• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:01
CEST 14:01
KST 21:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format12[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!3Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? BGE Stara Zagora to be held again in June 2025 Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Yamato Cup Series
Tourneys
WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Etiquete rules in Asl? Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6907 users

[IEM] World - Day 5 @ CeBIT - Page 46

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 114 Next
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
March 10 2012 12:18 GMT
#901
On March 10 2012 21:17 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:15 GwSC wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:14 0ne wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:14 Hypemeup wrote:
Outclassed.

Outplayed ;P


They are interchangeable on these forums

You have to say both after every single game.

You have to say " he's just on another level" too


It's funny because it's true.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 12:19:00
March 10 2012 12:18 GMT
#902
sc2 ESL Polen 1477
sc2 GoodGame.ru 4837
sc2 IEM Hannover SC2 43467
sc2 Mori 2125
sc2 SC2TV 2750
ESLFrance 4977

59,5k gogo
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
March 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#903
On March 10 2012 21:17 ftd.rain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:15 Azzur wrote:
Not sure why MC felt the need to go all-in... he had the better of the opening

The tanks will be useless in the endgame... all MC needed to do was go defensive on 3-base

Less workers and down a base, he had to allin because he misinterpreted puma's position.

True, but his unit composition was really good. If he just tried to take a third himself, got upgrades, he probably wouldn't have been in that bad of a position.

Puma's Tank/Marine mix fairs really poorly later in the game, whilst MC's unit comp was exactly what he wanted
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 12:20:01
March 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#904
mc didnt have to attack. as soon as you see siege tank, get a colossus out and take a 3rd is a more solid option i think

i like FE=>tank openings in tvp tho. its so great lately since most toss players push quickly with sentry timings
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
March 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#905
On March 10 2012 21:18 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:16 babysimba wrote:
Wow. Terrans really need to start innovating new builds that involve tanks for defence without being too far behind in upgrades. Tanks seem like a reliable way to defend against gateway pushes.


Pretty sure the way that fight went was a result of MC's poor execution more than it was a result of tanks being good.

I think siege tanks are pretty sound vs those types of pushes, but MC definetely should've won once puma sent half of his army away.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
March 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#906
On March 10 2012 21:18 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:15 xrapture wrote:
I like the new tank builds mma and puma have showed.

You make tanks to make yourself immune to 3 gate/5 gate/ 6 gate and to also force your opponent to panic by cutting probes, delaying 3rd, and delaying tech.

Then you just transition into normal bio.


I'm not sure if it's any good against greedy protoss though. You can't harass for a long time, nor is the composition any good once protoss gets power units out.


that's the thing.

u can pull scvs and just go at any moment. if u see double forge or a 3rd it's an option.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#907
On March 10 2012 21:18 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:17 0ne wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:15 GwSC wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:14 0ne wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:14 Hypemeup wrote:
Outclassed.

Outplayed ;P


They are interchangeable on these forums

You have to say both after every single game.

You have to say " he's just on another level" too


It's funny because it's true.


That, combined with crediting one player for the other player doing stupid things, is what frustrates me about commentary sometimes.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 12:20:26
March 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#908
On March 10 2012 21:18 Swiv wrote:
sc2 ESL Polen 1477
sc2 GoodGame.ru 4837
sc2 IEM Hannover SC2 43467
sc2 Mori 2125
sc2 SC2TV 2750
ESLFrance 4977

59,5k gogo

around 60K + people at the event (around 5k ?)

toldya
T H C makes ppl happy
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
March 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#909
On March 10 2012 21:18 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:17 ftd.rain wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:15 Azzur wrote:
Not sure why MC felt the need to go all-in... he had the better of the opening

The tanks will be useless in the endgame... all MC needed to do was go defensive on 3-base

Less workers and down a base, he had to allin because he misinterpreted puma's position.

He had observers - how do you mis-interpret?

By not seeing it till too late, MC cut probes and when he actually saw the third base he was already behind 6 workers.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
March 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#910
MC will beat the code beta player. Also, 43K for the SC2 finals!!?? Wow, such an awful result.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#911
On March 10 2012 21:18 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:15 xrapture wrote:
I like the new tank builds mma and puma have showed.

You make tanks to make yourself immune to 3 gate/5 gate/ 6 gate and to also force your opponent to panic by cutting probes, delaying 3rd, and delaying tech.

Then you just transition into normal bio.


I'm not sure if it's any good against greedy protoss though. You can't harass for a long time, nor is the composition any good once protoss gets power units out.


