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DreamHack EIZO Open Stockholm - April 21-22, 2012 - Page 4

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 23 2012 00:00 GMT
#61
My God, the venue, both inside and out is just spectacular, hot hot hot hot.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
KaptenCulpa
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden29 Posts
March 23 2012 00:58 GMT
#62
On March 23 2012 07:10 Champloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 05:37 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Do you guys think they will be able to compete with MLG for the best players. MLG is probably flying players out again... soo my guess is that we unfortunantly will have a tournament without the top players except for the korean bteam and stephano trying to win some cash. That is honestly not that exciting. Il buy at ticket anyhow probably just cause its in town.


Dreamhack will have the top EU players + some Koreans
MLG will have the top NA players + some Koreans

Go figure which lineup will be better. Hint: EU > NA :D


DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok.
Born to lose - Live to win
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
March 23 2012 01:10 GMT
#63
Lookin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 23 2012 01:15 GMT
#64
On March 23 2012 09:58 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 07:10 Champloo wrote:
On March 23 2012 05:37 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Do you guys think they will be able to compete with MLG for the best players. MLG is probably flying players out again... soo my guess is that we unfortunantly will have a tournament without the top players except for the korean bteam and stephano trying to win some cash. That is honestly not that exciting. Il buy at ticket anyhow probably just cause its in town.


Dreamhack will have the top EU players + some Koreans
MLG will have the top NA players + some Koreans

Go figure which lineup will be better. Hint: EU > NA :D


DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok.

Assembly was still an amazing tournament.

There is enough talent in the scene to support 2 tournaments at once.
KaptenCulpa
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden29 Posts
March 23 2012 01:54 GMT
#65
On March 23 2012 10:15 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 09:58 KaptenCulpa wrote:
On March 23 2012 07:10 Champloo wrote:
On March 23 2012 05:37 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Do you guys think they will be able to compete with MLG for the best players. MLG is probably flying players out again... soo my guess is that we unfortunantly will have a tournament without the top players except for the korean bteam and stephano trying to win some cash. That is honestly not that exciting. Il buy at ticket anyhow probably just cause its in town.


Dreamhack will have the top EU players + some Koreans
MLG will have the top NA players + some Koreans

Go figure which lineup will be better. Hint: EU > NA :D


DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok.

Assembly was still an amazing tournament.

There is enough talent in the scene to support 2 tournaments at once.


Im not saying that the quality of play isent gonna be great, or that assembely was a bad tournament. But its just not gonna be that intresting watching tournament without the top players. I atleast am not gonna be as much emotionaly involved if the dont come.
Dreamhack need to start offering selected topplayers free trips if the sign on to DH before mlg qualifiers. Im talking about players like: Drg, MC, MMA, HUK, Idra, Naniwa, Marineking (wich are realy good or have big fanbases). they need to ensure that they get atleast half of the top 10 players in the world.
Born to lose - Live to win
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 03:03:37
March 23 2012 03:02 GMT
#66
I enjoyed Assembly way more than MLG Winter Arena.

Better games, better format, live audience. And I don't think MLG had the much better lineup anyway, Assembly had Stephano, Polt, Taeja, Puma, Lucky, Hero, JYP, WhiteRa, Kas, ...

Winter Arena had Merz and Pomi :D
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
March 23 2012 03:21 GMT
#67
This looks marvelous!
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 03:55:27
March 23 2012 03:43 GMT
#68
The European Capital of esports is still cologne germany
but the swedes again...
after the first pictures of some other stadiums im looking forward to pictures of their queen and some swedish flags like last year *smile*
oh man,americans or germans are so chilled in comparison

anyways.looking forward to the tournament.DH always delivers.
HandleTaken
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden81 Posts
March 23 2012 05:29 GMT
#69
I'll buy a ticket for sure

Mainly because it will be a fun SC2-event. I hope to see some new talent in the SC2 scene.

Not sure how many people will tune in to watch the stream if many of the 'best' players won't be there though. But since it is a free HD-stream I think DH will get a decent viewer count.
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
March 23 2012 05:33 GMT
#70
Wow this looks actually amazing! Hope to see more details released in the near future. Will this competition be truly OPEN or will there be a # of invites? Three group stages sounds like overkill for any pro player being involved. CAN'T WAIT!!!! Looks like Day9 will be at all of them. Hopefully you will release names of other casters and the # of streams that will be available! Is there no daily BYOC tournament?
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
March 23 2012 05:56 GMT
#71
On March 23 2012 10:54 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 10:15 Bagi wrote:
On March 23 2012 09:58 KaptenCulpa wrote:
On March 23 2012 07:10 Champloo wrote:
On March 23 2012 05:37 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Do you guys think they will be able to compete with MLG for the best players. MLG is probably flying players out again... soo my guess is that we unfortunantly will have a tournament without the top players except for the korean bteam and stephano trying to win some cash. That is honestly not that exciting. Il buy at ticket anyhow probably just cause its in town.


