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Finally a thrad for this!
The first 2 cups were awsome, i looking forward to the next one tomorrow!
and i think that this can get way more viewers, when it is ood promoted, Bitterdam should get more than 1k^^
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700€ for each of the cups is quite huge.
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On February 28 2012 02:17 Pyloss wrote:
and i think that this can get way more viewers, when it is ood promoted, Bitterdam should get more than 1k^^
Bitterdam had 5k+ viewers for the first cup, when it was promoted on the TL calendar. The second cup wasn't so they had only around 500 viewers.
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Am I wrong or is the next cup still not listed in the TL calender?
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You are right.
ESL needs to better advertise their products.
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Wait... were the past three seasons won by Socke, or only season three?
edit: and is this an invite only tournament? if so, then how can new players join if the invites are based upon past seasons? What about Phoenix and Real?
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On February 28 2012 05:18 JustPassingBy wrote: Wait... were the past three seasons won by Socke, or only season three?
edit: and is this an invite only tournament? if so, then how can new players join if the invites are based upon past seasons? What about Phoenix and Real? All three seasons were won by Socke. Technically it's open to anyone, I'm not sure why Phoenix doesn't play, but Real is or was at least temporary banned from ESL due to too many penality points. It was said that he will either return on the cup tomorrow or the one next week.
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On February 28 2012 05:18 JustPassingBy wrote: Wait... were the past three seasons won by Socke, or only season three?
edit: and is this an invite only tournament? if so, then how can new players join if the invites are based upon past seasons? What about Phoenix and Real?
the highest ranked players of the EAS (ESL amateur series) are also participating in the cups.
EAS is a ladder where you challenge people and then get points for wins and lose points for losses. its free for everyone living in germany/austria/switzerland/liechtenstein to join.
so theoretically everyone can participate
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The past three seasons were won by Socke (seasons 17-19) and I'd describe the tournament as semi-open because the invites are based on the placement in the current season. All EPS players are invited, as are the best (highest ranked) 20 players from the EAS (the league directly below the EPS). Now while there aren't any changes in the EPS during the season so the same 12 people will always be invited, it's quite different in the EAS: In addition to the 5 EPS/EAS cups, there is a ladder system for the EAS. By playing matches (outside of the cup) against other EAS players you can gain points and get a higher ranking on the laddder. So new players can work their way up to the EAS and to the cup-system although I don't know exactly how to get into the EAS in the first place (there are also some tiers below the EAS which you might have to go through first).
Regarding Real and Phoenix: Real currently seem to be in the 4th divisio of EAS and hasn't played a game yet. But I couldn't find Phoenix anywhere.
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The first two cups were awesome, although i doubted the new system I was convinced immediatly. For me it's the most fun season since wc3 so far Hope it will get 5k viewers or more again!
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On February 28 2012 05:42 Musicus wrote:The first two cups were awesome, although i doubted the new system I was convinced immediatly. For me it's the most fun season since wc3 so far  Hope it will get 5k viewers or more again! I agree. I was also unsure of the system and it still sounds overcomplicated, but the games were really good to watch. So as long as it produces entertaining games all is well. Also I think the pricemoney is really good for a rather small and quick tournament.
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<3 EPS/EAS finally there is a thread!
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nice so today the next cup?
hope DBS will finally do well and not get hasu in 2nd round again 
also hope to see delphi back in action
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either its a league (bundesliga) or its a cup. making a league based on cups is just stupid. who in the hole world will care to understand this when tuning into a random stream posted on TL?
why do u advertise that u are the german league if you are not a league anymore? anyone thought about that?
sadly i never cared about spectating the ESL. first of all because i grew up in clanbase and i dislike ESL because of that. second the production value is below amateur level. every random diamond ladderplayer can set up a better streamquality then ESL did. besides i would never pay to know how the highquality looks like a can only suspect it does not meet up to industry standards... or lets say amateur standards in this case.
changing this can only come down to ESL not being happy with what they had before. so they changed it up, right?
but this makes no sense to me. when i have a flat tire i replace my windows? is this the logic here ESL?
i dont know from a player perpective but as a spectator i ignore all "daily" cups because i feel its the worst format because of good games overlapping and downtimes.
i dont think anyone will care about this except the german longtime ESL fanbase.
it´s sad this is all germany can offer. german players deserve better then this.
tl;dr i dont like it ESL does stupid things.
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I can agree. ESL is stuck in old times regarding the production value. Also the ESL websites are terrible and need a complete overhaul. This combined with the decline of the top players skill in Germany is not adding up to a entertaining event. You need to step up, ESL.
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Quite some negativ feedback you guys are presenting there. Let's see if I can address some of your points.
As I explained in the OP we are trying to get more players involved in the EPS since it's been a somewhat steady number of names up there for quite a while. I personally enjoy seeing players like monchi or NoXouT getting a chance to prove that they should have been part of the EPS in the first place. The old qualification system was very, very annoying for new players and I believe we made a good first step to get more people to play in the highest league in Germany.
Lately the league-part of the EPS generated a lot less interest than our bi-weekly Go4SC2 cups or our qualifier cups for the Intel Extreme Masters. We saw the need to change something and actually went for a very drastic tournament system change. This is how we are trying to fill the "regular season" with actually meaningful events and so far the cups have been quite exhiting if you ask me.
I don't really understand your "production value"-criticism as it sounds a bit generic. What exactly do you mean? Our shows on ESL.tv and TaKe.tv? Could you elaborate on that a bit? Is it the stream resolution? Because I believe the quality of our free stream has actually improved a ton in the past months. I understand that navigating our website can be quite a hustle - that's why threads on TeamLiquid are so great: I can just link to all necessary websites directly.
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On February 28 2012 21:32 SkyTheUnknown wrote: This combined with the decline of the top players skill in Germany is not adding up to a entertaining event.
Who is missing? All the top players in germany (and austria [and Cloud]) are participating in the current season.
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I guess his point was that the skill of the german players is low, compared to players from other nations.
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On February 28 2012 22:12 Shawngood wrote:
Lately the league-part of the EPS generated a lot less interest than our bi-weekly Go4SC2 cups or our qualifier cups for the Intel Extreme Masters. We saw the need to change something and actually went for a very drastic tournament system change. This is how we are trying to fill the "regular season" with actually meaningful events and so far the cups have been quite exhiting if you ask me.
I am an esl.tv premium subscriber so it's not like I just hate on ESL but I can say that I really don't care about EPS anymore. The reason I didn't watch a lot of EPS the last two seasons is because the system change after 17 was just bad in the first place and in season 17 I had the feeling that I watched a show with effort behind it. I understand that the old Studio 1 was expensive and outdated but what I don't understand is that you now go to an even worse format and expect more viewers.
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Well you say it's worse but that's purely subjective, isn't it? I personally never enjoyed the ladder system when there often wasn't a single interesting match on one playday and nothing really was on the line until the very end of the season.
Furthermore I'm pretty sure that at least the first cup (in parts due to proper promotion) had more viewers than there were in previous seasons.
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On February 28 2012 23:53 KalWarkov wrote: just tlo misses. He doesnt live in a german speaking country.
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This leech guy is hilarious does "first of all because i grew up in clanbase and i dislike ESL because of that." even make sense?
I like the format change alot, its way more interesting then the old format. You just have to spend one evening in the week to see the best lineup germany has to offer. Its funny to see so many of the elite proplayers get beaten in round 1 or 2 by relatively unknown players to most of the audience. But it is always good to see some new talent, where else can you see them face of with players like Goody, Socke, Hasu, Darkforce etc.
The pricepool is awesome for a regionlocked oneday tournament and everyone who goes in the top 8 will earn some money.
The casting is also quite good with Mr. Bitter and Rotterdam in english and Take for the german fans. Streamquality is also OK as a premium user. I only wish there would be some kind of overlay with some records and a photograph of the players or something. Would make it a bit more professional.
Oh and lets not forget the EPS Cast from www.sc2pro.de that airs every week with some insight from the players that played in the cup.
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I hope Goody performs well today. Maybe he finally gets less Toss in the first rounds
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On February 28 2012 23:06 Influ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 22:12 Shawngood wrote:
Lately the league-part of the EPS generated a lot less interest than our bi-weekly Go4SC2 cups or our qualifier cups for the Intel Extreme Masters. We saw the need to change something and actually went for a very drastic tournament system change. This is how we are trying to fill the "regular season" with actually meaningful events and so far the cups have been quite exhiting if you ask me.
I am an esl.tv premium subscriber so it's not like I just hate on ESL but I can say that I really don't care about EPS anymore. The reason I didn't watch a lot of EPS the last two seasons is because the system change after 17 was just bad in the first place and in season 17 I had the feeling that I watched a show with effort behind it. I understand that the old Studio 1 was expensive and outdated but what I don't understand is that you now go to an even worse format and expect more viewers. Imo format is much better now than before. Makes me watch EPS again. Please dont speak for all of us. Oh and I have esl.tv premium too.
