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Ehhhh, I mean I watched it a little bit for free and didn't think it's worth the money. MLG will be doing the better and real events for free still. Just don't feel like I'm missing anything since the lack of atmosphere and excitement like I'm used to, so waiting a week for VODs and replays is so much better than spending $20. I used to hate the fact that this even existed and hoped that it would fail, but honestly I don't even care anymore as long as other people don't start doing it also. That way, sick replay pack every now and then.
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I wish there were more casters out there who know how to tell a story and build up a match rather than spouting out "Best player in the World" DC. Aye, aye.
They have their moments, but we really need the full story.
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On February 27 2012 10:29 Jaegeru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:11 Zeon0 wrote:On February 27 2012 10:10 scarper65 wrote:On February 27 2012 10:09 Zeon0 wrote:
i hate MKP for his cheesy play right now. I dont mind if a Player cheeses once or twice in a Bo7, but 5 times in 6 games is just too much for me, i cant enjoy sc2 with that kind of play How did he cheese at all? yeah, 2rax bunker rushing is solid macro play! 12 / 14 is a pretty standard form of aggression and in no way cheese at all.
metal was 12/12 SCV pull ... or 11/12
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On February 27 2012 10:30 MONXY FIST wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:26 tdt wrote:On February 27 2012 10:18 dynabetes wrote:
stop complaining about the lack of prize ceremony, they're all usually incredibly awkward and lame anyway. The games and production value of this tournament were, without a doubt, worth $20. If you compare this content to other entertainment I think you would find that it makes sense. Go to the movies and you're immediately out $10 plus popcorn and drinks, and the gas to get you there. This was 3 days worth of hours upon hours of gameplay, casting, and interaction, that definitely warranted a PPV model.
Get used to it nerds. Save your benjamins.
PS - GO DEMUSLIM and glad minigun took a game off Huk but he could have taken him out, Huk didn't perform well. You can't compare apples to televisions. You can compare it to other pay SC2 events and free SC2 events though. MLG was a horrendous value. Assembly was better all around - crowd, production, non- issues, games, announcers. Free. Only thing MLG had was better player set. GSL is cheaper and is better in every way. MLG is a terrible relative value. I don't care what dishwashers or UFC cost I buy things on relative value. Meaning I'd give everything I owned for a glass pof water in the Sahara. But I won't give a dime for a half asssed production in a sea of better FREE tournaments and cheaper superior tournaments. You guys realize that there is a thread to specifically talk about MLG PPV model.
Yeah, wondering where the bans are. The header for the thread specifically to not come here to bitch about PPV
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On February 27 2012 10:30 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:21 Astro-Penguin wrote:On February 27 2012 10:19 XRaDiiX wrote:
MKP is the best SC2 player in the world he was supposed to win Code S this season but the Genius and the Protoss Deathball happened with Colossus plus storm massive so strong 2 base Protoss X_X.
So MKP is the true Dong he will win Code S next season noone can beat him in TvZ and TvT you watch he will destroy everyone. What? Sorry but what games are you watching, Genius totally outclassed MarineKing in their final games.... such ignorant statements. He will win next season of Code S trust me he only lost to a gimicky 2 base Deathball. He won't make the same mistake again MKP will show to all those who deny his true power that he is the true master.
He was not outclassed, there was a 2 base collosus all in and the big protoss deathball in game 3.
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So now that we know the seeds for MLG Columbus, is it possible to determine who is in what pool?
Also if 16 players have been seeded and 4 come from the open bracket does that mean MLG has reduced the size of the pool from 24 to 20?
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On February 27 2012 10:19 RJGooner wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:17 vndods wrote:On February 27 2012 10:16 Spiner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:12 MrShankly wrote:
So glad for MKP, lots of people would argue he is not the better player, which makes it even more amazing that he managed to pull out the win! MKP will become the best player in the world once he finally defeats his nerve issues at live events. Hes probably the best online player, having 70%+ win ratio and #1 on korean ladder for all the seasons so far. 80% last season i believe with number 1 rank by miles in points. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. MKP is awesome but I wouldn't put him on the level on an MMA or an Alive quite yet.
LOL Alive???? really? MKP out played his ass at the first group stages.
Talking about no getting ahead of ourselves, one OK tournament from Alive and he is a top player?
