EPTDreamHack EIZO Open Stockholm - April 21-22, 2012 - Page 4
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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KaptenCulpa
Sweden29 Posts
On March 23 2012 07:10 Champloo wrote: Dreamhack will have the top EU players + some Koreans MLG will have the top NA players + some Koreans Go figure which lineup will be better. Hint: EU > NA :D DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok. | ||
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NOOBALOPSE
Canada802 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On March 23 2012 09:58 KaptenCulpa wrote: DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok. Assembly was still an amazing tournament. There is enough talent in the scene to support 2 tournaments at once. | ||
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KaptenCulpa
Sweden29 Posts
On March 23 2012 10:15 Bagi wrote: Assembly was still an amazing tournament. There is enough talent in the scene to support 2 tournaments at once. Im not saying that the quality of play isent gonna be great, or that assembely was a bad tournament. But its just not gonna be that intresting watching tournament without the top players. I atleast am not gonna be as much emotionaly involved if the dont come. Dreamhack need to start offering selected topplayers free trips if the sign on to DH before mlg qualifiers. Im talking about players like: Drg, MC, MMA, HUK, Idra, Naniwa, Marineking (wich are realy good or have big fanbases). they need to ensure that they get atleast half of the top 10 players in the world. | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
Better games, better format, live audience. And I don't think MLG had the much better lineup anyway, Assembly had Stephano, Polt, Taeja, Puma, Lucky, Hero, JYP, WhiteRa, Kas, ... Winter Arena had Merz and Pomi :D | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
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claash
Poland472 Posts
but the swedes again... after the first pictures of some other stadiums im looking forward to pictures of their queen and some swedish flags like last year *smile* oh man,americans or germans are so chilled in comparison anyways.looking forward to the tournament.DH always delivers. | ||
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HandleTaken
Sweden81 Posts
 Mainly because it will be a fun SC2-event. I hope to see some new talent in the SC2 scene. Not sure how many people will tune in to watch the stream if many of the 'best' players won't be there though. But since it is a free HD-stream I think DH will get a decent viewer count. | ||
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onedayclose
United States1145 Posts
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On March 23 2012 10:54 KaptenCulpa wrote: Im not saying that the quality of play isent gonna be great, or that assembely was a bad tournament. But its just not gonna be that intresting watching tournament without the top players. I atleast am not gonna be as much emotionaly involved if the dont come. Dreamhack need to start offering selected topplayers free trips if the sign on to DH before mlg qualifiers. Im talking about players like: Drg, MC, MMA, HUK, Idra, Naniwa, Marineking (wich are realy good or have big fanbases). they need to ensure that they get atleast half of the top 10 players in the world. Well, the "current top10 of the world" can't possibly be everywhere every time. With that logic, MLG should be fucking boring with teams Slayers, FXO and IM missing- since compared to them the rest of the world can't be really considered "top"... | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On March 23 2012 10:54 KaptenCulpa wrote: Im not saying that the quality of play isent gonna be great, or that assembely was a bad tournament. But its just not gonna be that intresting watching tournament without the top players. I atleast am not gonna be as much emotionaly involved if the dont come. Dreamhack need to start offering selected topplayers free trips if the sign on to DH before mlg qualifiers. Im talking about players like: Drg, MC, MMA, HUK, Idra, Naniwa, Marineking (wich are realy good or have big fanbases). they need to ensure that they get atleast half of the top 10 players in the world. did you watch MLG Arena? I had more fun watching Assembly than MLG Arena. I was more emotional involved in the Assembly tournament. MLG Arena had no crowd and MKP winning felt empty. MLG Arena had probably one of the best lineups excluding GSL and it didn't deliver like it should have being a PPV event. The DH that Hero won was great and probably didn't have that great of an all-star lineup but it sure beat MLG's Arena event. The invitationals that DH holds has like maybe 2 top players (or not even) and the events are always a success to me. | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On March 23 2012 01:50 Eee wrote: Here's a picture of the venue where the event is going to be held at: ![[image loading]](http://www.idrottensaffarer.se/files/imagecache/image_large/story_image_large/Globen_0.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.sweclockers.com/imagebank/200903/Globen001.jpg?t=articleFull&k=8d11ec9b) what the hell do you play in that globe?? BLITZBALL!? | ||