Dreamhack will have the top EU players + some Koreans
MLG will have the top NA players + some Koreans

Go figure which lineup will be better. Hint: EU > NA :D


DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok.

Assembly was still an amazing tournament.

There is enough talent in the scene to support 2 tournaments at once.


Im not saying that the quality of play isent gonna be great, or that assembely was a bad tournament. But its just not gonna be that intresting watching tournament without the top players. I atleast am not gonna be as much emotionaly involved if the dont come.
Dreamhack need to start offering selected topplayers free trips if the sign on to DH before mlg qualifiers. Im talking about players like: Drg, MC, MMA, HUK, Idra, Naniwa, Marineking (wich are realy good or have big fanbases). they need to ensure that they get atleast half of the top 10 players in the world.


Well, the "current top10 of the world" can't possibly be everywhere every time. With that logic, MLG should be fucking boring with teams Slayers, FXO and IM missing- since compared to them the rest of the world can't be really considered "top"...
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
March 23 2012 06:46 GMT
#72
On March 23 2012 10:54 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 10:15 Bagi wrote:
On March 23 2012 09:58 KaptenCulpa wrote:
On March 23 2012 07:10 Champloo wrote:
On March 23 2012 05:37 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Do you guys think they will be able to compete with MLG for the best players. MLG is probably flying players out again... soo my guess is that we unfortunantly will have a tournament without the top players except for the korean bteam and stephano trying to win some cash. That is honestly not that exciting. Il buy at ticket anyhow probably just cause its in town.


Dreamhack will have the top EU players + some Koreans
MLG will have the top NA players + some Koreans

Go figure which lineup will be better. Hint: EU > NA :D


DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok.

Assembly was still an amazing tournament.

There is enough talent in the scene to support 2 tournaments at once.


Im not saying that the quality of play isent gonna be great, or that assembely was a bad tournament. But its just not gonna be that intresting watching tournament without the top players. I atleast am not gonna be as much emotionaly involved if the dont come.
Dreamhack need to start offering selected topplayers free trips if the sign on to DH before mlg qualifiers. Im talking about players like: Drg, MC, MMA, HUK, Idra, Naniwa, Marineking (wich are realy good or have big fanbases). they need to ensure that they get atleast half of the top 10 players in the world.


did you watch MLG Arena? I had more fun watching Assembly than MLG Arena.

I was more emotional involved in the Assembly tournament. MLG Arena had no crowd and MKP winning felt empty. MLG Arena had probably one of the best lineups excluding GSL and it didn't deliver like it should have being a PPV event. The DH that Hero won was great and probably didn't have that great of an all-star lineup but it sure beat MLG's Arena event. The invitationals that DH holds has like maybe 2 top players (or not even) and the events are always a success to me.


you live and you learn
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
March 23 2012 06:47 GMT
#73
On March 23 2012 01:50 Eee wrote:
Here's a picture of the venue where the event is going to be held at:
[image loading]
[image loading]

what the hell do you play in that globe?? BLITZBALL!?
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
March 23 2012 07:24 GMT
#74
On March 23 2012 15:47 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:50 Eee wrote:
Here's a picture of the venue where the event is going to be held at:
[image loading]
[image loading]

what the hell do you play in that globe?? BLITZBALL!?

It is a hockey arena originally, but it can be adapted to host anything from track and field to music conserts.
RayBeans
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany331 Posts
March 23 2012 07:59 GMT
#75
On March 23 2012 09:58 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 07:10 Champloo wrote:
On March 23 2012 05:37 KaptenCulpa wrote:
Do you guys think they will be able to compete with MLG for the best players. MLG is probably flying players out again... soo my guess is that we unfortunantly will have a tournament without the top players except for the korean bteam and stephano trying to win some cash. That is honestly not that exciting. Il buy at ticket anyhow probably just cause its in town.


Dreamhack will have the top EU players + some Koreans
MLG will have the top NA players + some Koreans

Go figure which lineup will be better. Hint: EU > NA :D


DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok.