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On February 27 2012 10:28 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:21 yoshi245 wrote:On February 27 2012 10:18 Derity wrote:
despite the big players, this kind of event should not be repeated, especially not as a ppv event.
MKP wins a stacked event, no hype, no applause, a boring interview, not even a prize ceremony.
why bring players there. could as well be played online. This. If anything, a huge event like MLG Providence is more worthy of adopting a PPV model, I'm too frugal to buy it unless it was $10. But $20 for this event didn't seem all that great (and I managed fine just reading Play-by-Play's). So don't do a homestory cup again either? Big players, no applause etc.
Homestory Cup has an audience in the pub below Takes apartment ...
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first off,congrats to MKP, but what a disappointing final, Assembly was way better
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On February 27 2012 10:32 vndods wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:30 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 27 2012 10:21 Astro-Penguin wrote:On February 27 2012 10:19 XRaDiiX wrote:
MKP is the best SC2 player in the world he was supposed to win Code S this season but the Genius and the Protoss Deathball happened with Colossus plus storm massive so strong 2 base Protoss X_X.
So MKP is the true Dong he will win Code S next season noone can beat him in TvZ and TvT you watch he will destroy everyone. What? Sorry but what games are you watching, Genius totally outclassed MarineKing in their final games.... such ignorant statements. He will win next season of Code S trust me he only lost to a gimicky 2 base Deathball. He won't make the same mistake again MKP will show to all those who deny his true power that he is the true master. He was not outclassed, there was a 2 base collosus all in and the big protoss deathball in game 3.
I think you got trolled friend. I don't see why people bother replying to people who are obviously spouting bullshit.
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On February 27 2012 10:30 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:21 Astro-Penguin wrote:On February 27 2012 10:19 XRaDiiX wrote:
MKP is the best SC2 player in the world he was supposed to win Code S this season but the Genius and the Protoss Deathball happened with Colossus plus storm massive so strong 2 base Protoss X_X.
So MKP is the true Dong he will win Code S next season noone can beat him in TvZ and TvT you watch he will destroy everyone. What? Sorry but what games are you watching, Genius totally outclassed MarineKing in their final games.... such ignorant statements. He will win next season of Code S trust me he only lost to a gimicky 2 base Deathball. He won't make the same mistake again MKP will show to all those who deny his true power that he is the true master.
And Choya will win the next Code S after that... Trust me !
MKP just outsmarted DRG, that's it. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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That last game Marineking just went for a roll of the dice, and prayed DRG wouldn't scout, and it payed off. If DRG had scouted the third, he could have won easily with a roach push, so it is his fault. It was still sad to see though.
EDIT: In retrospect, I disagree with what I wrote. I was just angry.
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On February 27 2012 10:28 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:21 yoshi245 wrote:On February 27 2012 10:18 Derity wrote:
despite the big players, this kind of event should not be repeated, especially not as a ppv event.
MKP wins a stacked event, no hype, no applause, a boring interview, not even a prize ceremony.
why bring players there. could as well be played online. This. If anything, a huge event like MLG Providence is more worthy of adopting a PPV model, I'm too frugal to buy it unless it was $10. But $20 for this event didn't seem all that great (and I managed fine just reading Play-by-Play's). So don't do a homestory cup again either? Big players, no applause etc.
I paid for HSC3 and that was worth every penny(I didn't for 4, but I was contemplating it). The environment on HSC was more entertaining and let the community see the players in a very casual nature. Here's the difference. HSC had free streams at a lower quality. MLG Arena basically forced people to cough up $ to watch, and not at what I or others would consider a reasonable price point, $10 is fine, anything higher Iike $15 or $20 don't justify worth paying. Come back when you have a proper example to counteract, or don't bother. Oh and at least in HSC, there's a bar 1 level below and they have shown bar patrons root and cheer for various players. You don't get that in this MLG.
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On February 27 2012 10:30 MONXY FIST wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:26 tdt wrote:On February 27 2012 10:18 dynabetes wrote:
stop complaining about the lack of prize ceremony, they're all usually incredibly awkward and lame anyway. The games and production value of this tournament were, without a doubt, worth $20. If you compare this content to other entertainment I think you would find that it makes sense. Go to the movies and you're immediately out $10 plus popcorn and drinks, and the gas to get you there. This was 3 days worth of hours upon hours of gameplay, casting, and interaction, that definitely warranted a PPV model.
Get used to it nerds. Save your benjamins.
