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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
March 06 2012 17:56 GMT
#2521
On March 07 2012 02:39 cyclone4tw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:36 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.


Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?

Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.


I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive.


If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


None of the fights in any of the games were even.

The guy with more stuff won all three games all the point of the a moving.


If you only saw a-move during those fights ... now I see why you think PvP = luck.

Anyway, what about Blizzard maintenance from tomorrow? Battle.net will be offline until 11:00am. IEM is supposed to start at 9:10am.

It was all a-move beyond basic positioning that should be expected of every pro....
Dodge arrows
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
March 06 2012 17:58 GMT
#2522
On March 07 2012 02:54 nvs. wrote:
Haha just woke up and saw it was Nerchio vs. half of Aiur.

Well, Aiur got this one
MeFAT
Profile Joined March 2012
17 Posts
March 06 2012 17:59 GMT
#2523
I think I heard a caster said "Elfi is the best PvP player in the world". That is so immature for a caster. By looking at the results of the 3 players that got out of the group, they all beat each other, except Elfi is the only one that lost 3 games against the other two players, each lost 2 games. I'd say Elfi is the worst of the three.

Yeah, made account just for that.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 06 2012 18:00 GMT
#2524
On March 07 2012 02:47 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:45 Stanlot wrote:
Didn't notice this earlier but group c is a group of death :O


Group D won the vote because it has Idra.


It also had DRG instead of Darkforce.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 18:01 GMT
#2525
On March 07 2012 02:44 Vadrigar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:40 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:37 Champloo wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:34 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.


We are indeed very butthurt that Koreans took top 3 in Group A and top 1 in Group B. It was a bad day for Koreans indeed.


Just look at your last posts in this thread. You are totally butthurt.

Just look at your sig "oh that guy won the GSL multiple times, I'm gonna fanboy the shit outta him"


Well basically as a UK citizen we had only one UK player when I started watching and he plays Terran and was injured for a long time.

It will be a cold day in hell before I cheer for Americans, Germans, Frenchmen or other countries who are England's traditional rivals in all sports.

So I will cheer for the guys who play the best Starcraft and are from a country which my country has basically zero reason to every dislike or want to lose.



It's so easy to cheer for the best. I bet you're a fan of Manure Utd too.


Well I live in Manchester, so that doesn't count.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
March 06 2012 18:02 GMT
#2526
lol @ all the "coinflips" and "luck" from players whose ego can't accept losing to a slower APM player. Elfi must really have a golden horseshoe and a weighted coin. Ask someone like Whitera who doesn't have those kind of problems what he thinks about pvp and Elfi. Hell, ask even MC. More gg, less qq.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
March 06 2012 18:03 GMT
#2527
MMA 10-0

He needs to fuck up big time to not win this tournament ^^
MeFAT
Profile Joined March 2012
17 Posts
March 06 2012 18:03 GMT
#2528
On March 07 2012 02:47 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:45 Stanlot wrote:
Didn't notice this earlier but group c is a group of death :O


Group D won the vote because it has Idra.


Because 90% of people that watch SC2 are us Americans, that's why.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 18:06 GMT
#2529
On March 07 2012 03:03 MeFAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:47 Zzoram wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:45 Stanlot wrote:
Didn't notice this earlier but group c is a group of death :O


Group D won the vote because it has Idra.


Because 90% of people that watch SC2 are us Americans, that's why.


That's clearly not true if you look at TL posters as a guide. I don't think Americans are even half the viewers.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 06 2012 18:06 GMT
#2530
On March 07 2012 03:03 MeFAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:47 Zzoram wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:45 Stanlot wrote:
Didn't notice this earlier but group c is a group of death :O


Group D won the vote because it has Idra.


Because 90% of people on TL are Americans, that's why.

FYP
MeFAT
Profile Joined March 2012
17 Posts
March 06 2012 18:07 GMT
#2531
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.


Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?

Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.


I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive.


If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
March 06 2012 18:11 GMT
#2532
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.


Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?

Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.


I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive.


If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
March 06 2012 18:12 GMT
#2533
I wish BWChart would have never been invented. Whole APM-hype has been retarted ever since... Ppl rating players by their speed while its just one element of the gaming T_T...
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 06 2012 18:12 GMT
#2534
On March 07 2012 03:03 Daray wrote:
MMA 10-0

He needs to fuck up big time to not win this tournament ^^


MMA is just monstrous man.
Did he put the jacket on?
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#2535
On March 07 2012 03:12 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 03:03 Daray wrote:
MMA 10-0

He needs to fuck up big time to not win this tournament ^^


MMA is just monstrous man.
Did he put the jacket on?

IEM banned the jacket because it gave MMA super human gosu powers.
"let your freak flag fly"
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#2536
On March 07 2012 03:12 kroko wrote:
I wish BWChart would have never been invented. Whole APM-hype has been retarted ever since... Ppl rating players by their speed while its just one element of the gaming T_T...



so true. but how can u blame the fans, when even players like idra and huk keep on mentioning it.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
kobrakai
Profile Joined June 2011
175 Posts
March 06 2012 18:15 GMT
#2537
On March 07 2012 03:01 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:44 Vadrigar wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:40 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:37 Champloo wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:34 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.


We are indeed very butthurt that Koreans took top 3 in Group A and top 1 in Group B. It was a bad day for Koreans indeed.


Just look at your last posts in this thread. You are totally butthurt.

Just look at your sig "oh that guy won the GSL multiple times, I'm gonna fanboy the shit outta him"


Well basically as a UK citizen we had only one UK player when I started watching and he plays Terran and was injured for a long time.

It will be a cold day in hell before I cheer for Americans, Germans, Frenchmen or other countries who are England's traditional rivals in all sports.

So I will cheer for the guys who play the best Starcraft and are from a country which my country has basically zero reason to every dislike or want to lose.



It's so easy to cheer for the best. I bet you're a fan of Manure Utd too.


Well I live in Manchester, so that doesn't count.


Well all of the mancs I know have always supported City. So I guess it does count.
MeFAT
Profile Joined March 2012
17 Posts
March 06 2012 18:15 GMT
#2538
On March 07 2012 03:11 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.


Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?

Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.


I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive.


If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.


Well, the caster said Elfi is the best PvP player in the world and most on here think he's better than MC in PvP. But, out of the 3 players that played PvP against each other, Elfi has the worst win/loss ratio.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 06 2012 18:19 GMT
#2539
On March 07 2012 03:15 MeFAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 03:11 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.


Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?

Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.


I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive.


If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.


Well, the caster said Elfi is the best PvP player in the world and most on here think he's better than MC in PvP. But, out of the 3 players that played PvP against each other, Elfi has the worst win/loss ratio.


1) that was ironic to some extend
2) PvP stats group B:
elfi 3-1 (6-2)
MC 2-2 (6-4)
Hasu 2-2 (4-5)

counting is a nice skill toi have.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
McGregsen
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 18:20:06
March 06 2012 18:19 GMT
#2540
On March 07 2012 03:15 MeFAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 03:11 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.


Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?

Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.


I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive.


If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.


Well, the caster said Elfi is the best PvP player in the world and most on here think he's better than MC in PvP. But, out of the 3 players that played PvP against each other, Elfi has the worst win/loss ratio.


Like they were 100% serious with those statements... Is this the first cast of Rotterdam/MrBitter you are watching?
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