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On February 28 2012 22:12 Shawngood wrote:Quite some negativ feedback you guys are presenting there. Let's see if I can address some of your points. As I explained in the OP we are trying to get more players involved in the EPS since it's been a somewhat steady number of names up there for quite a while. I personally enjoy seeing players like monchi or NoXouT getting a chance to prove that they should have been part of the EPS in the first place. The old qualification system was very, very annoying for new players and I believe we made a good first step to get more people to play in the highest league in Germany. Lately the league-part of the EPS generated a lot less interest than our bi-weekly Go4SC2 cups or our qualifier cups for the Intel Extreme Masters. We saw the need to change something and actually went for a very drastic tournament system change. This is how we are trying to fill the "regular season" with actually meaningful events and so far the cups have been quite exhiting if you ask me. I don't really understand your "production value"-criticism as it sounds a bit generic. What exactly do you mean? Our shows on ESL.tv and TaKe.tv? Could you elaborate on that a bit? Is it the stream resolution? Because I believe the quality of our free stream has actually improved a ton in the past months. I understand that navigating our website can be quite a hustle - that's why threads on TeamLiquid are so great: I can just link to all necessary websites directly. 
there are successful leagues such as GSL with a working format. there are new players in korea pupping all the time. so i dont understand this could be a reason for switching. in other words i believe there must be more to it... its not reason enough to swtich the hole system right? flat tires.. new windows.. still makes no sense. you want new players? make it somehow easier for them to join... and saying go4sc2 has more attention only shows no one care about EPS. it does not say go4sc2 is the better format, right?
also your answer to "no attention" is NOT to go into the direction a GSL takes.. but rather going a step back to a "daily" cup format? this thing that a mediocre coded website can take care off all by itself? throw 2 casters into it and there you go. this is the plan for the following years?
sorry man that is just weak. besides socke (which im a huge fan of) there is absolutly no reason i would want to watch this. id rather watch korean or american tournaments. koreans are better skillwise and most americans have more interesting drama/personality.
we now have this cup thing.. thats kind of a german pro gamer league.. but actually its a cup. so.. why dont u buy our PPV and become a certified ESL player by buying a playercard?
ah come on!... you can do better then this ESL.
the reason i really am confused about this is because ESL is not some small 2-3 guy team that tries to get into the industry. but if there is no money for german esports there is no money. i guess.. its the only reason i can think of..
ps: production value (homestory cup aside).. interfaces, transitions, content between matches, building up storyline.. dont play one ad over 250 times.. and so on.. its a general thing so a generic answer seems fitting...
but i forgot u sometime switched to twitch tv after aloooong time so congrats on this one ;P
♥ no hard feelings. im not a player afterall.
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On February 29 2012 00:12 leecH wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 22:12 Shawngood wrote:Quite some negativ feedback you guys are presenting there. Let's see if I can address some of your points. As I explained in the OP we are trying to get more players involved in the EPS since it's been a somewhat steady number of names up there for quite a while. I personally enjoy seeing players like monchi or NoXouT getting a chance to prove that they should have been part of the EPS in the first place. The old qualification system was very, very annoying for new players and I believe we made a good first step to get more people to play in the highest league in Germany. Lately the league-part of the EPS generated a lot less interest than our bi-weekly Go4SC2 cups or our qualifier cups for the Intel Extreme Masters. We saw the need to change something and actually went for a very drastic tournament system change. This is how we are trying to fill the "regular season" with actually meaningful events and so far the cups have been quite exhiting if you ask me. I don't really understand your "production value"-criticism as it sounds a bit generic. What exactly do you mean? Our shows on ESL.tv and TaKe.tv? Could you elaborate on that a bit? Is it the stream resolution? Because I believe the quality of our free stream has actually improved a ton in the past months. I understand that navigating our website can be quite a hustle - that's why threads on TeamLiquid are so great: I can just link to all necessary websites directly.  there are successful leagues such as GSL with a working format. there are new players in korea pupping all the time. so i dont understand this could be a reason for switching. in other words i believe there must be more to it... its not reason enough to swtich the hole system right? flat tires.. new windows.. still makes no sense. you want new players? make it somehow easier for them to join... and saying go4sc2 has more attention only shows no one care about EPS. it does not say go4sc2 is the better format, right? also your answer to "no attention" is NOT to go into the direction a GSL takes.. but rather going a step back to a "daily" cup format? this thing that a mediocre coded website can take care off all by itself? throw 2 casters into it and there you go. this is the plan for the following years? sorry man that is just weak. besides socke (which im a huge fan of) there is absolutly no reason i would want to watch this. id rather watch korean or american tournaments. koreans are better skillwise and most americans have more interesting drama/personality. we now have this cup thing.. thats kind of a german pro gamer league.. but actually its a cup. so.. why dont u buy our PPV and become a certified ESL player by buying a playercard? ah come on!... you can do better then this ESL. the reason i really am confused about this is because ESL is not some small 2-3 guy team that tries to get into the industry. but if there is no money for german esports there is no money. i guess.. its the only reason i can think of.. ps: production value (homestory cup aside).. interfaces, transitions, content between matches, building up storyline.. dont play one ad over 250 times.. and so on.. its a general thing so a generic answer seems fitting... but i forgot u sometime switched to twitch tv after aloooong time so congrats on this one  ;P ♥ no hard feelings
In the last season it was extremely hard for a player that was not playing in the EPS to get much attention. And correct me if I'm wrong but until this season it took a year (or half a year) for a player to reach the EPS if everything went perfectly (except if you're TLO but that's another story). Now you don't need to be in the EPS anymore to get attention and to also get a possibilitly to make some prizemoney. Furthermore with the old system it was possible for bad players to remain in the EPS due to luck with groups or because other players stopped playing. The new system is much more dynamic and in my opinion it ensures a much higher competition between the players.
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i find the eps quite exciting again, better than the groupstage system, but I still loved the old system the most just personal preference, but a league with 16 players where everybody plays everybody is just by far the most fair system ^^, but the cup system is exciting, looking forward to tonight again, cu at 7 we made a request for the calender so hopefully its up in time
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On February 29 2012 00:34 RotterdaM wrote:i find the eps quite exciting again, better than the groupstage system, but I still loved the old system the most  just personal preference, but a league with 16 players where everybody plays everybody is just by far the most fair system ^^, but the cup system is exciting, looking forward to tonight again, cu at 7  we made a request for the calender so hopefully its up in time Except for the problem that some players can't gurantee eps niveau for a long time. I mean obviously the very best ones like Hasu, Socke, etc can, but players 10-16 for example are very likely to have active and unactive phases and there will be a lot of better players not participating.
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On February 29 2012 00:39 Tigi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 00:34 RotterdaM wrote:i find the eps quite exciting again, better than the groupstage system, but I still loved the old system the most  just personal preference, but a league with 16 players where everybody plays everybody is just by far the most fair system ^^, but the cup system is exciting, looking forward to tonight again, cu at 7  we made a request for the calender so hopefully its up in time Except for the problem that some players can't gurantee eps niveau for a long time. I mean obviously the very best ones like Hasu, Socke, etc can, but players 10-16 for example are very likely to have active and unactive phases and there will be a lot of better players not participating.
But that's no reason to change it. Every pro sport has that system, and if guys are not able to motivate themselves when they have no shot of reaching the final anymore they are not the type of players we need in e-sports ~ in all honesty, why cant players motivate themselve for a 100 Euro bo3 while they would play random only cups for 50 euro, odds 1/128 of winning 50 euro or 1/2 on 100 Eu? I still think that was the best system, I know why they changed it, I just don't agree with it ;P
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Shawn, rotti, bitter or whoever is responsible for the PR stuff: you need to link the event to the TL sidebar. There were several ESL events where this wasn`t done and hte majority of the fans simply did not watch, because they didn`t realise it was on.
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On February 29 2012 01:16 zul wrote: Shawn, rotti, bitter or whoever is responsible for the PR stuff: you need to link the event to the TL sidebar. There were several ESL events where this wasn`t done and hte majority of the fans simply did not watch, because they didn`t realise it was on.
On February 29 2012 00:34 RotterdaM wrote: we made a request for the calender so hopefully its up in time
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nice op! better late than never .. : )
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On February 29 2012 01:20 Ippo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 01:16 zul wrote: Shawn, rotti, bitter or whoever is responsible for the PR stuff: you need to link the event to the TL sidebar. There were several ESL events where this wasn`t done and hte majority of the fans simply did not watch, because they didn`t realise it was on. Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 00:34 RotterdaM wrote: we made a request for the calender so hopefully its up in time oh, I didn`t see that.
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I watched the first eps cup and it was fun, you can build up good stories about the players, eas vs eps
would love to see better promotion
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here just the names who are likely to play those cups (end of this season or next season) because they live in germany/swiss/austria:
HasuObs
Socke
DarkFoRcE
GoOdy
ClouD
Delphi
biGs
monchi
ReaL
Phoenix
Mondragon
XlorD
DBS filled up with GM players only (like mtwrine, rmdx and others), cause germany has a lot of them. I wouldnt call this bad at all oO Obviously they always will play every cup, but its possible
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The cup system is so much better than the old one!
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On February 29 2012 01:16 zul wrote: Shawn, rotti, bitter or whoever is responsible for the PR stuff: you need to link the event to the TL sidebar. There were several ESL events where this wasn`t done and hte majority of the fans simply did not watch, because they didn`t realise it was on.
That's the reason why the go4sc2 cups get more viewers, they are properly advertised, while the EPS is still not on the sidebar one hour before it starts....
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Finally there is a thread for EPS and I hope tonights show will be up in the TL calendar for everybody to see, because the games were pretty good in the last cups and EPS definately deserves more attention than the last times. I am looking forward to todays cup!
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On February 29 2012 00:47 RotterdaM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 00:39 Tigi wrote:On February 29 2012 00:34 RotterdaM wrote:i find the eps quite exciting again, better than the groupstage system, but I still loved the old system the most  just personal preference, but a league with 16 players where everybody plays everybody is just by far the most fair system ^^, but the cup system is exciting, looking forward to tonight again, cu at 7  we made a request for the calender so hopefully its up in time Except for the problem that some players can't gurantee eps niveau for a long time. I mean obviously the very best ones like Hasu, Socke, etc can, but players 10-16 for example are very likely to have active and unactive phases and there will be a lot of better players not participating. But that's no reason to change it. Every pro sport has that system, and if guys are not able to motivate themselves when they have no shot of reaching the final anymore they are not the type of players we need in e-sports ~ in all honesty, why cant players motivate themselve for a 100 Euro bo3 while they would play random only cups for 50 euro, odds 1/128 of winning 50 euro or 1/2 on 100 Eu? I still think that was the best system, I know why they changed it, I just don't agree with it ;P Has nothing to do with motivation in most cases. Just that people, who don't earn as much money as the top players, have to worry about other stuff as well so they might just be practising less, while a player who isn't in the league just had a lot of free time and played a shitload of games so he got better, but can't participate in the league.
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It really gets frustrating to see that the eps cup is still not listed on the calender. Maybe it will be when it's live but it should really be under upcoming events, then people would start wondering what this new cup is...