I don't understand what you are talking about? Is there a MLG event on the same weekend (21-22.04.12) as the Dreamhack? Just asking because I can't find any information on the mlg page about it. If not, wth are you talking about? If an event is happening at the same time, you are right, it will definitly affect both tournaments negatively because they have to "fight" to get the best players. But on the other way this could turn out to be good for the players, because the tournament hosters have to offer free trips or other benefits to convince players to attend their tournament.
eSports with friends & HSV esports e.V. - Hamburg!
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 09:51:03
March 23 2012 09:13 GMT
#76
On March 23 2012 16:59 RayBeans wrote:
Is there a MLG event on the same weekend (21-22.04.12) as the Dreamhack?

Yeah. One of the two MLG Spring Arenas is on Aplril 20-22 as DreamHack Open Stockholm is on 21-22. See MLG's post. Second Spring Arena is on May 18-20.

If DreamHack is going to go with the open signup, starting on March 27th, as they say, they will have some trouble getting all the big names in. However, I think they will invite players to join even before the 27th, and make the players accepting invites to promise they won't try to qualify for the MLG.

Remember that the MLG Spring Arena is for qualified players only, like the Winter Arena was. DreamHack has the advantage that it's far more appealing for a player to get a guaranteed spot from a big tournament rather than leaving it on a chance by going through a qualification tournament (top 8 from each region qualify as far as I know).
starcraft2.fi
CrugerDK
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark323 Posts
March 23 2012 09:30 GMT
#77
isnt there also going to be two MLG arenas for the spring season?? in that case i can see some players choosing DH because they can always just qualify to the MLG championship through the other one. (depending of how the spring season structure is)
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 09:51:28
March 23 2012 09:50 GMT
#78
On March 23 2012 18:13 Azhrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 16:59 RayBeans wrote:
Is there a MLG event on the same weekend (21-22.04.12) as the Dreamhack?

Yeah. MLG Spring Arena is on Aplril 20-22 as DreamHack Open Stockholm is on 21-22. See MLG's post.

If DreamHack is going to go with the open signup, starting on March 27th, as they say, they will have some trouble getting all the big names in. However, I think they will invite players to join even before the 27th, and make the players accepting invites to promise they won't try to qualify for the MLG.

Remember that the MLG Spring Arena is for qualified players only, like the Winter Arena was. DreamHack has the advantage that it's far more appealing for a player to get a guaranteed spot from a big tournament rather than leaving it on a chance by going through a qualification tournament (top 8 from each region qualify as far as I know).

I find it hard to believe there will be more than a handful on non TL/EG/Other foreign team koreans at DH. Even at DH Winter with 60k+ dollar prize pool there was like...... 2 (DRG and Genius was the only ones?) there. With not even half the prize money, I dont see why Koreans would bother flying there, kinda like Assembly (which got two Koreans: Polt and Lucky).

Im hoping Im wrong, but I wouldnt expect more than 2-4 Koreans to show up apart from the normal ones (Hero, Puma, etc). This will likely be a mostly 80-90% European affair with the odd Korean/NA player to spice things up. Koreans havent really showed much interested in DH before and likely wont now either.

Also, dont forget that travel expenses are still large, MLG barely got any Koreans either until they (or GSL) started paying travel costs. DH doesnt do that, and as such, it's incredibly unlikely DH Stockholm will have anything near the MLG Arena in terms of competitive player pool. Its too bad, but Im just being realistic.
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 10:19:40
March 23 2012 10:05 GMT
#79
On March 23 2012 18:50 Kreb wrote:
... kinda like Assembly (which got two Koreans: Polt and Lucky).

Count again, please. (Edit: Sorry, 3 non-foreign team Koreans like you said.)
+ Show Spoiler +
HerO, JYP, ReaL, Polt, PuMa, TaeJa, Moon, Lucky, Phoenix (+ SeleCT) = 9 Koreans


It's true that travel and accommodation costs covered, MLG seems really good, as long as you can qualify. It's not an easy task, and some might take the easier route and just go to DH which has no qualification tournaments. MLG surely will have at least 8 good players from the Korean qualifier, and the top 8 from NA from the NA qualifier. But with the EU qualifier, we might see the same thing that happened with Assembly, most of the top EU players weren't even in the qualifier since they already got a spot at Assembly.
starcraft2.fi
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 10:12:11
March 23 2012 10:10 GMT
#80
All of the others are on foreign teams, read what I wrote.

Ill give you Taeja though, so make it 3, not 2. Though he also had his trip paid for him, so my point about Koreans barely ever going unless someone pays for them still stands.
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