EPTOn March 06 2012 03:33 trinxified wrote:
Protoss tournament here...
Protoss tournament here...
Its not that uneven. There are 11 Protoss out of 24. At least one race is usually a bit overrepresented.
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
Its not that uneven. There are 11 Protoss out of 24. At least one race is usually a bit overrepresented. | ||
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Zealot Orgy
United Kingdom537 Posts
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On March 06 2012 08:08 marcesr wrote: So Idra asks on his twitter if anyone knows a PC cafe in Hannover so that he can practice. Seriously IEM??!! ... The venue isn't even open yet so how can you expect anyone to get in? IEM starts tomorrow - no one should be there in the first place. Players need to be able to find their own practice environments before the tournament itself. | ||
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
On March 06 2012 08:19 JBright wrote: ... The venue isn't even open yet so how can you expect anyone to get in? IEM starts tomorrow - no one should be there in the first place. Players need to be able to find their own practice environments before the tournament itself. He asked for a place to practice for tomorrow when the tournament already started. f you organize a tournament this big and with the ambitions the ESL always proclaims you should take care of a solution. It should be pretty obvious that players flying in from all over the world are not always able to find a place to practice in a completely foreign city. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On March 06 2012 08:08 marcesr wrote: So Idra asks on his twitter if anyone knows a PC cafe in Hannover so that he can practice. Seriously IEM??!! how dumb are you? this happens before every tournament. before IPL 3 huk, white-ra and others hired a pc room and stayed there a couple of days. before dreamhack winter naniwa, ret, haypro, hero and others all boot camped in Stockholm at inferno online. tournament organizers have no obligation to provide practice environment to players before tournaments, and the only tournaments that've done it from what I know are the dreamhack invitationals. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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Beastyqt
Serbia516 Posts
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On March 06 2012 08:30 marcesr wrote: He asked for a place to practice for tomorrow when the tournament already started. f you organize a tournament this big and with the ambitions the ESL always proclaims you should take care of a solution. It should be pretty obvious that players flying in from all over the world are not always able to find a place to practice in a completely foreign city. Right, but that's if he only found out about going to Hanover just last week or something. Idra was the winner of IEM Guangzhou, so he pretty much knew he would be there since October. You would think that he could have done some simple trip planning with all that time to prepare? Tournament organizers are only expected to provide just enough computers for the competition itself. Any more and it is a bonus. Sometimes you can get lucky and it will be held at Kiev (major LAN center where there are tons of extra PCs) but asking for ,what, ~30 computers at a tradeshow just for practice is unreasonable (space constraints). You couldn't possibly be asking for 1 extra computer just so Idra can practice right? | ||
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
On March 06 2012 08:46 Marcus420 wrote: looks.... cozy? xD Zenio Supernova lol why are most pc gamers such brats? check out other huge tournaments in the arcade genre like Evo, the players sleeping arrangements are a non issue... a lot of them end up sleeping in the bathtub or under the sink. if you're an ocd freak who doesn't sleep unless you're tucked in with your favourite blanket and a couple of fluffed up pillows, then it sucks to be you. complaining about the accommodations and conditions etc is fine, but i do not like hearing criticism aimed at the tournament hosts.... are they meant to book these nerds into 5 star hotels??? hell, why not get them a chauffeur and a limo as well... they play starcraft and get a few thousand people tuned into their stream so surely they deserve to be treated like royalty!!! User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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walklightwhat
Australia752 Posts
On March 06 2012 09:06 shizna wrote: lol why are most pc gamers such brats? check out other huge tournaments in the arcade genre like Evo, the players sleeping arrangements are a non issue... a lot of them end up sleeping in the bathtub or under the sink. if you're an ocd freak who doesn't sleep unless you're tucked in with your favourite blanket and a couple of fluffed up pillows, then it sucks to be you. complaining about the accommodations and conditions etc is fine, but i do not like hearing criticism aimed at the tournament hosts.... are they meant to book these nerds into 5 star hotels??? hell, why not get them a chauffeur and a limo as well... they play starcraft and get a few thousand people tuned into their stream so surely they deserve to be treated like royalty!!! I think there is a rather large range between a 5 star hotel and... 'rooms' that are smaller than prison cells. | ||