Btw, I agree with Leech that the quality of the stream can be improved. I think premium should be 1080p and it seems to me that 720p on esl-tv is not as clear as on mlg or ipl etc. Also some overlays would be nice 
Other than that I think esl and eps is headed in a nice direction and I hope it will get more viewers every time!
Edit: Yay it's finally listed :D
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On February 29 2012 00:00 Ippo wrote: This leech guy is hilarious does "first of all because i grew up in clanbase and i dislike ESL because of that." even make sense?
thank you. im such a hilarious guy. i know!
yes it makes sense when u play clanbase only for 7 years and unfortunatly its the other league and the other game that takes off and not the thing you were playing.. u get this itchy feeling. so yea it makes perfect sense
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I like the new format quite much, but it might be just because Rotterdam+MrBitter cover it now regularly and the amazing work at sc2pro.de.
But in general, it appears that the ESL is purposely trying to undersell the EPS or don't really care about the number of viewers. They get maybe ten times as much viewers with decent threads and early calendar entries at TL, but you rarely see these here or pretty late with already some hours into the broadcast. Sometimes I hear it is hard to get a TL mod to approve this things, but a lot of smaller cups seem to have no problem with it.
Formatwise, the 16 players round robin is the format which is traditionally associated with the EPS. But I have to admit it had some problems, like having unimportant matches sometimes. I like that there are more series shown with the tournament system, but from a production view, I never understood why the ESL couldn't force players wait until the series before has ended and wait for the broadcast, so you get three picked series shown entirely every Tuesday and have the other matches streamed by volunteers. Also cutting out of matches or not showing the conclusion of a series because being over schedule like it happened before is something which should NOT be an issue with the possibilities of Internet streaming.
I don't agree with the argument that German players are bad in SC2 and non-germans have no interest in the EPS. The German scene in SC2 is quite strong with having (traditionally) a large basis of good (Grandmaster) players and some players like Hasu, Socke, Darkforce that often advance in international tournaments as well. Maybe the impression stems from the last seasons of WC3 by players (rumored to be) only practicing occasionally to avoid dropping out and top players seeming to be already satisfied to win the EPS but didn't have any ambition to place well in international tournaments.
I must say that in SC2 in particular, I am quite fond of the EPS/EAS (national league + national amateur series). Compare the German scene with the American scene. There is hardly any competition for "second class" Americans (i.e. America without HuK, IdrA, Sheth) can shine in and it is very hard for American newcomers to break into the scene. How to you build a SC2 career in America? Be in a popular team or be a popular streamer, but eSports should not be only a popularity contest. In Germany, the path is more straight-forward.
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EPS could be "the" league in germany and a warrant for the best vs the best. Imagine a system where its like bundesliga, watching your favorite players or even teams every weekend for the german championship.
But what we get is a cup system, which doesnt make any sense. You dont see this system in any other games or leagues in any other country. Why? Caus it sucks. But sometimes it could be a step in the right direction to try something new. Okay. It could be worth the risk to lose the title "Deutscher Meister" (german champion) if you win it. No problem.
But the real deal is that the ESL is not interested (?) in letting this whole system go big. I dont see any real interesting news on enough community pages to know whats going on in the EPS, when there are casts, who is casting and the dates and stuff. The ESL homepage itself sucks, so i wont use it. If you read a news about the price money for the ESL and Starcraft 2, you would cry.
Why the hell should i watch EPS if we have tournaments like NASL, MLG, Dreamhack, GSL, and stuff for singleplayers and even quite nice teamleagues that are always getting bigger?
edit: and the biggest joke is the stream quality, even if you pay for it. for real, ive seen unknown tournaments or even private streamers with ALOT better quality and this all for free. you can discuss the quality of casters, or you just like/dislike them, but this quality ... oh crap.
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At least the Event is on the sidebar three times now, so it should get enough exposure
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On February 29 2012 02:46 HorstSchlemmer wrote:At least the Event is on the sidebar three times now, so it should get enough exposure 
i'm still laughing
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On February 29 2012 02:47 oOa)sInNeR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 02:46 HorstSchlemmer wrote:At least the Event is on the sidebar three times now, so it should get enough exposure  i'm still laughing
so good :D
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I also liked the old round robin system with 16 players more. But with a system like that you need really good coverage of the events, like it was back with warcraft 3. You just knew all the standings etc and people talked about it etc. It just had more of a "Bundesliga" feeling to it than it has now.
I still like the new system too tho! You get to see a lot of new talent and there have already been quite some upsets!
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I like the cup system much more, especially because the EAS is involved. But the biggest reason that theses cups are way more fun to watch is because every cup got its own story and every week is exciting. In the old system,i only watched the finals because most playdays had uninterristing matches. For the cup system, i've watched both so far and they were really enjoyable.
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Naruto fighting
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Stream down for anyone else?
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Stream online for me. But I can't believe the stream is again not listed on TL, lol.
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On February 29 2012 03:26 Champloo wrote: Stream online for me. But I can't believe the stream is again not listed on TL, lol.
blind?
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i hear audio but black screen tt
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Well the streams aren't actually listed, only the event itself is.
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On February 29 2012 03:31 CosmoK wrote: Well the streams aren't actually listed, only the event itself is.
[ESL] German EPS Stream: TaKeTV Stream: ESL_TV_Studio1
what are these streams then? everything is listed.
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That is what I see:
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Yeah, that's what I see too. To see the streams you have to change your profile to not only show SC2 streams, but all games.
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Delphi with the proxy hatch in KnowMe's natural :D
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what's up with takes stream today ? each game ending fight 3 advertisements and then next match :/
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On February 29 2012 04:07 Cayn wrote: what's up with takes stream today ? each game ending fight 3 advertisements and then next match :/
Advertisements semm to be very random, I only get very few.
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On February 29 2012 04:07 Cayn wrote: what's up with takes stream today ? each game ending fight 3 advertisements and then next match :/ dunno about takes stream, but the english stream also has some issue. check out the bad quality today. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZnBM7.jpg) I messaged Bitter and Rotterdam about this, maybe they can fix it. Normally the 450p freestream is much better.
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premium stream is not that much of an improvement to be honest.
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Hasu is really falling in love with immortals lately, looks like it's the same with monchi
On February 29 2012 04:32 neocron wrote: Actually it is!
screenshot?
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On February 29 2012 04:32 neocron wrote: Actually it is!
not worth it
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On February 29 2012 04:34 ramon wrote:Hasu is really falling in love with immortals lately, looks like it's the same with monchi screenshot?
Screenshots:
1. English stream
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GxRMS.jpg)
2. TaKeTV stream
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On February 29 2012 04:35 oOa)sInNeR wrote:not worth it
Are you kidding me?
Low stream 452
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/e2gD8.jpg)
compared to HD 720
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now compare your screenshots to EVERY other stream
uh wow they are all better, way better.
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yeah, premium is better quality than freestream, but my point still stand: the freestream of 450p usually has a significant better quality and this should be fixed.
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Hasu going Carriers + Phoenix Range
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Love Hasu experimenting vs Hanfy. First game KnowMe's Sentry Immortal Push (-10 Sentry ;D) and second game Phoenix Range upgrade.
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Daww, Hanfy split his broodlords before the fight, but seemed to clump them all up again to kill the nexus ..
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nice hasu vs hanfy series
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ESL Premium is definitly worth it. Low price for a lot of content.
Edit: Is MrBitter really trying to say carriers are imba? :D
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Maybe you can argue that ESL Premium quality should be a little better. But 20 Euro for a whole year is still cheap as fuck. You can not really go wrong there.
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On February 29 2012 04:55 Champloo wrote: ESL Premium is definitly worth it. Low price for a lot of content.
Edit: Is MrBitter really trying to say carriers are imba? :D
He is saying they might be, when they are already out with nice upgrades and mothership, colssi, ht support, what should never happen :D
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Goody loses in the second round again :/ And this time it wasn't even against a protoss but against a terran (Olajuwon).
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I love EPS. Germany's got a sick lineup at the top levels and it's a great source for replays. Good show, thanks for the thread. I can't watch now because I really should be doing work but keep it up. :D
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You can watch the VODs later
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Get some overlays. And a proper result page with actual scores. And reseeding after every cup would be nice too.
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On February 29 2012 05:34 Derity wrote: Get some overlays. And a proper result page with actual scores. And reseeding after every cup would be nice too.
There is reseeding and a proper result page...
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Alternate owning this one
Darkforce and Delphi in the semis, Cloud and Socke could follow
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socke lost to monchi, so no alternate semis
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But Cloud made it so at least 3 aTn player^^ Cloud seems to be in good shape.
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After two cups without any Zerg in the top 4 two managed to reach the semis today: DarKFoRcE and Delphi.
Looking forward to who will reach the final at CeBit next week...
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up the gamesounds please..
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Mr Bitter and Rotterdam, please step up your game. It happens too often that you just don't have any idea of your schedule and upcoming matches or players.
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On February 29 2012 06:57 Derity wrote: Mr Bitter and Rotterdam, please step up your game. It happens too often that you just don't have any idea of your schedule and upcoming matches or players.
how does stepping up their game help with that? anyway, cool down^^
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someone ask delphi why he puts 5 spines in front and then fights out of range of them.
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Wow Darkforce and Cloud casting (in English) on TakeTV!
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weird woman noise in the background of darkforce, cloud asks: "darkforce, are you watching porn?" :D
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I feel like having a deja vu. delphi y u no fight in spinerange?
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On February 29 2012 07:47 zul wrote: I feel like having a deja vu. delphi y u no fight in spinerange?
In the first game it made sense. Protoss can always make some potshots and blink out when the shields deplete. At some time, you have to chase behind if you smell blood.
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Have Cloud and Darkforce already played the final?
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They will play it on Cebit! Next week: Thursday!
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On February 29 2012 07:55 Titorelli wrote: Have Cloud and Darkforce already played the final?
They play the final game next week on Thursday at the Cebit.
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Is there no english stream for the darkforce vs cloud right now? I was sure Mr. Bitter and Rotter would cast this.