Against "greedy protoss" you just transition to 1-1-1.
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
March 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#912
On March 10 2012 21:18 Swiv wrote:
sc2 ESL Polen 1477
sc2 GoodGame.ru 4837
sc2 IEM Hannover SC2 43467
sc2 Mori 2125
sc2 SC2TV 2750
ESLFrance 4977

59,5k gogo

These are good numbers, i think it would be more than 100k if finals were at 10pm CET
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#913
comon MC!!!
moo...for DRG
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
March 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#914
On March 10 2012 21:19 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:18 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:15 xrapture wrote:
I like the new tank builds mma and puma have showed.

You make tanks to make yourself immune to 3 gate/5 gate/ 6 gate and to also force your opponent to panic by cutting probes, delaying 3rd, and delaying tech.

Then you just transition into normal bio.


I'm not sure if it's any good against greedy protoss though. You can't harass for a long time, nor is the composition any good once protoss gets power units out.


that's the thing.

u can pull scvs and just go at any moment. if u see double forge or a 3rd it's an option.


I meant this :
On March 10 2012 21:19 MorroW wrote:
mc didnt have to attack. as soon as you see siege tank, get a colossus out and take a 3rd is a more solid option i think

i like FE=>tank openings in tvp tho. its so great lately since most toss players push quickly with sentry timings

https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
March 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#915
On March 10 2012 21:20 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:18 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:15 xrapture wrote:
I like the new tank builds mma and puma have showed.

You make tanks to make yourself immune to 3 gate/5 gate/ 6 gate and to also force your opponent to panic by cutting probes, delaying 3rd, and delaying tech.

Then you just transition into normal bio.


I'm not sure if it's any good against greedy protoss though. You can't harass for a long time, nor is the composition any good once protoss gets power units out.


Against "greedy protoss" you just transition to 1-1-1.

But how do you tell? Do you just purely rely on that SCV scout? If it gets denied then aren't you in a bad position?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#916
On March 10 2012 21:20 ftd.rain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 21:18 Azzur wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:17 ftd.rain wrote:
On March 10 2012 21:15 Azzur wrote:
Not sure why MC felt the need to go all-in... he had the better of the opening

The tanks will be useless in the endgame... all MC needed to do was go defensive on 3-base

Less workers and down a base, he had to allin because he misinterpreted puma's position.

He had observers - how do you mis-interpret?

By not seeing it till too late, MC cut probes and when he actually saw the third base he was already behind 6 workers.


Yeah. That, combined with MULEs from 3 OCs, makes it really hard to compete with the economy of Puma.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
March 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#917
buuh observer. MC just lost a stalker and I could only watch it on the minimap.
keep it deep! @zulison
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
March 10 2012 12:23 GMT
#918
That pylon was a bait
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
March 10 2012 12:23 GMT
#919
Come on MC!
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
March 10 2012 12:23 GMT
#920
ffields working against MC

lol
T H C makes ppl happy
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 114 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Qualifier
12:00
Summer Cup, Qualifier #1
WardiTV80
Liquipedia
CrankTV Team League
11:00
Crank Gathers S4: Group Stage
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
09:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 14
CranKy Ducklings118
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko355
SortOf 152
DenverSC2 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 9087
Sea 1687
Horang2 615
Bisu 533
Jaedong 437
BeSt 423
EffOrt 332
Soma 208
Mini 189
Snow 188
[ Show more ]
actioN 160
Zeus 158
Light 143
Last 130
Soulkey 110
Larva 64
JYJ 63
Rush 52
Pusan 50
ToSsGirL 43
hero 36
Killer 34
sorry 31
Sexy 28
JulyZerg 28
Sharp 27
Bale 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
HiyA 14
Barracks 13
Yoon 11
Sacsri 11
IntoTheRainbow 7
Dota 2
Gorgc5780
XcaliburYe110
League of Legends
Doublelift2026
Counter-Strike
markeloff86
Other Games
singsing993
B2W.Neo437
crisheroes354
DeMusliM222
XaKoH 137
OGKoka 136
Sick132
Happy123
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2456
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1124
Other Games
BasetradeTV166
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 131
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP108
• StrangeGG 65
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2239
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
20h 59m
CrankTV Team League
22h 59m
WardiTV Qualifier
23h 59m
Epic.LAN
1d
Replay Cast
1d 11h
RSL Revival
1d 20h
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 21h
Epic.LAN
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
IPSL
3 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-13
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.