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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
March 06 2012 17:32 GMT
#2481
I haven't seen Elfi play much, but after today consider me a new fan.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
March 06 2012 17:32 GMT
#2482
On March 07 2012 02:29 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:26 tetracycloide wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.

How boring would this game be to watch if beating someone 'more skilled' was impossible though? Even the best of the best only have ~70% win rates and that's a very good thing.


Not boring at all, it would make the inevitable upset that much more meaningful. When Flash lost his 14-0 winning streak it was big. Foreigner upsets in PvP are so common its almost standard.

If upsets are inevitable then we're agreeing with one another, not disagreeing. When I said the best of the best only have ~70% win rates that includes Flash.
My vanity is justified
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
March 06 2012 17:33 GMT
#2483
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.


Group A: Korean top 3
Group B: Only Korean first place even in a group that's generally the most coinflippy of the matchups

??????????

So butthurt.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
ScrambledX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Finland296 Posts
March 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#2484
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.


This =)

User was warned for this post
http://sircom.blogspot.com/
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#2485
On March 07 2012 02:32 tetracycloide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:29 zefreak wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:26 tetracycloide wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.

How boring would this game be to watch if beating someone 'more skilled' was impossible though? Even the best of the best only have ~70% win rates and that's a very good thing.


Not boring at all, it would make the inevitable upset that much more meaningful. When Flash lost his 14-0 winning streak it was big. Foreigner upsets in PvP are so common its almost standard.

If upsets are inevitable then we're agreeing with one another, not disagreeing. When I said the best of the best only have ~70% win rates that includes Flash.


Inevitable when a better player comes along. Not inevitable because the matchup is impossible to win consistently in.
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TeveT
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden148 Posts
March 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#2486
Somehow I feel that this question has already been asked, but not sure if I can look through all pages to find the answer:

How come they end playing at 18? Isn't there another good 3 hours at least of playing time? Not that they would have time to finish all the games though... But still, I want more :s
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#2487
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.


We are indeed very butthurt that Koreans took top 3 in Group A and top 1 in Group B. It was a bad day for Koreans indeed.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
March 06 2012 17:35 GMT
#2488
On March 07 2012 02:32 KalWarkov wrote:
that hate from idra and huk on elfi @ twitter...
at least i have something to laugh about when idra loses tomorrow and keeps blaming the "terrible conditions" on it... and huk talking about pvp - HuK, who plays PvP like a fusion of InCa and BitbyBit, mixing 4 gate with dts and flipping the coin.


meh i kinda agree, huk and idra are a bunch of drama queens most of the time. huk not so much but idra is the biggest whiner of all the pro-gamers.
cyclone4tw
Profile Joined May 2008
Russian Federation32 Posts
March 06 2012 17:35 GMT
#2489
On March 07 2012 02:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.


Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?

Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.


I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive.


If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.
Demnogonis
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland80 Posts
March 06 2012 17:35 GMT
#2490
Holy crap, that was awesome. Gogogogo elfi!

And there's more to playing strategy games than mere execution. What a surprise.
This, I command!
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
March 06 2012 17:36 GMT
#2491
On March 07 2012 02:34 TeveT wrote:
Somehow I feel that this question has already been asked, but not sure if I can look through all pages to find the answer:

How come they end playing at 18? Isn't there another good 3 hours at least of playing time? Not that they would have time to finish all the games though... But still, I want more :s


because cebit closes doors at this time
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 17:37:16
March 06 2012 17:36 GMT
#2492
wait, doesnt nerchio have a 7-5 gamescore while hasuobs has a 6-5 gamescore?

EDIT: i cannot maths apparently, both are 6-5 ><
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 17:36 GMT
#2493
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.


Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?

Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.


I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive.


If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


None of the fights in any of the games were even.

The guy with more stuff won all three games all the point of the a moving.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
March 06 2012 17:36 GMT
#2494
On March 07 2012 02:33 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.


Group A: Korean top 3
Group B: Only Korean first place even in a group that's generally the most coinflippy of the matchups

??????????

