battle and I dont know how that happend. Im just kind of confused as to what I missed, did he tech to hard while expanding?

You need forcefields to hold off the maxed roach army while you get your 3rd up and max yourself. Genius didn't have enough sentries, so when his energy ran out he got overwhelmed.

Edit: Genius also didn't split his army very well against the multi-pronged attacks from Curious. Watch
to see awesome army splitting in a kinda similar situation.


You missed the part where Puzzle did early eco damage. Genius had to fake agression and the Zerg needed to overreact which Curious did not. If Zerg handled the fake agression correctly, they can max out much much faster and no amount of good forcefields or army splitting will help that.
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