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DreamHack EIZO Open Stockholm - April 21-22, 2012 - Page 6

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dignitasNewmaN
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 16:11:29
March 23 2012 13:45 GMT
#101
Prize distribution at Dreamhack has "always" been quite horribly top heavy, not sure why to be fair as they know about the criticism and just because the invitationals where even worse doesn't make it excusable.

Paying out to atleast the top 8 or 16 should be possible in my opinion.
Team Dignitas Founder & Communications Director - @dignitasNewmaN on twitter.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
March 23 2012 14:28 GMT
#102
On March 23 2012 22:45 dignitasNewmaN wrote:
Prize distribution at Dreamhack has "always" been quite horibbly top heavy, not sure why to be fair as they know about the criticism and just because the invitationals where even worse doesn't make it excusable.

Paying out to atleast the top 8 or 16 should be possible in my opinion.


Yeah absolutely.

The venue looks fantastic, I really do hope that it will be as awesome as the Dreamhack Winter Arena and that we have a huge crowd! Gogo Sweden!

So far I always regarded Cologne as Europe's capital of esport (EPS finals, IEM, headoffice of ESL etc.) but with this event Stockholm might become the number 1!
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 14:45:52
March 23 2012 14:41 GMT
#103
Well, the invitationals started at Ro8, and it makes sense to force some kind of effort to get into the money. Paying both 1st and 2nd there would possibly have made more sense than only winner, but I dont think you can start paying Ro4 or Ro8 when they start at Ro8. There has to be some effort involved.

But yea, with 128ppl I dont see why Top8 shouldnt be rewarded. There will be a lot of fluff in the bracket no doubt, so paying top 16 or 32 shouldnt be necessary only because its a big bracket, but players making it past two group stages and one Ro16 game should definitely be rewarded imo.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 23 2012 15:12 GMT
#104
i dont understand... so i can pay money if want to support dreamhack, but dreamhack wont ever take my money but give it to some random person? so i will not support dreamhack? so why should i pay?
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
March 23 2012 15:38 GMT
#105
On March 24 2012 00:12 Heimatloser wrote:
i dont understand... so i can pay money if want to support dreamhack, but dreamhack wont ever take my money but give it to some random person? so i will not support dreamhack? so why should i pay?


If by some random person you mean one of the players participating, then yes.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
March 23 2012 16:22 GMT
#106
Props for using Flattr that's a nice initiative. Swedish people always on top of what's going on in the interwebs !
twitter@RickyMarou
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
March 23 2012 16:29 GMT
#107
Yeah. Just loving DH!
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
March 23 2012 16:36 GMT
#108
Doesn't get way as much recognition as MLG does. But i guess it's just because it isn't american ^^
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 16:41:34
March 23 2012 16:38 GMT
#109
On March 23 2012 01:25 DreamHack wrote:

DreamHack Open Prize money distribution
SEK 150 000

1. SEK 70 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012
2. SEK 40 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012
3. SEK 20 000 +20 points
4. SEK 20 000 +20 points
5-8. 12 points
9-16. 5 points



Take 10K from First and Second place and 5K from Third and Fourth. Then:

1. SEK 60 000
2. SEK 30 000
3. SEK 15 000
4. SEK 15 000
5-8. SEK 5 000
9-16. SEK 2 500

Or if there is actually a third / fourth place play off then take 2 500 SEK from Fourth and give it to Third. I do not understand this let's not play Third place matches mentality in some tourneys when you already have the players there and will already be paying them. The 3rd place match at IEM Kiev between Kas and Zenio was the best match of the tournament.
@followMVT
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
March 23 2012 16:48 GMT
#110
On March 23 2012 15:47 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:50 Eee wrote:
Here's a picture of the venue where the event is going to be held at:
[image loading]
[image loading]

what the hell do you play in that globe?? BLITZBALL!?


Haha, I wish :D

On March 23 2012 20:52 DarKFoRcE wrote:
128 player tournament... top4 gets paid, as if sc2 didnt have enough variance already
also, why give all donations to ONE player instead of distributing it according to voting percentages for example? (and discard everything below 1% or w/e else is too small to make it practical).


