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Azhrei16
Profile Joined August 2011
United States284 Posts
March 28 2012 14:40 GMT
#2061
Seriously, where the hell did July come from? He went from basically being out of the scene to now being in Code S, smashing through some great players along the way. Just goes to show he still has the magic when he wants to use it =)
Sleed
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada181 Posts
March 28 2012 14:47 GMT
#2062
On March 28 2012 23:40 Azhrei16 wrote:
Seriously, where the hell did July come from? He went from basically being out of the scene to now being in Code S, smashing through some great players along the way. Just goes to show he still has the magic when he wants to use it =)


Maybe he never disappeared?
ShakkaFL
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway647 Posts
March 28 2012 14:48 GMT
#2063
funny how stressed alive looks while playing compared to how relaxed july looks :p
Terran 24/7
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
March 28 2012 14:49 GMT
#2064
I unfortunately am on an Amtrak and thus don't get to watch streaming video. Just read the live reports.

I'm happy for MKP, and sad for Zenio.

To be honest, watching JulyZerg play makes me scratch my head a lot of the time. Most games last season were early all-in aggression, or reach a certain point, decide that was it, and start chain attacking till someone GGs. It was like a grown up BitbyBit (This is from my sample size of games).

It sounds like he's playing better strategically - even if still making mistakes mechanically -, and I'll take a look at him in the RO16 if I can (despite subscribing to GOM, I don't watch anything except live).
McPhiz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada183 Posts
March 28 2012 14:49 GMT
#2065
On March 28 2012 23:37 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 22:58 Azzur wrote:
GSL is brutal if u have a weak matchup!


This is so true, especially now that race distribution is evening up a bit... it really feels like a battle royale now, where anyone can die at any second

I especially like player-specific weaknesses -- DRG crushed in the GSL last season, but MKP has stomped him twice at MLG now... but MKP has so many off days that he has to make it far enough to meet these great players etc It's so awesome!


It's not that MKP has so many off days it's that MKP plays so many very aggressive builds and sometimes those don't work.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 28 2012 14:52 GMT
#2066
yay july win!.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
March 28 2012 14:56 GMT
#2067
If Zenio would have to lose to anyone, at least the spot went to an incredibly awesome nerdballer. God of War does not disappoint!
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
March 28 2012 15:00 GMT
#2068
july's gonna win this thing
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
March 28 2012 15:08 GMT
#2069
MKP keeps on ripping it up
savior did nothing wrong
Xtreme94
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia282 Posts
March 28 2012 15:20 GMT
#2070
Can someone tell why two semifinalist of last season fall to code A round 48? Is this the new curse?
iss
Profile Joined October 2011
United States36 Posts
March 28 2012 15:28 GMT
#2071
MKP :D

Poor Zenio, looks like nerves got to him again. Definitely should have beaten July in his strongest matchup.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 28 2012 15:28 GMT
#2072
On March 28 2012 23:49 ghosthunter wrote:
I unfortunately am on an Amtrak and thus don't get to watch streaming video. Just read the live reports.

I'm happy for MKP, and sad for Zenio.

To be honest, watching JulyZerg play makes me scratch my head a lot of the time. Most games last season were early all-in aggression, or reach a certain point, decide that was it, and start chain attacking till someone GGs. It was like a grown up BitbyBit (This is from my sample size of games).

It sounds like he's playing better strategically - even if still making mistakes mechanically -, and I'll take a look at him in the RO16 if I can (despite subscribing to GOM, I don't watch anything except live).

so it was lika a zerg mkp? just kidding mkp fans, i love him too
but both mkp and july are very unique and aggressive and are famous for using tier 1 units.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
March 28 2012 15:35 GMT
#2073
poor alive but i love july
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
March 28 2012 15:45 GMT
#2074
July did nothing special really. He just did what he always does with extra mustard: flip the switch.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 16:21:39
March 28 2012 15:50 GMT
#2075
On March 29 2012 00:20 Xtreme94 wrote:
Can someone tell why two semifinalist of last season fall to code A round 48? Is this the new curse?

It is surprising, but if you really break it down and analyse it, it's not as surprising. Also, don't forget, to get to Code S, you have to survive a grueling process, meaning the players there deserved their spots.

For Gumiho:
In the ro32 last season, he was in danger of getting last in his ro32 group, but Yugioh absolutely choked. Yugioh even banked 7k (!!) gas in one of the games.

