[IEM] WC - Day 1 @ ceBiT - Page 8

On March 06 2012 10:19 rasnj wrote:

It seems IEM provides accommodation. Idra complained, Thorzain agreed ESL accommodation could be lousy. Nazgul commented on IEM's troubles. This would all be very strange if teams themselves provided accommodation.

The reason given for accommodation of this sort is that cebit is going on which according to people in the now closed Idra twitter complaint thread means you need to book months in advance and prices see over 1000% increase.

I have stayed at several cheap hotels in Germany and they all looked considerably better than this. Of course this wasn't during CeBIT (or near Hannover).

On March 06 2012 12:08 morbvs wrote:


Well, I live near Hannover and I have never seen a room like that. It is almost hard to believe that this could possibly be in germany^^

I mean these are pictures of prison cells in germany ->

http://www.nw-news.de/_em_daten/_dpa/2009/12/21/091221_1825_jva3.jpg low level security obviously...

http://www.planet-wissen.de/politik_geschichte/verbrechensbekaempfung/gefaengnis/img/portraet_gefaeng_zelle_g.jpg

On March 06 2012 14:19 Elem wrote:
I would def sit in that room if it meant going to the IEM World Championships, lol. They should man up and stop acting like superstars, sc2 isn't that big yet.

I had similar I went to Germany and Denmark for 2 tournaments in wc3 and it didn't bother me one bit >_>'

On March 06 2012 14:42 jmbthirteen wrote:

Are you kidding me? Man up? They got put in shit rooms. These guys all worked hard and qualified for this tournament.

Asking for a normal hotel isn't acting like superstars. The place they are staying it is a joke. Come on ESL, thats just embarrassing.

On March 06 2012 14:48 Elem wrote:
They should be happy they get a place from ESL at all, to be honest. I would be happy with even having a sink in the room and not having to go outside of it, all you need is a reasonably comfortable bed, a window, and something to connect any phones or similar to.

I think progamers are being a bit spoiled (not saying the viewers aren't, for example) when it comes to trivial things like this. If there was a nutrition-related problem or something it'd be ok but really no need to cause a shitstorm aimed at ESL considering they actually supplied anything at all.

On March 06 2012 14:55 jmbthirteen wrote:

I'm sorry, but thats just bullshit. Providing a standard hotel (you know one with a toilet and shower in it) isn't being spoiled. Its fucking standard. I would never put anyone in a place like that. Its worse than my college dorm room. A motel 6 is way better than that and is cheap as hell too.

On March 06 2012 14:48 Elem wrote:
They should be happy they get a place from ESL at all, to be honest. I would be happy with even having a sink in the room and not having to go outside of it, all you need is a reasonably comfortable bed, a window, and something to connect any phones or similar to.

I think progamers are being a bit spoiled (not saying the viewers aren't, for example) when it comes to trivial things like this. If there was a nutrition-related problem or something it'd be ok but really no need to cause a shitstorm aimed at ESL considering they actually supplied anything at all.

On March 06 2012 15:05 Duravi wrote:

They had to qualify for this tournament, it is not like ESL just brought them there out of the kindness of their hearts. When a Motel 6 or a prison cell look like luxury living in comparison to the rooms they got it is embarrassing for IEM and SC2 fans.

On March 06 2012 15:05 Elem wrote:
You shouldnt think in terms of "hotel" but simply "a place to rest at". You should not expect or demand more. They should be happy enough to be there at all, anything else is just icing on the cake.

And too many people expect not only icing at all, but more icing than cake.

On March 06 2012 15:10 jmbthirteen wrote:

Except when every single other tournament provides a normal hotel, you should expect and demand more. IEM completely dropped the ball here. Happy enough to be there? They all qualified for it. IEM should be happy they are there. A normal hotel room is not icing on the cake. Its standard. Its a fucking joke that IEM is actually putting players in those rooms.

On March 06 2012 15:08 openbox1 wrote:
place your bets. Idra premature GG? yes/no?

On March 06 2012 15:18 Elem wrote:
IEM does not need to spoil the players because the other organisers does that. IIRC koreans had complaints about rooms better than that when at Dreamhack Summer for example.

And NO. IEM should not be happy that the players are there. The players should be glad they are qualified for such a high profile tournament. I find it amusing how players can complain about something trivial like this and think so highly of themselves but then are completely fine with how they are treated by teams and sponsors in other parts (I'm sure TT1 for example will understand what I mean with that.)''

Overall, its wrong in the first place to expect a place to live at. If it was something you should actually expect ofc this would be a massive scandal. But as it isn't, they should not complain.

Besides its really silly to flood a LR thread with this, if people wish to discuss it so much a new thread should be made.

On March 06 2012 15:35 jmbthirteen wrote:

Once again, a standard hotel room is not spoiling players. IEM needs to step it up. They have had multiple issues this year with running their tournaments with bad rules and such. They really aren't putting a strong case together for the players to continue to go to IEMs.

And its not even that we are expecting IEM to provide hotels to stay in. IEM chose to do this. MLG (for Championship events) doesn't provide hotels and thats fine. IPL provides some players rooms, but not all and thats fine. IEM doesn't provide travel accommodations for their normal events either. But when IEM decides to provide a place to stay, they need to meet the standards that are set by every tournament.

When I see a "hotel" room that players are staying in and its worse quality than prisons, something is wrong. There is no way around it. You want players to be at their best for your tournament. No player will be at their best staying in those rooms.

On March 06 2012 15:39 Elem wrote:
The players could have declined their offer. I sincerely doubt the availability of a paid room would make or break whether they would attend the event or not.