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iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5361
On March 03 2012 19:55 mango_destroyer wrote:
That was the best GSL season by far, probably had to do with the format change as well.

Yep and I´m really glad I paid for it. Great damn season and Hot6 also is a great sponsor. They really bettered on every front.
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5362
On March 03 2012 19:56 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:54 zeehar wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:49 bokchoi wrote:
MLG is considered a major championship


nope

only major championship in sc2 right now is the gsl

the lineup as mlg seems like it could be gsl worthy though, but yeah, MKP still has to win his GSL.

To leave the line of kong, you have to overcome the competition that put you there to begin with.
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5363
So happy for DRG! He really deserves it after he started going on a rampage!
GZ DRG!!
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5364
Gratz DRG!!!, well deserved
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5365
On March 03 2012 19:54 TheKefka wrote:
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On March 03 2012 19:53 Inflicted_ wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:52 kusto wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:51 Yaki wrote:
So happy for DRG but at the same time I'm sad for Genius and as he said he will most likely not make it to another finals.


Why did he say that?


Probably lack of motivation combined with possiblity of Protoss nerf/being figured out.

Rofl,you just pulled that one out of your ass hard core.
He needs to join the army soon.

He's only 20 ... Will it really be soon o_o
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5366
On March 03 2012 19:56 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:53 SeaSwift wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:51 Dodgin wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:49 bokchoi wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:48 crawlingchaos wrote:
So is MKP back to resident kong of SC2?


MLG is considered a major championship and as long as you have one major championship you're no longer really a kong. On top of that MKP took out DRG who is snow a GSL champion which further legitimizes his championship IMO


Winter Arena = not a korean starleague


SC2 =|= BW

Winter Arena is a big enough event to disqualify MKP from the Kong Line, IMO.

There just aren't any Kongs in SC2 any more.


One does not simply "leave" the Kong line. Once you join you are forever solidified as a Kong. That applies to Fantasy, Jangbi, Stork and for SC2 MKP. MKP is the only player to make it to multiple (3) GSL finals and not win one.

And no, Winter Arena does not count when half the representation aren't even Korean players.


It's actually only 2 unless you count Code A. And if we count Code A then Puzzle is a GSL champion...
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5367
On March 03 2012 19:51 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:49 bokchoi wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:48 crawlingchaos wrote:
So is MKP back to resident kong of SC2?


MLG is considered a major championship and as long as you have one major championship you're no longer really a kong. On top of that MKP took out DRG who is snow a GSL champion which further legitimizes his championship IMO


Winter Arena = not a korean starleague

This isn't BW, the exact same rules don't apply. SC2 has a big international scene with tournaments like MLG and DH whose fields are just as stacked and difficult to get through as a GSL. While the Winter Arena doesn't break MKP out of the kong line since it was a closed event and a bit of a preliminary, winning the championship in Columbus certainly would.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5368
On March 03 2012 19:53 fant0m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:49 bokchoi wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:48 crawlingchaos wrote:
So is MKP back to resident kong of SC2?


MLG is considered a major championship and as long as you have one major championship you're no longer really a kong. On top of that MKP took out DRG who is snow a GSL champion which further legitimizes his championship IMO


Wow you do not know what kong means.

1) This was not a regular MLG. Do you consider Arena of Legends to be GSL? Cause MKP already won that too.

2) Beating a champion in a special event doesn't make it a major championship.

MKP definitely still the King of Kongs.


Your points are terribly flawed. You're right, this wasn't a normal MLG, in fact the field was much stronger than any other MLG outside of maybe Providence. Sure some of the European's and American's made the field slightly weaker but it was still by far the most stacked tournament outside of Korea.

MKP is still a Kong, but only because you need more than a single championship to get out of the kong line (even Yellow agrees with that).
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:07:21
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5369
On March 03 2012 19:54 DirtyCash wrote:
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On March 03 2012 19:47 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:46 DirtyCash wrote:
the archon trying to sell us everything as "the best ever" is getting old fast


That's exactly what they should be doing.


I'm not sure where to start. Do you watch traditionnal sports?


Oh boy. Continue, please. If you have a point to make, make it - but lose that condescending tone asap.

But if you prefer, I'll clarify - Do I really think they need to make every single little thing sound "the best ever"? No, but I definitely expect them to hype it up, regardless of the reality. I wouldn't expect anything less, and I doubt GOM wouldn't either.

Edit - Or hell - they really could have even believed that it was one of the best finals ever as they were caught up in the moment or genuinely felt that way.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Xax
Profile Joined December 2003
475 Posts
March 03 2012 10:57 GMT
#5370
On March 03 2012 19:53 -Archangel- wrote:
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On March 03 2012 19:50 Xax wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:49 Logo2010 wrote:
Look at it this way, Genius totally outplays DRG in first 3 games, yeah I know he lost game 2, it was a joke build tbh.
Loses game 4, gets BMed by DRG in the booth. Makes mistakes in game 5, gets BMed again. Genius makes more mistakes than ever. The rest is history.

Mind games victory goes to DRG, and you can hear in Genius' speech what he thinks about that. Maybe building carriers is a bit BM but doesn't warrant mid game booth BMing. Considering how tight rules are ingame about chatting only reserved to pp and gg. In between game unspoken rules were broken by DRG imo. Going into another player's booth during a finals no less should not be considered acceptable. The gap at the top is so small and anything can affect you at the highest level. It really takes the shine of DRG's victory and first GSL. Now I look at him in a different light.



Felt really bad about that. Lost a lot of respect for DRG.

You could see how Genius was shaken by that

Lol. You seriously are going to use this as excuse Genius lost?
And not that DRG played better?