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The german cast is live on esl.tv
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should be in the sidebar :/
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Ah I missed G1 because it wasnt on the sidebar
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Somebody should really explain them how featuring on the TL sidebar works. Always EPS with this problem, IEM or Go4sc2 are always on the sidebar. But nice to see Hasu casting.
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in my opinion both skill level and commentating of the games are very good if not the best in foreign weekly tournements.
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OP updated. Cup #4 will start in 5 hours!
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why are there BYEs in first round??
i hope this is on purpose and not because not even 32 players registered
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pretty sure it was because there were less than 32 players registered than were eligible to play.
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On March 14 2012 03:02 robih wrote: why are there BYEs in first round??
i hope this is on purpose and not because not even 32 players registered
No, when I checked the participants 4 minutes ago, there were just 28 listed.
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On March 14 2012 03:02 robih wrote: why are there BYEs in first round??
i hope this is on purpose and not because not even 32 players registered I blame you for not playing! 
Unfortunately there are no 32 players that are eligible and interested to participate. We are not missing any of the big names though... We actually have a new rather famous and promising player this time around: biGs
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And where is the stream? Studio 1 and 2 are both offline.
So not only the players are not interesseted to participate so that we have only 28 player but the casters have also no interest to cast it then?
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No streaming from Rotti and Bitter?
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On March 14 2012 03:23 Tarotis wrote:No streaming from Rotti and Bitter?
No. They are on holidays in the US.
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Yes, I submitted those calendar entries a couple weeks ago. Unfortunately MrBitter and Rotterdam are currently not in Germany and thus not available to cast.
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No one will watch Sansai unless he attaches his stream to the event...
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Wtf, Goody plays Protoss against Hasu right now. Did he play pvp against acro, too and won?
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yeah wtf why Goody playing Protoss?
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Goody always said, if terran gets nerfed too much and he can't play mech properly anymore, that he would switch to toss.
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On March 14 2012 05:30 Sooooil wrote: Goody always said, if terran gets nerfed too much and he can't play mech properly anymore, that he would switch to toss.
But this is not supposed to happen. How can he build tanks, while playing protoss?
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On March 14 2012 05:32 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 05:30 Sooooil wrote: Goody always said, if terran gets nerfed too much and he can't play mech properly anymore, that he would switch to toss. But this is not supposed to happen. How can he build tanks, while playing protoss? He can build walking, always-sieged tanks now. It's for the better.
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Today's semi finals look very promising. RINE just lost a long first match on Entombed Valley to Delphi while HasuObs and biGs are having a mousesports-duel on Daybreak featuring a Mothership, Carriers and a lot of Infestors/Broodlords. Better tune in!
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Rine beat Delphi 2-1 and goes to the final
Happy for Rine, hope he can take it all now
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Big props to Rine! I didn't expect him to do so well at all, but he plays the games out very well.
Great cup so far, some upsets, not only the usual faces and Goody playing PvP, it's almost perfect.
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WTF?! Hasu played carriers vs Delphi and Delphi typed out!
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Mouz biGs wins it. Congrats.
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OMG the last cup today, interesting to see if Bigs remains in the top 8 or if kara, Farmer or akkis will make it in :D
HYPE!!!
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On March 20 2012 23:34 zocktol wrote: OMG the last cup today, interesting to see if Bigs remains in the top 8 or if kara, Farmer or akkis will make it in :D
HYPE!!! And is even on the TL calendar OP could use an update from the last cup though.
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Excited for the final cup today, the playoffs will be decided and only two guys are save (Although very weird things have to happen to eliminate Monchi, Socke or Darkforce). I wouldn´t be surprised, if Goody wins todays cup, claims the 7/8 seed and then progresses to face Cloud in the quarterfinals.
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the only sad things about this cup, is that any player of the Amateur series can participate if he has the "Trusted pro" status.
in order to play the cups you need "trusted pro" - and since not nearly enough players have it, points are meaningless and a bunch of noobs without any skill can participate in the "EPS cups", just because they are the only ones who are able to participate.
quite the joke if you ask me.
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On March 20 2012 23:53 KalWarkov wrote: the only sad things about this cup, is that any player of the Amateur series can participate if he has the "Trusted pro" status.
in order to play the cups you need "trusted pro" - and since not nearly enough players have it, points are meaningless and a bunch of noobs without any skill can participate in the "EPS cups", just because they are the only ones who are able to participate.
quite the joke if you ask me.
Well they did that for all cups so far and I don't think that the participants of the last 4 cups were all complete noobs.
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On March 20 2012 23:53 KalWarkov wrote: the only sad things about this cup, is that any player of the Amateur series can participate if he has the "Trusted pro" status.
in order to play the cups you need "trusted pro" - and since not nearly enough players have it, points are meaningless and a bunch of noobs without any skill can participate in the "EPS cups", just because they are the only ones who are able to participate.
quite the joke if you ask me.
Besides the koreans staying in the type house I don't miss any big name. Also I have been impressed by the level of play some of the newcomers showed in these cups so I have to disagree with your rant.
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On March 20 2012 23:53 KalWarkov wrote: the only sad things about this cup, is that any player of the Amateur series can participate if he has the "Trusted pro" status.
in order to play the cups you need "trusted pro" - and since not nearly enough players have it, points are meaningless and a bunch of noobs without any skill can participate in the "EPS cups", just because they are the only ones who are able to participate.
quite the joke if you ask me.
Trusted pro is not that bad. I mean it only costs around 6€ to become a trusted pro for one year, and if you get Top8 one time, you already have won 19 € with your investment. Also it insures that there are no people smurfing or doing a no show. Also points are not meaningless, the people with the top 8 points are going to the finals.
Even if noobs are participating, it does not ahrm teh tournament, because they will loose in the first round to a better player, thus ensuring that people get one round to warm up :D
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On March 20 2012 23:53 KalWarkov wrote: the only sad things about this cup, is that any player of the Amateur series can participate if he has the "Trusted pro" status.
in order to play the cups you need "trusted pro" - and since not nearly enough players have it, points are meaningless and a bunch of noobs without any skill can participate in the "EPS cups", just because they are the only ones who are able to participate.
quite the joke if you ask me. That is complete nonsense, since no "noob" participated yet; just a random complaint for the sake of complaining without having any information. If there are more signups then spots the ones are chosen by their EAS ranking.
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On March 21 2012 01:12 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 23:53 KalWarkov wrote: the only sad things about this cup, is that any player of the Amateur series can participate if he has the "Trusted pro" status.
in order to play the cups you need "trusted pro" - and since not nearly enough players have it, points are meaningless and a bunch of noobs without any skill can participate in the "EPS cups", just because they are the only ones who are able to participate.
quite the joke if you ask me. That is complete nonsense, since no "noob" participated yet; just a random complaint for the sake of complaining without having any information. If there are more signups then spots the ones are chosen by their EAS ranking.
there are eas div 4 players that participated just because there are div1 / 2 players without trusted pro (i am one of those). plz dont talk about things you have no idea about, ty.
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I hope somehow RINE drops out. Nothing against him but there's too many Protoss and he is the weakest out of them. Instead I'd love to see DBS or Goody, only one Terran makes me sad :C
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On March 21 2012 02:16 Ragoo wrote: I hope somehow RINE drops out. Nothing against him but there's too many Protoss and he is the weakest out of them. Instead I'd love to see DBS or Goody, only one Terran makes me sad :C
rine isnt exceptional when it comes to macro and micro, but he is one of the best if not the best strategist when it comes to german players. he has rly sick strats, i can tell u that for sure - at least in pvp^^
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I´m so exited for today´s cup! I really hope that Goody win this, the playoffs would be not the same without him <3 and i´m looking forward to TaKes casting aswell^^
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On March 21 2012 02:16 Ragoo wrote: I hope somehow RINE drops out. Nothing against him but there's too many Protoss and he is the weakest out of them. Instead I'd love to see DBS or Goody, only one Terran makes me sad :C
I personally think RINE deserves more attention, he is doing a lot of stuff for the german community (AFAIK the brain behind Szenecast), so I hope he stays in.
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On March 21 2012 02:16 Ragoo wrote: I hope somehow RINE drops out. Nothing against him but there's too many Protoss and he is the weakest out of them. Instead I'd love to see DBS or Goody, only one Terran makes me sad :C
I kinow what you mean There's really a lack of terrans in the top8. I think the only ones that have a realistic chance are GoOdy and Olajuwon though (DBS would have to win today's cup, and everybody else would have to do terrible). I really hope he makes it, though ._.
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Rine should definitly stay in the top8 imo!!
Will the whole ro8 playoffs played at an offline event or only top4?
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On March 21 2012 02:10 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 01:12 grs wrote:On March 20 2012 23:53 KalWarkov wrote: the only sad things about this cup, is that any player of the Amateur series can participate if he has the "Trusted pro" status.
in order to play the cups you need "trusted pro" - and since not nearly enough players have it, points are meaningless and a bunch of noobs without any skill can participate in the "EPS cups", just because they are the only ones who are able to participate.
quite the joke if you ask me. That is complete nonsense, since no "noob" participated yet; just a random complaint for the sake of complaining without having any information. If there are more signups then spots the ones are chosen by their EAS ranking. there are eas div 4 players that participated just because there are div1 / 2 players without trusted pro (i am one of those). plz dont talk about things you have no idea about, ty. So you think you are much more awesome than other players and are bitter because you don't spend 8.95 € for 3 years of trusted or 3.95€ for 1 year of it?
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On March 20 2012 23:43 grs wrote: OP could use an update from the last cup though.
Done, just for you!
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On March 21 2012 03:08 Shawngood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 23:43 grs wrote: OP could use an update from the last cup though.
Done, just for you!  How good of you Shawn
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So that is how you beat Mech with Zerg :D
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Monchi vs Biggs is brutal for first-roubd MU. And the winner of that will most likely have a path of Akkis, Delphi, Socke and the finalist of the other half (Cloud/Hasu/Goody/DF) ahead of him.
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Trying to find the Grid and again i have to realize, how bad the ESL website is. Hope hey will fix that at some point.