In his ro16 group, he beat MVP twice when MVP purportedly had weak wrists.

In the ro8, he beat Puzzle in probably his best matchup - Puzzle helped by losing a couple of games with very poor play.

In the ro4, he was 2-0 against DRG but DRG woke up on how to play the matchup. He played safe and solid and came back.

For Alive:
He was carried by his stellar TvT matchup.

He won a TvP, but that was against SlayerBrown, who decided to play in an allin gimmicky fashion.

The other non-TvT he won was against Curious, who played in a curious manner on 2 nice zerg maps, deciding (like his matches against Hero his season) that Hive tech is for wimps. If Curious had played in the same style he did to beat Gumiho, Curious should've won that series.

Conclusion
If you have a weak matchup or weaknesses in your play, you will be found out very quickly in the brutal cut throat competition in Code S. That's why players who have survived long to stay in Code S are deserving of much respect.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
March 28 2012 15:56 GMT
#2076
This is actually potentially July's 4th big push for the title. He best and most noteworthy push was of course when he reached the finals, but this isn't the only time. Some reasons ago he was playing like a badass and lost a competitive series to MVP(best player in the world at the time) with MVP being the only person in his path who was very threatening. The 3rd time was gsl open season 3 where July was slaughtering people but ended up falling in a super close 2-1 series to MC, who went on to win the title. I don't get why July gets so much doubt when he has has strong pushes in the gsl spread over over the entire gsl history.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 28 2012 15:56 GMT
#2077
I wasn't sold on Gumiho and aLive two months ago when everyone was hyping them up to be the second coming of Terran dominance...Gumiho seems to have trouble controlling his own units while aLive have glaring matchup weaknesses...They're both good, but I don't see them on the same level as Supernova or MKP.
moo...for DRG
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
March 28 2012 16:00 GMT
#2078
What beautiful results to wake up to.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 28 2012 16:13 GMT
#2079
On March 29 2012 00:56 Maghetti wrote:
This is actually potentially July's 4th big push for the title. He best and most noteworthy push was of course when he reached the finals, but this isn't the only time. Some reasons ago he was playing like a badass and lost a competitive series to MVP(best player in the world at the time) with MVP being the only person in his path who was very threatening. The 3rd time was gsl open season 3 where July was slaughtering people but ended up falling in a super close 2-1 series to MC, who went on to win the title. I don't get why July gets so much doubt when he has has strong pushes in the gsl spread over over the entire gsl history.


Because he plays very inconsistent... And I'm not talking about playing very risky with a tendency to allin, but about those games when he does things that make you ask "how can a player with so much experience think that was the right thing to do?"

I used to watch his stream when he streamed more often, and it's like he has these off days, where you can clearly see he's playing badly. If you watch him on one of those days, he plays visibly slower, his multitasking is bad etc. and then you watch him on another day and his camera is zipping all over the map, his macro is good, he's spreading creep, and playing like the God of War... It's like 2 different players...
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
March 28 2012 16:18 GMT
#2080
On March 29 2012 01:13 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 00:56 Maghetti wrote:
This is actually potentially July's 4th big push for the title. He best and most noteworthy push was of course when he reached the finals, but this isn't the only time. Some reasons ago he was playing like a badass and lost a competitive series to MVP(best player in the world at the time) with MVP being the only person in his path who was very threatening. The 3rd time was gsl open season 3 where July was slaughtering people but ended up falling in a super close 2-1 series to MC, who went on to win the title. I don't get why July gets so much doubt when he has has strong pushes in the gsl spread over over the entire gsl history.


Because he plays very inconsistent... And I'm not talking about playing very risky with a tendency to allin, but about those games when he does things that make you ask "how can a player with so much experience think that was the right thing to do?"

I used to watch his stream when he streamed more often, and it's like he has these off days, where you can clearly see he's playing badly. If you watch him on one of those days, he plays visibly slower, his multitasking is bad etc. and then you watch him on another day and his camera is zipping all over the map, his macro is good, he's spreading creep, and playing like the God of War... It's like 2 different players...

Maybe it is?

But yeah I get that, it is just I get the impression people believe that the bad July is all there is. I get the impression his skill happens in cycles. He played like a badass to win make the finals for example and then he will lose motivation and play less good for awhile, but eventually he takes a sigh and decides he is going to try to win the championship again.
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