Not really an excuse for the loss, but rather disappointed that DRG somehow took this over the top, disrespected his friend quite a bit in my opinion. A thumbs down in his own booth is something else than going into someone elses and dragging his arms up.
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
March 03 2012 10:58 GMT
#5371
Genius had the hardest run to the GSL finals ever.
He 2-0 DRG, 2-0 SC, took out Nestea and MKP then 3-0'd MC and Alive. It's funny how people are saying he sucks now. ^.^

Also Genius and DRG are now 4-4 vs each other.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
March 03 2012 10:58 GMT
#5372
On March 03 2012 19:56 Destructicon wrote:
Ah DRG's story is like the ending of a movie, he gets the trophy, the cash and the girl.

Looking forward to the next season!


let's hope the sequel delivers.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
March 03 2012 10:58 GMT
#5373
Once again thanks to GomTV for another amazing season of GSL!

You guys set the bar so high for esports and starcraft!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
March 03 2012 10:58 GMT
#5374
On March 03 2012 19:53 iamke55 wrote:
So sad that someone had to lose this... while DRG is the more accomplished player, it's incredible that you can beat DRG, sC, MKP, Nestea, MC, and Alive in the same tournament and still leave with the 2nd place trophy.


Yeah, such a great run. I don't think this was the best finals, but the quality of games this season overall was better than any previous.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 03 2012 10:58 GMT
#5375
On March 03 2012 19:57 Hopelessnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:56 vndods wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:54 zeehar wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:49 bokchoi wrote:
MLG is considered a major championship


nope

only major championship in sc2 right now is the gsl

the lineup as mlg seems like it could be gsl worthy though, but yeah, MKP still has to win his GSL.

To leave the line of kong, you have to overcome the competition that put you there to begin with.

you know what, dont compare a 2-month league with a weekend tournament. end of discussion
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
March 03 2012 10:59 GMT
#5376
what genius didn't like is that drg said that the first maps were protoss favored. he said hell make him pay next time for saying that xd.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
March 03 2012 10:59 GMT
#5377
On March 03 2012 19:57 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:53 fant0m wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:49 bokchoi wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:48 crawlingchaos wrote:
So is MKP back to resident kong of SC2?


MLG is considered a major championship and as long as you have one major championship you're no longer really a kong. On top of that MKP took out DRG who is snow a GSL champion which further legitimizes his championship IMO


Wow you do not know what kong means.

1) This was not a regular MLG. Do you consider Arena of Legends to be GSL? Cause MKP already won that too.

2) Beating a champion in a special event doesn't make it a major championship.

MKP definitely still the King of Kongs.


Your points are terribly flawed. You're right, this wasn't a normal MLG, in fact the field was much stronger than any other MLG outside of maybe Providence. Sure some of the European's and American's made the field slightly weaker but it was still by far the most stacked tournament outside of Korea.

MKP is still a Kong, but only because you need more than a single championship to get out of the kong line (even Yellow agrees with that).


I don't know. To me, any tournament with <50k usd prize money is considered a small event to me. Thats how we know which are the tournaments that really matter like the GSLs or MLG providence.
Trashie
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 10:59:53
March 03 2012 10:59 GMT
#5378
On March 03 2012 19:56 Dyspathy wrote:
So am I the only one who enjoyed these finals? Yes, Genius made a lot of mistakes, but like most RTS, games are often decided by the mistakes you do and don't make. I found the games to be highly enjoyable, especially because of Genius's unorthodox play. It's definitely not the worst ever GSL finals, by far.

You're not alone. I loved it. A lot of the games came down to perfect timings from either player. The only thing I really disliked about the finals was Crossfire. I wish they'd stop using that map.

Anyway, DRG! Yes!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 10:59:54
March 03 2012 10:59 GMT
#5379
On March 03 2012 19:57 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:56 setzer wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:53 SeaSwift wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:51 Dodgin wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:49 bokchoi wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:48 crawlingchaos wrote:
So is MKP back to resident kong of SC2?


MLG is considered a major championship and as long as you have one major championship you're no longer really a kong. On top of that MKP took out DRG who is snow a GSL champion which further legitimizes his championship IMO


Winter Arena = not a korean starleague


SC2 =|= BW

Winter Arena is a big enough event to disqualify MKP from the Kong Line, IMO.

There just aren't any Kongs in SC2 any more.


One does not simply "leave" the Kong line. Once you join you are forever solidified as a Kong. That applies to Fantasy, Jangbi, Stork and for SC2 MKP. MKP is the only player to make it to multiple (3) GSL finals and not win one.

And no, Winter Arena does not count when half the representation aren't even Korean players.


It's actually only 2 unless you count Code A. And if we count Code A then Puzzle is a GSL champion...


GSL WC's are counted as an official GSL by Gom.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 03 2012 10:59 GMT
#5380
On March 03 2012 19:57 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 19:56 setzer wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:53 SeaSwift wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:51 Dodgin wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:49 bokchoi wrote:
On March 03 2012 19:48 crawlingchaos wrote:
So is MKP back to resident kong of SC2?


MLG is considered a major championship and as long as you have one major championship you're no longer really a kong. On top of that MKP took out DRG who is snow a GSL champion which further legitimizes his championship IMO


Winter Arena = not a korean starleague


SC2 =|= BW

Winter Arena is a big enough event to disqualify MKP from the Kong Line, IMO.

There just aren't any Kongs in SC2 any more.


One does not simply "leave" the Kong line. Once you join you are forever solidified as a Kong. That applies to Fantasy, Jangbi, Stork and for SC2 MKP. MKP is the only player to make it to multiple (3) GSL finals and not win one.

And no, Winter Arena does not count when half the representation aren't even Korean players.


It's actually only 2 unless you count Code A. And if we count Code A then Puzzle is a GSL champion...


World Championship is considered by GOM to be an official GSL event, unlike AoL and KoK. That makes three for MKP.
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