Could anybody link the Grid? Maybe Shawn in OP?
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Sorry did not see it.
You do good Shawn, you do good
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Looking good for Kara and bad for Delphi!
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GoOdy plays only Protoss vs. Protoss now? Seems he has given up with TvP
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Live ranking:
1st 250 HasuObs 2nd 220 ClouD 3rd 150 monchi* 3rd 150 DarKFoRcE 5th 135 Socke* 6th 125 RINE* 6th 125 biGs 8th 120 kAra 9th 115 Delphi* 10th 95 Olajuwon 10th 95 AkkiS* 12th 80 Farmer* 13th 75 GoOdy
* = out of 5th cup
So both Delphi and AkkiS will not make it to the playoffs!
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On March 21 2012 05:07 Shawngood wrote: Live ranking:
1st 250 HasuObs 2nd 220 ClouD 3rd 150 monchi* 3rd 150 DarKFoRcE 5th 135 Socke* 6th 125 RINE* 6th 125 biGs 8th 120 kAra 9th 115 Delphi* 10th 95 Olajuwon 10th 95 AkkiS* 12th 80 Farmer* 13th 75 GoOdy
* = out of 5th cup
So both Delphi and AkkiS will not make it to the playoffs!
Thank you very much, you are doing an awesome job, shawn.
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Wow, upper half of the bracket is intense with Bigs, Kara and Olajuwon! Would be so awesome if Olajuwon makes it into the playoffs.
Edit: and Take is casting the only game in the quarterfinals that doesn't matter at all.
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GoOdy is out. Sad for him but Hasu underlines that he is the man to beat this season, making it to 4 of 5 semi-finals and reaching the quarterfinals in the remaining Cup.
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On March 21 2012 05:01 TheOneAboveU wrote:GoOdy plays only Protoss vs. Protoss now? Seems he has given up with TvP 
guess he enjoys protoss "mech" more then bio with terran. And currently he does okay with it, since everyone tries to go for blink stalkers, and compared to mech ... robo is mobile like a muta ... so advantage for goody, when his opponent goes for blink instead of robo.
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I hope Olajuwon can eliminate Kara from the top8 because Kara is pretty awful.
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what goody plays pvp, that's sad
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On March 21 2012 05:38 Baum wrote: I hope Olajuwon can eliminate Kara from the top8 because Kara is pretty awful.
Nevermind he already lost against Bigs. Now we have to watch Kara failing offline. T.T
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I'm quite sure these 8 are through. HasuObs ClouD monchi DarKFoRcE Socke RINE biGs kAra
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These 8 are qualified for the playoffs:
1st 265 HasuObs 2nd 220 ClouD 3rd 150 monchi* 3rd 150 DarKFoRcE 5th 140 biGs 6th 135 Socke* 7th 135 kAra 8th 125 RINE*
* = out of 5th cup
5 Protoss, 2 Zerg, 1 Terran...
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On March 21 2012 05:07 Shawngood wrote: Live ranking:
1st 250 HasuObs 2nd 220 ClouD 3rd 150 monchi* 3rd 150 DarKFoRcE 5th 135 Socke* 6th 125 RINE* 6th 125 biGs 8th 120 kAra 9th 115 Delphi* 10th 95 Olajuwon 10th 95 AkkiS* 12th 80 Farmer* 13th 75 GoOdy
* = out of 5th cup
So both Delphi and AkkiS will not make it to the playoffs! Wasn't there a rule, that players had to particiapate at least in 3 cups. Cause this would mean, that biGs couldn't qualify.
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EPS players need to participate in at least 3 cups EAS players only in at least 2,, because they are not guaranteed to have the spot for every cup
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I think bigs has good chances of winning this EPS, at least if he plays offline as well as online.
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Hasu and DF playing 2 hours for a bo3...
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On March 21 2012 08:09 RageCommodore wrote: mad bo3 O_O
Well, that happens when the two strongest macro oriented players in Germany face each other.
Now the mouz duel in the finals, I like
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On March 21 2012 08:06 Champloo wrote: Hasu and DF playing 2 hours for a bo3...
biGs vs Hasu could go as long as that.
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damn, again so much content to watch
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Goody is out - tanks are crying
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the players should pull themselves together, there are viewers with working duties tomorrow!
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On March 21 2012 08:18 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:06 Champloo wrote: Hasu and DF playing 2 hours for a bo3... biGs vs Hasu could go as long as that.
I feel like every pvz with Hasu can go that long lately.
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seeing hasu on top makes me happy and recalls WC3 memories still, I want Darkforce to take the whole thing, since he impressed me the most in competition with the international scene during the last months.
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The quarterfinals will be played in cologne this saturday. No idea what time they will start, can't find any info on that. Also seems like kara can't come so Delphi (rank 9) will replace him!
Cloud vs Socke Darkforce vs Monchi Bigs vs Delphi Hasuobs vs Rine
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On March 29 2012 06:32 Champloo wrote: The quarterfinals will be played in cologne this saturday. No idea what time they will start, can't find any info on that. Also seems like kara can't come so Delphi (rank 9) will replace him!
Cloud vs Socke Darkforce vs Monchi Bigs vs Delphi Hasuobs vs Rine http://de.beta.esl.tv/schedule/isng-hasuobs-vs-rine/2012/03/ 15:00 Hasuobs vs Rine 16:30 Darkforce vs Monchi 18:00 Socke vs Cloud 19:30 bigs vs Delphi
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OP updated once again. Looking forward to tomorrow's matches, quite excited to see everyone's feedback on our brand new ESL.tv studio. If you are interested to see some pictures of the construction process, look here: http://www.esl.eu/de/pro-series/spring_2012/gallery/?event=689
Kaelaris will be streaming all matches in English, TaKe will be on site to stream in German. Hope you all tune in: Show starting on Saturday at 15:00 CET!
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On March 30 2012 21:45 Shawngood wrote:OP updated once again. Looking forward to tomorrow's matches, quite excited to see everyone's feedback on our brand new ESL.tv studio. If you are interested to see some pictures of the construction process, look here: http://www.esl.eu/de/pro-series/spring_2012/gallery/?event=689Kaelaris will be streaming all matches in English, TaKe will be on site to stream in German. Hope you all tune in: Show starting on Saturday at 15:00 CET!
Great! I'm really looking forward to the matches and the new location
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Would be funny if Socke wins the whole tour again ^^
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you should give a look at ClouD's prematch statement... worth it!
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On March 30 2012 22:59 LeLfe wrote: you should give a look at ClouD's prematch statement... worth it!
Where did you find a statement? I never found one that is current T_T
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On March 30 2012 22:59 LeLfe wrote: you should give a look at ClouD's prematch statement... worth it!
It made my day, ClouD is such a troll! Predicting a Socke vs Hasu Final, but ClouD and bigs can't be counted out.
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hahaha ClouD such a troll =) <3
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I really looking forward to the Show tomorrow! The new Studio will be great for sure, and TaKe´s casting will be as good as always. I hope you find a Co-Caster like NarutO or DBS, that would be awsome!
And...Gogo Hasu, Rine and Socke!!!
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lol @ ClouD's pregame statement
+ Show Spoiler +"socke has long hairs like a hobo and he doesn't cut his beard. he also drinks too much beer and his belly is way too fat. there's no way i can lose. 3-0 easy."
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On March 31 2012 00:46 KalWarkov wrote:lol @ ClouD's pregame statement+ Show Spoiler +"socke has long hairs like a hobo and he doesn't cut his beard. he also drinks too much beer and his belly is way too fat. there's no way i can lose. 3-0 easy."
why using a spoiler when it's written 3posts above?
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Oh man ESL...I really like the EPS and im looking forward to tomorrow but the match statements are such a cool thing to work with, why do you hide them behind a small "vs" in the brackets which is almost impossible to find for someone who doesnt browse on the ESL site everyday =/
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Most people used to read these statements at readmore.de (the editor seems to not include them anymore). I think the ESL doesn't expect people to look for coverage on their website anymore. Maybe these could be included into the OP here.
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So pumped for this! I hope Delphi does the best with his new chance and makes it far, even if I think that biGs has really strong ZvZ.
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1 day left! Excited to see the new studio. Does anyone know how many spectators will be live in the studio?
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there will only be like a few people plus the people the players bring with them.
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On March 31 2012 02:54 DarKFoRcE wrote: there will only be like a few people plus the people the players bring with them.
Darkforce bringing his 50-headed family clan with him I guess?!
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Hmm, wish I had more time, so that i could follow the action live, too. On the other hand, it might be wise to check the VoDs of the recommended games, so I don't need to watch all the boring maps
hfgl ESL, hope this league will flourish in the future. Tho I'm a little afraid of the level of games at the moment, we're so spoiled by GSL and all the other events... might be too few big names and too few drama (cuz many of the players are rather unkown, which might change tho). *edit* Just remember the times when Naniwa, Demuslim and Cloud moved to Germany just to play in EPS - just the latter is still there :< Nevertheless its a good thing that nani is gone, some more "star-players" would be nice imo
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All ready, go show me some good matches guys :-)
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On March 31 2012 18:54 TumNarDok wrote: All ready, go show me some good matches guys :-)
Same here dude! :D Just woke up and got ready to watch the stream!
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I will not be casting EPS today sorry due to my throat being very soar and I don't really want to shred it any further. Sorry for the inconvenience guys. Catch you at CPH games broadcast if you tune in.
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On March 31 2012 19:54 mouzKaelaris wrote: I will not be casting EPS today sorry due to my throat being very soar and I don't really want to shred it any further. Sorry for the inconvenience guys. Catch you at CPH games broadcast if you tune in. Sorry to hear that. 
Martijn from GLHF.tv will be stepping in to bring the matches to all English speaking viewers.
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Are this the finals or just some matches?
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On March 31 2012 21:38 sa1330 wrote: Are this the finals or just some matches?
It's the quarter finals afaik.