Agree with both points - I really dislike this kind of prize distribution and the fan award thing is pretty silly as well. If you can't raise enough money to pay at least the top 16 (preferably far more in this case) then I'm not sure how you can expect to fill 128 slots with paying participants.
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
flagg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden123 Posts
March 23 2012 16:52 GMT
#111
On March 24 2012 01:38 MVTaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:25 DreamHack wrote:

DreamHack Open Prize money distribution
SEK 150 000

1. SEK 70 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012
2. SEK 40 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012
3. SEK 20 000 +20 points
4. SEK 20 000 +20 points
5-8. 12 points
9-16. 5 points



Take 10K from First and Second place and 5K from Third and Fourth. Then:

1. SEK 60 000
2. SEK 30 000
3. SEK 15 000
4. SEK 15 000
5-8. SEK 5 000
9-16. SEK 2 500

Or if there is actually a third / fourth place play off then take 2 500 SEK from Fourth and give it to Third. I do not understand this let's not play Third place matches mentality in some tourneys when you already have the players there and will already be paying them. The 3rd place match at IEM Kiev between Kas and Zenio was the best match of the tournament.


Of course this is what they should do and I hope they can/want to change it.

Sadly people keep talking about how much the winner got and not about the total pricepool as they should. Dreamhack is leading the way in many areas but in this case they are sadly the worst.
Sablar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden880 Posts
March 23 2012 17:44 GMT
#112
Awesome. Been to annexet a few times for concerts and it's a good arena, not huge but pretty big Also free HD stream is great.
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
March 23 2012 18:41 GMT
#113
This looks awesome! Free HD stream?! Heck yes!
HuK <3 WhiteRa <3 Grubby <3 TLO <3 Day[9] <3
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
March 23 2012 18:42 GMT
#114
Yesss Dreamhackkk
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
March 23 2012 18:45 GMT
#115
so if i want to participate, which pass do i have to buy?
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
March 23 2012 18:48 GMT
#116
On March 23 2012 15:47 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:50 Eee wrote:
Here's a picture of the venue where the event is going to be held at:
[image loading]
[image loading]

what the hell do you play in that globe?? BLITZBALL!?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you sir, are awesome.
HuK <3 WhiteRa <3 Grubby <3 TLO <3 Day[9] <3
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
March 23 2012 19:19 GMT
#117
On March 24 2012 01:52 flagg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 01:38 MVTaylor wrote:
On March 23 2012 01:25 DreamHack wrote:

DreamHack Open Prize money distribution
SEK 150 000

1. SEK 70 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012
2. SEK 40 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012
3. SEK 20 000 +20 points
4. SEK 20 000 +20 points
5-8. 12 points
9-16. 5 points



Take 10K from First and Second place and 5K from Third and Fourth. Then:

1. SEK 60 000
2. SEK 30 000
3. SEK 15 000
4. SEK 15 000
5-8. SEK 5 000
9-16. SEK 2 500

Or if there is actually a third / fourth place play off then take 2 500 SEK from Fourth and give it to Third. I do not understand this let's not play Third place matches mentality in some tourneys when you already have the players there and will already be paying them. The 3rd place match at IEM Kiev between Kas and Zenio was the best match of the tournament.


Of course this is what they should do and I hope they can/want to change it.

Sadly people keep talking about how much the winner got and not about the total pricepool as they should. Dreamhack is leading the way in many areas but in this case they are sadly the worst.


Yeah, if you look at who finished 9-16th at DH summer and winter last year you have names such as: Sheth, Seiplo, Naama, Brat_OK and even a guy who I've never heard of called PredY. Just giving them something for getting to the RO16 seems reasonable to me as I want to see all these players making some money for it so more players stay in SC2 and can make a career out of it rather than ALL the money going to the same few people. It's why I like the set up of IEM so much.
@followMVT
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
March 23 2012 20:40 GMT
#118
WOW this is going to be awesome for sure, looking forward to it!!
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
March 23 2012 20:59 GMT
#119
wow, that arena looks fucking awesome GJ dreamhack!
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
Nomili
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway20 Posts
March 23 2012 22:54 GMT
#120
Looks freaking sweet!
It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, rather than open it and remove all doubt. – Abraham Lincoln
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