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Intact
Sweden634 Posts
On March 23 2012 15:47 sc14s wrote: what the hell do you play in that globe?? BLITZBALL!? It is a hockey arena originally, but it can be adapted to host anything from track and field to music conserts. | ||
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RayBeans
Germany331 Posts
On March 23 2012 09:58 KaptenCulpa wrote: DO you realy think the top 8 europeans will rather pay to go to Stockholm or take the free trip to NYC. Same with the Koreans, and top 8 from winter championship. Im afraid where gonna have the korean b team and some good swedes. MLG fing up 2 big european events in a row is not ok. I don't understand what you are talking about? Is there a MLG event on the same weekend (21-22.04.12) as the Dreamhack? Just asking because I can't find any information on the mlg page about it. If not, wth are you talking about? If an event is happening at the same time, you are right, it will definitly affect both tournaments negatively because they have to "fight" to get the best players. But on the other way this could turn out to be good for the players, because the tournament hosters have to offer free trips or other benefits to convince players to attend their tournament. | ||
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Azhrak
Finland1196 Posts
On March 23 2012 16:59 RayBeans wrote: Is there a MLG event on the same weekend (21-22.04.12) as the Dreamhack? Yeah. One of the two MLG Spring Arenas is on Aplril 20-22 as DreamHack Open Stockholm is on 21-22. See MLG's post. Second Spring Arena is on May 18-20. If DreamHack is going to go with the open signup, starting on March 27th, as they say, they will have some trouble getting all the big names in. However, I think they will invite players to join even before the 27th, and make the players accepting invites to promise they won't try to qualify for the MLG. Remember that the MLG Spring Arena is for qualified players only, like the Winter Arena was. DreamHack has the advantage that it's far more appealing for a player to get a guaranteed spot from a big tournament rather than leaving it on a chance by going through a qualification tournament (top 8 from each region qualify as far as I know). | ||
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CrugerDK
Denmark323 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On March 23 2012 18:13 Azhrak wrote: Yeah. MLG Spring Arena is on Aplril 20-22 as DreamHack Open Stockholm is on 21-22. See MLG's post. If DreamHack is going to go with the open signup, starting on March 27th, as they say, they will have some trouble getting all the big names in. However, I think they will invite players to join even before the 27th, and make the players accepting invites to promise they won't try to qualify for the MLG. Remember that the MLG Spring Arena is for qualified players only, like the Winter Arena was. DreamHack has the advantage that it's far more appealing for a player to get a guaranteed spot from a big tournament rather than leaving it on a chance by going through a qualification tournament (top 8 from each region qualify as far as I know). I find it hard to believe there will be more than a handful on non TL/EG/Other foreign team koreans at DH. Even at DH Winter with 60k+ dollar prize pool there was like...... 2 (DRG and Genius was the only ones?) there. With not even half the prize money, I dont see why Koreans would bother flying there, kinda like Assembly (which got two Koreans: Polt and Lucky). Im hoping Im wrong, but I wouldnt expect more than 2-4 Koreans to show up apart from the normal ones (Hero, Puma, etc). This will likely be a mostly 80-90% European affair with the odd Korean/NA player to spice things up. Koreans havent really showed much interested in DH before and likely wont now either. Also, dont forget that travel expenses are still large, MLG barely got any Koreans either until they (or GSL) started paying travel costs. DH doesnt do that, and as such, it's incredibly unlikely DH Stockholm will have anything near the MLG Arena in terms of competitive player pool. Its too bad, but Im just being realistic. | ||
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Azhrak
Finland1196 Posts
On March 23 2012 18:50 Kreb wrote: ... kinda like Assembly (which got two Koreans: Polt and Lucky). Count again, please. (Edit: Sorry, 3 non-foreign team Koreans like you said.) + Show Spoiler + HerO, JYP, ReaL, Polt, PuMa, TaeJa, Moon, Lucky, Phoenix (+ SeleCT) = 9 Koreans It's true that travel and accommodation costs covered, MLG seems really good, as long as you can qualify. It's not an easy task, and some might take the easier route and just go to DH which has no qualification tournaments. MLG surely will have at least 8 good players from the Korean qualifier, and the top 8 from NA from the NA qualifier. But with the EU qualifier, we might see the same thing that happened with Assembly, most of the top EU players weren't even in the qualifier since they already got a spot at Assembly. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
Ill give you Taeja though, so make it 3, not 2. Though he also had his trip paid for him, so my point about Koreans barely ever going unless someone pays for them still stands. | ||
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