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Next up: EPS Spring Playoffs Ro8 Saturday, March 31st, 14:00 CET
Only RO8 today, 4x BO5
Match 1: HasuObs vs. RINE Match 2: DarKFoRcE vs. monchi Match 3: ClouD vs. Socke Match 4: biGs vs. Delphi
.. this seems the finals event i guess? BenQ Spring Finals - 28. und 29. April 2012
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Wow, is this a studio or a bar Looks great!
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Looking good. Pumped for the matchups!
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This looks awesome already, has been a long time since I've been this excited for something eps related!
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No streams attached to the event in the calendar. Again.
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On March 31 2012 22:06 Champloo wrote: No streams attached to the event in the calendar. Again.
Yeah but im not sure if that is ESLs fault, last time they mentioned sth. that TL didnt do it despite the request or so.
The new studio looks super nice!
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Already pumped studio looks very good btw
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On March 31 2012 22:10 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 22:06 Champloo wrote: No streams attached to the event in the calendar. Again. Yeah but im not sure if that is ESLs fault, last time they mentioned sth. that TL didnt do it despite the request or so. The new studio looks super nice! Once the event is on, there is no need for a request. But relax, there is currently no game started.
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Great production value, huge props to ESL.
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Wow the new studio looks awesome =)
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Click "Premium" on the ESL page and you will see
BETA-Notice: During this stage of beta, the whole Account-Handling remains on the old ESL TV Page. Therefore you have to get Premium and your HD Pass at the old tv.esl.eu Site. Thank you. (And yeah, this will change 
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I love Austrian accent
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Rine must be kicking himself now, he should have won this game.
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On March 31 2012 22:29 Titorelli wrote:I love Austrian accent 
Not only the accent, Monchi doing a good job.
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Wp Hasu.. but poor Rine. I bet he's really angry at himself right now, he basically had that game won :<
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Yay, sound is ok now on the English stream!
GG, Hasu!
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On March 31 2012 22:50 RageCommodore wrote: Wp Hasu.. but poor Rine. I bet he's really angry at himself right now, he basically had that game won :<
just look at this face but hasu didn t do bad, so he deserves the win
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On March 31 2012 22:47 SinCitta wrote:Not only the accent, Monchi doing a good job. Yeah of course. Like all pro's casting his is awesome!
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event is running for one hour and stream still isn't linked to the event
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I don't understand why though. I had to submit the calendar entry twice and the stream is listed in there. Is it because it's German only? Because only GLHF.tv is listed right now.
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Oh wow RINE, why? You had this man...
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i believe normally the streams are linked to one TL account and they can link the streams to the event in the stream settings dunno who has control over the esl streams... probably someone in #teamliquid might be able to help
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Hasu is just too good in PvP.
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I guess, thats the difference between a player, who can play on an international level and a normal grandmaster. wp by Hasu
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RINE threw those two games away. He had a solid advantage G1 and he should've won G2.
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On March 31 2012 23:09 Shawngood wrote: I don't understand why though. I had to submit the calendar entry twice and the stream is listed in there. Is it because it's German only? Because only GLHF.tv is listed right now. I think you just can attach it to the event; look here. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6499422
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On March 31 2012 23:12 Der_Magen wrote: i believe normally the streams are linked to one TL account and they can link the streams to the event in the stream settings dunno who has control over the esl streams... probably someone in #teamliquid might be able to help
The ESL.tv stream is live and featured... But marked as LoL stream. Not sure, but maybe a stream marked with LoL can't be added to an event coz they are bw and sc2 only?
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He choked hardcore... again :<
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On March 31 2012 23:15 morbvs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 23:12 Der_Magen wrote: i believe normally the streams are linked to one TL account and they can link the streams to the event in the stream settings dunno who has control over the esl streams... probably someone in #teamliquid might be able to help The ESL.tv stream is live and featured... But marked as LoL stream. Not sure, but maybe a stream marked with LoL can't be added to an event coz they are bw and sc2 only? Well, the owner of the stream can change the associated game too...can't be too hard I think.
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Yeah, just change it to sc2.
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I believe Mr. Bitter added that stream to TeamLiquid last IEM season. I can't do that... 
Edit: Nvm, fixed now.
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Rine is actually going to lose three games in a row, after having a lead in all three of them...
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That happens when you have a bad unit control and make bad decisions.
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On March 31 2012 23:31 Psyclon wrote: Rine is actually going to lose three games in a row, after having a lead in all three of them...
so sad
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Either RINE is the worst ever player at capitalising on a lead or Hasu is the greatest comeback pvper of all time exluding DT usage. I suspect it's the former. Those games were hilarious.
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Rine is just missing offline experience and Hasu is a cold killer in these situations.
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On March 31 2012 23:32 ComusLoM wrote: Either RINE is the worst ever player at capitalising on a lead or Hasu is the greatest comeback pvper of all time exluding DT usage. I suspect it's the former. Those games were hilarious.
I think it is a mix of both. Rine had pretty bad decision making, but Hasu is known for his extreme good micro, that often wins him engagements, where he is in the worse position.
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lol Ulis voice changed since i last heard him in his Broodwar Casts.
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I love how ESL values his own brand EPS with such a good production by ESL.TV. See a bright future for this event series.
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Darkforce vs Monchi should be a close fight. Zerg powerrrrrr!
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studio looks awesome pros casting with take cant get any better
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On March 31 2012 23:50 robih wrote: cant get any better
It could be better if it was in English, but i totally understand why it's in German.
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Have to give ESL TV a huge pat on the back for the great work with the studio, it's really awesome to see it in person, looking forward to hopefully seeing more of it in the future!
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It seems like the game sound currently comes from Hasu's POV while the images come from Dennis' pc
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On April 01 2012 00:06 Der_Magen wrote: It seems like the game sound currently comes from Hasu's POV while the images come from Dennis' pc Thanks for the heads up, should be fixed now.
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really good production. 100% above my expectations. good job esl
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10k mins for monchi......
200 army supply :D
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Germany3367 Posts
Darkforce with his trademark parasite, nice nice!
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That was a massacre 24+ broodlords, sickness!
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200 supply protoss army didnt even manage to kill 20 supply of the zerg -_____- ^^ i hate that protoss is so dependent from the mothership in these lategame battles but really smart move by darkforce.
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On April 01 2012 00:23 ShoWTimE94 wrote: 200 supply protoss army didnt even manage to kill 20 supply of the zerg -_____- ^^ i hate that protoss is so dependent from the mothership in these lategame battles but really smart move by darkforce.
Well, how about this - zerg is on creep, on high ground, with broodlord/infestor, protoss comes in from just one side and manages to push back the zerg, killing a hatchery in the mean time. And the big battle before that - some really nice forcefields by Monchi and DF can't do absolutely anything.
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Why is Dimaga there?
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I´m really supried about the new Studio. It seems to be sooo big...wow!
Really nice to see that TaKe and good players are casting this awesome matches! I love how the EPS is right now, the new system with 3 Seasion per year is very good so far.
And obvisly....GoGo Socke!
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On April 01 2012 00:58 Pyloss wrote: I´m really supried about the new Studio. It seems to be sooo big...wow!
Really nice to see that TaKe and good players are casting this awesome matches! I love how the EPS is right now, the new system with 3 Seasion per year is very good so far.
And obvisly....GoGo Socke!
Yeah, the cup system is really cool, the new studio is great, 3 seasons per year is much better than 2 (at least in SC2). Good job ESL, the EPS 2012 is twice as good as 2011!
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On April 01 2012 01:00 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 00:58 Pyloss wrote: I´m really supried about the new Studio. It seems to be sooo big...wow!
Really nice to see that TaKe and good players are casting this awesome matches! I love how the EPS is right now, the new system with 3 Seasion per year is very good so far.
And obvisly....GoGo Socke! Yeah, the cup system is really cool, the new studio is great, 3 seasons per year is much better than 2 (at least in SC2). Good job ESL, the EPS 2012 is twice as good as 2011!
Yep, very impressed with the production quality this time, and the cup system definetely is an improvement
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collosi focusing single roaches, way to win
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Yo, best EPS since the wc3 days.
I'm a bit afraid we will see 3-0 in all 4 games tho. Bigs seemed very strong in the last two cups, dunno how good his zvz is tho. And Socke's pvt could be too much for Cloud.
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haha Darkforce <3 such a funny guy
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awesome event, i like it!
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Very much agree, I much prefer this format and the setup is excellent. Great work!
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Now it`s getting interesting as both have ot a lot to lose. If Socke loses his reigning days in the EPS are over in the case of Cloud it`s the curse of never really making it far despite overall being solid.
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On April 01 2012 01:17 Ippo wrote: awesome event, i like it! Same here. I'm impressed so far. The interviewer/host guy is pretty good, too, which makes the interviews and filler content kinda nice. International tournaments should watch this closely.
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I wonder if ESL is considering adding a Studio IEM to the IEM calendar. Could be pretty nice...
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has a nice soccer atmosphere, beer, food, great, really great!
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i really like the new EPS^^
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Now the match I've been waiting for, Socke vs Cloud.
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nice studio and nice production.better than the NASL-greenscreen-studio xd rotti..why?
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I don't know why i always underestimate Cloud, i thought Socke would win easily.
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On April 01 2012 01:47 claash wrote: nice studio and nice production.better than the NASL-greenscreen-studio xd rotti..why?
Money? Women? Maybe he has become too dependent on Bitter and he just had to follow him?
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that's TT1 behind Socke right?
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eem is that tt1 sitting behind socke?...
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Yes it is. ReaL and PhoeNix from Type Gaming are here as well. They are all staying (and practicing) in the Type Gaming house in Düsseldorf, Germany which is about 30 minutes away from Cologne and the ESL TV studio.
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On April 01 2012 01:58 zocktol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 01:47 claash wrote: nice studio and nice production.better than the NASL-greenscreen-studio xd rotti..why? Money? Women? Maybe he has become too dependent on Bitter and he just had to follow him?
i would rather prefer a solid long term european/german company than an american company that always risks too much i remember the last nasl-season..and ye..what should i say.i hope that our rotti wont fall on his face.