So butthurt.


well look at the thread, whenever even one match went to a foreigner many people discredit them, and only because pvp is more volatile than other matchups does not mean it is a pure coinflip or meaningless to deduct skills, that is just degrading and disrespectful.

tho the bias is strong on all sides for that matter.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
March 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#2495
On March 07 2012 02:27 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:24 msjakofsky wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:19 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 msjakofsky wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:11 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:07 msjakofsky wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:01 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:00 msjakofsky wrote:

Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


didn't elfi destroy huk with those lightning speed hands? isn't it ironic


Not at all, he's mocking PvP, why would it be ironic that he lost in a matchup he thinks is stupid?


lol dude are you for real? he's mocking elfi and trying to belittle elfi's accomplishment as a good pvp player. what on earth justifies such bitter tweets while someone else is playing a really hard game?

he isn't funny and isn't even right.


Are you for real? Look at the last sentence: "pvp.."

As in, he thinks it's a joke that someone as slow as elfi can beat someone like MC.

Yes, he is mocking elfi, but it's not ironic because he's mocking the ridiculousness of PvP. He is superior in the other matchups because he is the superior player mechanically, but overall mechanics are not necessarily that important in PvP.


yeah you're right it's really classy to mock someone who kicked you're ass instead of recognizing that it's not all mechanics and elfi's really good at mindgames and game sense.

people like you give shit to goody too... i really hope elfi continues to beat the shit out of all your favorite protosses. yeah he's not that awesome at other matchups but his pvp is really world class, deal with it


What are you even ranting about lmao. "Deal with it" as if I care, I was correcting you about what Huk's intentions were with his statement. He beat my favorite player but MC is still first in the group, I couldn't care less.



and what the hell do you know about huk's intentions? it seems quite obvious that he is just bitter, and obviously you like huk better than elfi so you make an excuse for him.

or yeah you're right huk is just mocking the matchup which happens to be his worst, in which elfi beat his ass, and coincidentally he mocks elfi a little bit either, but this is all nice and good and justified because you like huk.


Sounds like you just like elfi lmao? What are you even talking about, when did I say Huk's not bitter? I was stating that it's not ironic that he mocked the matchup just because he lost to the person, because that's not the definition of ironic at all. I couldn't care less about elfi or Huk.


an ironic situation can be when someone says something, when in fact the opposite is true. you know when huk thinks his mechanics should give him an edge in pvp, while in fact elfi's other abilities gave elfi an edge vs huk. i see you're trying to be smart here but irony doesn't only mean that your intended meaning is the opposite of what you actually say.
oniman999
Profile Joined May 2011
United States169 Posts
March 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#2496
PvP is my least favorite match-up to watch, so I think tomorrow will be a better IEM day for me.
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
March 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#2497
On March 07 2012 02:36 ChriS-X wrote:
wait, doesnt nerchio have a 7-5 gamescore while hasuobs has a 6-5 gamescore?

no he dosnt he has 6-5 like hasu
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#2498
On March 07 2012 02:36 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:33 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.


Group A: Korean top 3
Group B: Only Korean first place even in a group that's generally the most coinflippy of the matchups

??????????

So butthurt.


well look at the thread, whenever even one match went to a foreigner many people discredit them, and only because pvp is more volatile than other matchups does not mean it is a pure coinflip or meaningless to deduct skills, that is just degrading and disrespectful.

tho the bias is strong on all sides for that matter.


No one is discrediting non PvP.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
March 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#2499
On March 07 2012 02:34 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.


We are indeed very butthurt that Koreans took top 3 in Group A and top 1 in Group B. It was a bad day for Koreans indeed.


Just look at your last posts in this thread. You are totally butthurt.

Just look at your sig "oh that guy won the GSL multiple times, I'm gonna fanboy the shit outta him"
TeveT
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden148 Posts
March 06 2012 17:38 GMT
#2500
On March 07 2012 02:36 pepe08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:34 TeveT wrote:
Somehow I feel that this question has already been asked, but not sure if I can look through all pages to find the answer:

How come they end playing at 18? Isn't there another good 3 hours at least of playing time? Not that they would have time to finish all the games though... But still, I want more :s


because cebit closes doors at this time


Okey, that explains it. Thanks
Too bad they play during the day when some people are working/at school... Well well, can't have everything i guess
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