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
On March 06 2012 09:09 walklightwhat wrote: I think there is a difference between a 5 star hotel and... 'rooms' that are smaller than prison cells. you're not meant to sit in your room for most of the day like a troglodyte.... therefore your 'room' could be a 6-foot-long cardboard box with a heating system and still be practical. | ||
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
On March 06 2012 08:52 JBright wrote: Right, but that's if he only found out about going to Hanover just last week or something. Idra was the winner of IEM Guangzhou, so he pretty much knew he would be there since October. You would think that he could have done some simple trip planning with all that time to prepare? Tournament organizers are only expected to provide just enough computers for the competition itself. Any more and it is a bonus. Sometimes you can get lucky and it will be held at Kiev (major LAN center where there are tons of extra PCs) but asking for ,what, ~30 computers at a tradeshow just for practice is unreasonable (space constraints). You couldn't possibly be asking for 1 extra computer just so Idra can practice right? Well...the ESL rents a HUGE space at cebit (world's largest computer expo, I can only imagine what that costs) which I really respect and give them a lot of credit for! However at the same time they fail at such an easy thing, I mean you could just rent a room somewhere and set up some computers for players to practice or I dont know. But if you spend hundreds of thousands of € on such a tournament you should do your very best to provide the best possible conditions to the players! | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On March 06 2012 09:06 shizna wrote: lol why are most pc gamers such brats? check out other huge tournaments in the arcade genre like Evo, the players sleeping arrangements are a non issue... a lot of them end up sleeping in the bathtub or under the sink. if you're an ocd freak who doesn't sleep unless you're tucked in with your favourite blanket and a couple of fluffed up pillows, then it sucks to be you. complaining about the accommodations and conditions etc is fine, but i do not like hearing criticism aimed at the tournament hosts.... are they meant to book these nerds into 5 star hotels??? hell, why not get them a chauffeur and a limo as well... they play starcraft and get a few thousand people tuned into their stream so surely they deserve to be treated like royalty!!! Always amusing hearing people whine uncontrollably about other being complaining. Lol at you calling other people "brats", that's exactly how you're acting. You can criticize them without acting like a twelve year old. | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On March 06 2012 08:46 Marcus420 wrote: looks.... cozy? xD Zenio Supernova Welcome to IEM Jailhouse. | ||
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morbvs
Germany358 Posts
Question is wether IEM actually has anything to do with the choice of hotels or if they maybe just provide transport to the venue and the teams choose the hotels... I have never seen anything like that in germany. This looks like a youth hostel and not a good one too. I highly doubt the ESL would force all the players to book into something like that. A normal reasonably priced city hotel, what I strongly assume they would use, looks very different... But I don't know, so I could be wrong. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On March 06 2012 09:59 morbvs wrote: Question is wether IEM actually has anything to do with the choice of hotels or if they maybe just provide transport to the venue and the teams choose the hotels... I have never seen anything like that in germany. This looks like a youth hostel and not a good one too. I highly doubt the ESL would force all the players to book into something like that. A normal reasonably priced city hotel, what I strongly assume they would use, looks very different... But I don't know, so I could be wrong. It seems IEM provides accommodation. Idra complained, Thorzain agreed ESL accommodation could be lousy. Nazgul commented on IEM's troubles. This would all be very strange if teams themselves provided accommodation. The reason given for accommodation of this sort is that cebit is going on which according to people in the now closed Idra twitter complaint thread means you need to book months in advance and prices see over 1000% increase. I have stayed at several cheap hotels in Germany and they all looked considerably better than this. Of course this wasn't during CeBIT (or near Hannover). | ||
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Benjamin80
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haha it actually looks like a prison cell | ||
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