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Really great production and event! I have to fully agree with all of you guys! EPS is awesome and means to me just as much as GSL MLG DH or whatever. Just like the German Bundesliga for football
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On April 01 2012 02:05 claash wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 01:58 zocktol wrote:On April 01 2012 01:47 claash wrote: nice studio and nice production.better than the NASL-greenscreen-studio xd rotti..why? Money? Women? Maybe he has become too dependent on Bitter and he just had to follow him? i would rather prefer a solid long term european/german company than an american company that always risks too much i remember the last nasl-season..and ye..what should i say.i hope that our rotti wont fall on his face. yeah I'm not happy about that move either. meh :/
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On April 01 2012 02:03 Shawngood wrote:Yes it is. ReaL and PhoeNix from Type Gaming are here as well. They are all staying (and practicing) in the Type Gaming house in Düsseldorf, Germany which is about 30 minutes away from Cologne and the ESL TV studio.
as additional info: TT1 stayed and still stays in the Type house to train with them and on the EU server for IPL
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Hm usually the site directed me to premium automatically when i click this link: http://de.beta.esl.tv/channel/esltv-event/
But now I just get the normal stream, any other way to get to the premium stream? ESL.tv seems to be down.
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Cloud deserves to be happy - he is a cool guy. But to be honest Socke played really bad. He made so many mistakes, it`s hard to point them all out. (losing stalkers to marines, no reaction when helions got dropped in his eco, being supply blocked several times.)
edit: the new Studio looks cool. Good job by ESL.
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Damn, Sockes play was really disappointing today T_T oh well, he's gonna do it next time again
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On April 01 2012 02:46 Uracil wrote: socke out. So sad.
He played really bad At least i'm happy for Cloud, he deserves a little bit more attention and success
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Well, Socke winning it for the 4th time in a row would have been a little anti-climactic.
Cloud fighting!
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socke is somewhat inconsistent it seems oO beats STC and others in PvT at MLG, and now loses to cloud - which isnt too bad cause cloud got so much better lately - but how he lost it is kind of disappointing.
GZ to cloud, i rly wish he makes it at least to the final, he so much deserves to win sth^^
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I think Cloud worked really hard in preperation for this match and he deserves this win. Solid, different builds on every map! He also seemed so happy after that win.
Time for a new champion, gogo Hasu!!
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On April 01 2012 02:50 KalWarkov wrote: socke is somewhat inconsistent it seems oO beats STC and others in PvT at MLG, and now loses to cloud - which isnt too bad cause cloud got so much better lately - but how he lost it is kind of disappointing.
GZ to cloud, i rly wish he makes it at least to the final, he so much deserves to win sth^^
Hasu said that it might be the jetlag, as Socke had much less time to recover than Hasu (who said himself that he was really affected by the jetlag). He maid a few uncharacteristic mistakes :/ But really well played by Cloud! Really cool that he made it now I only hope that he's right and Alternate can make top 3
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6,2k viewer for german only eps stream, so awesome!
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At the start of Socke vs Cloud there were around 7500+ viewers on german stream + premium and additional 700+ on english stream. I hope this event is a success for ESL!
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On April 01 2012 02:58 teddyoojo wrote: 6,2k viewer for german only eps stream, so awesome!
I think, it peaked at 7.2k during Socke-Cloud.
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No Goody? Easy win for Cloud
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Goody didn't make it to the playoffs (he was only 13th rank this season)
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TaKe degraded to saying only "ja" with Darkforce as a "co"-caster :D
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On April 01 2012 03:16 SinCitta wrote: TaKe degraded to saying only "ja" with Darkforce as a "co"-caster :D
He's called Talkforce for a reason after all :D
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Haha :D DF takes the command!
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I feel sorry for all non-german speakers. Darkforce is giving some excellent insight in the matchup and analyses every move on the fly. great commentary by him.
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Darkforce is the best solo-caster. :D
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On April 01 2012 03:36 StarVe wrote: Darkforce is the best solo-caster. :D solo? Darkforce is the best dual-caster! :D
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Yep, DF casting owns! Monchi and Hasu casting was great too.
Looking good for Delphi in game 2, gogo!
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On April 01 2012 03:37 zul wrote:solo? Darkforce is the best dual-caster! :D
I don't see any evidence that he's dual-casting at the moment. Sounds like a solo-cast to me.
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On April 01 2012 03:18 zul wrote:I feel sorry for all non-german speakers. Darkforce is giving some excellent insight in the matchup and analyses every move on the fly. great commentary by him.  indeed. excellent commentary by Darkforce.
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On April 01 2012 03:38 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 03:37 zul wrote:On April 01 2012 03:36 StarVe wrote: Darkforce is the best solo-caster. :D solo? Darkforce is the best dual-caster! :D I don't see any evidence that he's dual-casting at the moment.  Sounds like a solo-cast to me. he is casting with himself :D sometimes he disagrees with himself. man, I am loling so hard irl. you gotta love that guy.
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LOL DF so upset with Delphi's play, he sounds like his dorky dad :D
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bigs is playing so much better.
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The production from ESL is really nice, but in all 4 series, the quality of games is just bad. The losers all just made several terrible mistakes
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oh Delphi... how one non existant Overseer can decide a game.
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4fester hitsquad strikes again :C
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broodlord infestor spine all night long *sings*. wow delphi lost to the ground sharks, they are deadly in zvz though since in the other matchups luckily people skip range attack.
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DF commentatiing is just too awesome. I'm laughing so hard :D
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Delphi is making DF sick with his play xD
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Germany3367 Posts
Delphi just the same as RINE, always getting the advantage and then destroying himself...^^
And awesome casting by DF !
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Haha, it is pretty hilarious. UNITCONTROL!
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I hope delphi recovers well, after he was hit by this truck called "bigs". #owned
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On April 01 2012 03:46 Malinor wrote:The production from ESL is really nice, but in all 4 series, the quality of games is just bad. The losers all just made several terrible mistakes 
Yeah, that's quite unfortunate. But I think for the semis and the finals, I'm sure we'll see much better games.
Is the date for the finals already known?
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So basically the first ISNG has produced 6hours of entertainment without any problems, delay or annoying downtimes. Great great great job by ESL!
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Germany3367 Posts
Uhhh Streaming by DF I am looking forward to that =)
Awesome production by ESL, awesome studio, awesome casting. Gogo EPS!
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Great imporvement, this is how events in 2012 shoudl be  Now add an english cast and a bit more advertisement for it!
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very well done. I like it. Looking forward to the finals.
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On April 01 2012 04:14 KalWarkov wrote:Great imporvement, this is how events in 2012 shoudl be  Now add an english cast and a bit more advertisement for it!
Yeah, sad thing that Kaelaris had to cancel, otherwise I think the english stream would've had much more views.
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Well GLHF.tv did an excellent job. Quality stream there.
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anybody knows when ro4&finals are happening ? cant find any info
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On April 01 2012 05:04 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 04:14 KalWarkov wrote:Great imporvement, this is how events in 2012 shoudl be  Now add an english cast and a bit more advertisement for it! Yeah, sad thing that Kaelaris had to cancel, otherwise I think the english stream would've had much more views.
I'll be expressing interest to join in on more EPS casts in the future! Especially considering I had to pull out at such a late time.. I owe them
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OP updated as the final four matches are coming up on this Sunday. First we will have biGs vs. ClouD at 11:00 CEST and at around 13:30 CEST it will be HasuObs vs. DarKFoRcE. The finals will be in the evening then.
All games will be broadcast in German (by TaKe) and in English (by Kaelaris). Looking forward to it!
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DF vs Cloud final pls, I want Darkforce getting his first EPS title 
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HasuObs vs Darkforce bo5 gonna take like 5 hours, so the finals will literally be in the evening. :D
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On April 25 2012 23:30 Champloo wrote: HasuObs vs Darkforce bo5 gonna take like 5 hours, so the finals will literally be in the evening. :D lategame PvZ incoming.
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So would people be satisfied/dissatisfied if I were to pick up the streaming in English again today?
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I'm glad to hear that. As long as someone'll like it, it's worth doing. Unless something changed in the last few hours. I'll step in to substitute for Kaelaris again today. I was told he wouldn't be able to make it just the other day. Sorry for the inconvenience and for people that were looking forward to Kaelaris casting, but I'll do my best to put on a worthy show.
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I´m so hyped for this event!
It will be great for sure, all matches seems to be close...so we´ll have 4 delicious matches incoming!
I´m looking forward to Takes and Monchis Cast aswell.
GoGo Hasu!
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Isn't it unfair that you can watch the english stream in 720p, but to get the main ESL stream in 720p you need a premium
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I'm sure you'll do good Martijn! I'm pretty sad I'm not able to cast these kind of tours anymore T_T, but I guess you can't have it all in life, in stead I can deal with wild crocodiles and daily earthquakes now . Cheering for Hasu and Cloud, and as much as I would love to see them both in the final it would tear me apart to have to choose sides ^^, I'll try to watch but its already 2 am ttt, anyways German EPS is always a great event to watch, wish it was more known in the SC2 scene, ESL always puts up a great show and the games are often top notch, the finals between Socke and Hasu was one of the most fun casts I ever did.
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For all German viewers: monchi will be commentating the matches together with TaKe. ClouD vs. biGs coming up in a couple of minutes now!
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Just between you and me Rotti; Wel winnen vandaag! Wil thuis kampioen worden, dus wij gaan voor gelijk spel D:
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lol where did cloud his army go oO, i really thought Bigs overdid it a bit with the corrupters but boy was I ever wrong ^^, the seeker missles looked good too but apparently it wasnt enough, hmm I felt cloud did so much right that game, was his to lose t_t
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Cloud should have been able to close this game out during midgame. I believe he was on 8 rax the entire time. If he adds 4more rax with reactors and keeps on dropping (he was at 5k mins at the 25minute mark or so), he should have finally won just because bigs would never have secured enough bases. And these endgame fights are just extremely unpredictable.
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he needed some ghost with emp and nukes in super super late game
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On April 29 2012 18:49 RotterdaM wrote: lol where did cloud his army go oO, i really thought Bigs overdid it a bit with the corrupters but boy was I ever wrong ^^, the seeker missles looked good too but apparently it wasnt enough, hmm I felt cloud did so much right that game, was his to lose t_t i came here hoping someone would explain why Cloud's army got destroyed like that despite the seeker missiles. but apparently i'm not the only one who's surprised by the outcome of that game after Cloud did so well in the midgame :/
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4 ravens not enough you need like 12 vs that army comp, but bigs is #1 brood/infestor player I know, really hard to beat him in this stage. Also no ghost to deal with infestors so yeh you are going to get rofl stomped like that if zerg doesnt screw up fungals.
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I'm hoping for a Hasuobs vs Cloud final.
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lol @ cloud being supplyblocked at 185 for over 2 minutes :D
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Good Games so far!
Why is the stream still not listed under the event? :D
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these games make no sense :D just sad to watch cloud throwing it away big time
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Cloud should have won this series. I am sad.
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Happy for BiGs, but Cloud really should have won that series. Especially the last game. T_T
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Horrible questions in that interview right there...
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did anyone catch the uppgrades from Cloud in the last games?
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It has nothing to do with the race but more with the fact that Cloud looked very well prepared for the early stage but crumbled after 15 mins. But in that case it is more his incapability to keep the pressure up and to benefit from his superior economy.
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cloud is such a marine tank guy, but he often crumbles after 3/3, also no marine split at all vs the fungals, seemed like a bad day for him
hope his spirit isnt crushed too hard
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@Ramon: Well in an interview on the Alternate homepage he mentioned that his focus isnt really on the game atm, that he practices little etc. so I guess his spirit is somewhat broken. His last results weren`t too great either. I`m by no means his fan but I generally respect his play and his commitment but I think he really needs to pull himself together and go all-in in his effort to become a top tier player cause otherwise I don`t think that he will get the results that make a progaming career worthwile.
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That's such an annoying schedule.
Why didn't they just put the WoT finals before or after the SC2 games instead of right in the middle of them? I don't think there are many SC2 fans interested in WoT at all. I just hope there won't be WoT between the 2nd semifinal and the grandfinal aswell...
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I just saw the most beautiful girl in esports, live on ESL TV. she looked like liv tyler. <3
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On April 29 2012 21:11 zul wrote: I just saw the most beautiful girl in esports, live on ESL TV. she looked like liv tyler. <3
Yeah whats up with that, I don't even know her.. can somebody tell me who she is?^^
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"Social Media Expert" at ESL TV.
Go for your fourth German championship, Hasu!
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On April 29 2012 21:15 Ragoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 21:11 zul wrote: I just saw the most beautiful girl in esports, live on ESL TV. she looked like liv tyler. <3
Yeah whats up with that, I don't even know her.. can somebody tell me who she is?^^
well, all I know is that she has a turkish sounding given name. Melek, I think ?! And you obviously didn't watch the EPS Studio event, when they had her AND the prettiest and sweetest bar girl ever there...
![[image loading]](http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/esl-pro-series/spring-2012/isng/sc2/bilder/eps-sc2-isng-couch.jpg)
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On April 29 2012 21:32 morbvs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 21:15 Ragoo wrote:On April 29 2012 21:11 zul wrote: I just saw the most beautiful girl in esports, live on ESL TV. she looked like liv tyler. <3
Yeah whats up with that, I don't even know her.. can somebody tell me who she is?^^ well, all I know is that she has a turkish sounding given name. Melek, I think ?! And you obviously didn't watch the EPS Studio event, when they had her AND the prettiest and sweetest bar girl ever there... + Show Spoiler + ah, I remember that other girl too. also very cute
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Carrier in lategame PvZ. Always good to see.
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at least no 0:3. cmon Darkforce!
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On April 29 2012 21:59 Uracil wrote: Carrier in lategame PvZ. Always good to see.
for the zerg^^
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Mind-boogling how Hasu always sent his whole army from the third to the natural to the main and back to the third and not once split his forces. Of course in the end he did not have enough anymore, but I don't see a reason why you would expect Darkforce to stop with the agression.
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what a boring series -____-
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show beautiful girl again, please! :D
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And he is really 6pooling. Damn <.<
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phoenix with range make mutas obsolete
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 29 2012 21:32 morbvs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 21:15 Ragoo wrote:On April 29 2012 21:11 zul wrote: I just saw the most beautiful girl in esports, live on ESL TV. she looked like liv tyler. <3
Yeah whats up with that, I don't even know her.. can somebody tell me who she is?^^ well, all I know is that she has a turkish sounding given name. Melek, I think ?! And you obviously didn't watch the EPS Studio event, when they had her AND the prettiest and sweetest bar girl ever there... ![[image loading]](http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/esl-pro-series/spring-2012/isng/sc2/bilder/eps-sc2-isng-couch.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/esl-pro-series/spring-2012/isng/sc2/bilder/eps-sc2-isng-bastian-veiser-im-gespraech.jpg) Melli is short for Melanie.
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holy shit darkforce is so nervous, i could see it after 1 sec :D or it just looks like it.
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On April 29 2012 23:14 grs wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On April 29 2012 21:32 morbvs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 21:15 Ragoo wrote:On April 29 2012 21:11 zul wrote: I just saw the most beautiful girl in esports, live on ESL TV. she looked like liv tyler. <3
Yeah whats up with that, I don't even know her.. can somebody tell me who she is?^^ well, all I know is that she has a turkish sounding given name. Melek, I think ?! And you obviously didn't watch the EPS Studio event, when they had her AND the prettiest and sweetest bar girl ever there... ![[image loading]](http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/esl-pro-series/spring-2012/isng/sc2/bilder/eps-sc2-isng-couch.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/esl-pro-series/spring-2012/isng/sc2/bilder/eps-sc2-isng-bastian-veiser-im-gespraech.jpg) Melli is short for Melanie. Nope her name is Melek.
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there she is again ... so beautiful
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On April 29 2012 22:30 JayJay_90 wrote: what a boring series -____-
Are you drunk? Hasu going up 2-0 and Darkforce bringing it back to 2-2 and going for a risky 6 pool in the last game. You really want to see Protoss 2 base all ins every game?
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I dont know why, but the german audience seems to disappoint me nearly every event. TaKe is asking for applause after every well thought out move ... I keep on clapping and could not make it cause I am ill^^
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On April 29 2012 23:22 Baum wrote:Are you drunk? Hasu going up 2-0 and Darkforce bringing it back to 2-2 and going for a risky 6 pool in the last game. You really want to see Protoss 2 base all ins every game? I wish i was, then maybe it would have been more entertaining.
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GoGo Hasu
Just a little feedback after ~15-20 mins of watching:
-audio is out of sync -twitch.tv commercial starts randomly in the middle of a sentence (because of stream delay ?!)
+entertaining +lot of interviews +com feedback included in the show
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Esl amazes again with good organisation and nice tranparent schedule...
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This drags on way too long for 4 matches. Do not mix the different games into one show, just show all cs games first, then WoT and then starcraft or whatever, but this schedule is abyssmal!
The quarterfinals were so well done, I can't believe you fucked this up so hard.
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On April 30 2012 02:45 Champloo wrote: This drags on way too long for 4 matches. Do not mix the different games into one show, just show all cs games first, then WoT and then starcraft or whatever, but this schedule is abyssmal!
The quarterfinals were so well done, I can't believe you fucked this up so hard.
I'm sort of with you on this. The iSNG quarterfinals where absolutely brilliant.
The schedule today was not too bad imho... but they never managed to keep to it. The delays have been way too massive! And also the F*** up when the 3rd place match was live already but the stream was still offline until mid-game on map 2...
Edit: + async sound the whole day
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Nothing in this game is as boring as ZvP very late game.
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On April 29 2012 23:25 [RS]Fuchs wrote: GoGo Hasu
Just a little feedback after ~15-20 mins of watching:
-audio is out of sync -twitch.tv commercial starts randomly in the middle of a sentence (because of stream delay ?!)
+entertaining +lot of interviews +com feedback included in the show
send them feedback on their facebook page they will respond you and then they will read your feedback i ve already done this last time
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gratz hasu, very well played today
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Hasu new champion!! Nice.
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what a fresh surprise - a protoss won eps
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congrats hasu!
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Hasu deserves this win so badly.
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I like how on every check there is already Hasuobs in winning pose : D
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hasuobs deserved victory, should have won last season against xlord and socke in the two final cups imho
just happy right now
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On April 30 2012 04:54 DRHAPPY wrote: I like how on every check there is already Hasuobs in winning pose : D Ya even through Socke won all the previous Seasons of SC2. Also they miss placed 3. place to left and 2. place to right. Small details but if I would be pissed, if were a photographer there^^
Besides these details it was a great Event!
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Congrats Hasu! Well deserved win
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Grats Hasu! Does that make him the first player to win an EPS in 2 games?
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On April 30 2012 05:06 Martijn wrote: Grats Hasu! Does that make him the first player to win an EPS in 2 games?
as far as i know yes
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Congratz Hasu! Was about time for another EPS title!
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Congratulations Hasu! He really was the strongest player this season, nice to see his eps legend continue even in sc2 
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On April 30 2012 05:07 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 05:06 Martijn wrote: Grats Hasu! Does that make him the first player to win an EPS in 2 games? as far as i know yes i think nooky might have won it in cs 1.6 and cs:s, but i'm not 100% sure if he actually won it in 1.6
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Damn I missed the finals. Gratz Hasu!
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Missed the last two games, but gratz Hasu. Will watch the vods.
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On April 30 2012 05:12 JayJay_90 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 05:07 KalWarkov wrote:On April 30 2012 05:06 Martijn wrote: Grats Hasu! Does that make him the first player to win an EPS in 2 games? as far as i know yes i think nooky might have won it in cs 1.6 and cs:s, but i'm not 100% sure if he actually won it in 1.6
Not sure either, but I think nooky won "just" the MVP title in css & cs 1.6 ...
congratz hasu! would love to see you going hardcore training mode and start winning big international tournaments as well ... no doubt that u are capable of
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Gratz Hasu!
Very well played season!
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Cool, I didn't know about that :O
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