PS - GO DEMUSLIM and glad minigun took a game off Huk but he could have taken him out, Huk didn't perform well. You can't compare apples to televisions. You can compare it to other pay SC2 events and free SC2 events though. MLG was a horrendous value. Assembly was better all around - crowd, production, non- issues, games, announcers. Free. Only thing MLG had was better player set. GSL is cheaper and is better in every way. MLG is a terrible relative value. I don't care what dishwashers or UFC cost I buy things on relative value. Meaning I'd give everything I owned for a glass pof water in the Sahara. But I won't give a dime for a half asssed production in a sea of better FREE tournaments and cheaper superior tournaments. You guys realize that there is a thread to specifically talk about MLG PPV model.
When the tournament finishes the binfest begins.
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On February 27 2012 10:26 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:18 dynabetes wrote:
stop complaining about the lack of prize ceremony, they're all usually incredibly awkward and lame anyway. The games and production value of this tournament were, without a doubt, worth $20. If you compare this content to other entertainment I think you would find that it makes sense. Go to the movies and you're immediately out $10 plus popcorn and drinks, and the gas to get you there. This was 3 days worth of hours upon hours of gameplay, casting, and interaction, that definitely warranted a PPV model.
Get used to it nerds. Save your benjamins.
PS - GO DEMUSLIM and glad minigun took a game off Huk but he could have taken him out, Huk didn't perform well. You can't compare apples to televisions. You can compare it to other pay SC2 events and free SC2 events though. MLG was a horrendous value. Assembly was better all around - crowd, production, non- issues, games, announcers. Free. Only thing MLG had was better player set. GSL is cheaper and is better in every way. MLG is a terrible relative value. I don't care what dishwashers or UFC cost I buy things on relative value. Meaning I'd give everything I owned for a glass pof water in the Sahara. But I won't give a dime for a half asssed production in a sea of better FREE tournaments and cheaper superior tournaments. BTW - no saving needed- nerds are smart enough to figure how not to pay anyway for bits and bites;)
Yeah, they're smart enough to figure out how to circumvent paying for a PPV event, and hypocritical enough to express moral outrage when MLG uses a photo from liquipedia without getting permission from the person who took it.
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Did everyone forget that bans are thrown out for whining about PPV in here?
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On February 27 2012 10:32 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:28 mrtomjones wrote:On February 27 2012 10:21 yoshi245 wrote:On February 27 2012 10:18 Derity wrote:
despite the big players, this kind of event should not be repeated, especially not as a ppv event.
MKP wins a stacked event, no hype, no applause, a boring interview, not even a prize ceremony.
why bring players there. could as well be played online. This. If anything, a huge event like MLG Providence is more worthy of adopting a PPV model, I'm too frugal to buy it unless it was $10. But $20 for this event didn't seem all that great (and I managed fine just reading Play-by-Play's). So don't do a homestory cup again either? Big players, no applause etc. Homestory Cup has an audience in the pub below Takes apartment ...
+ a bunch of drunken pros cheering for the winner 
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On February 27 2012 10:27 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:21 yoshi245 wrote:On February 27 2012 10:18 Derity wrote:
despite the big players, this kind of event should not be repeated, especially not as a ppv event.
MKP wins a stacked event, no hype, no applause, a boring interview, not even a prize ceremony.
why bring players there. could as well be played online. If anything, a huge event like MLG Providence is more worthy of adopting a PPV model, I'm too frugal to buy it unless it was $10. But $20 for this event didn't seem all that great (and I managed fine just reading Play-by-Play's). yes, like I said many times over. Show me why you are bringing them down in the first place. Did they? Honest answer, no. Although, the quality of the games was very, very good. I hope they got a lot of promotional materials out of them for the upcoming events but we really didn't see anything noteworthy of why they were there. Lan/latency would be great. Yet we still have players d/cing and MLG tried to accomodate and give them the best conditions to play. We could have seen the talent used a little more better. Grubby and Sheth casting was a nice addition.
Dont even compare the disconnect we saw to cross server play. Cross server play should never be used honestly. It puts everything into a big crap shoot. Also certain players would be playing at horrible times. Tgose two reasons alone make it worth it to fly the players in
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On February 27 2012 10:11 Zeon0 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:10 scarper65 wrote:On February 27 2012 10:09 Zeon0 wrote:
i hate MKP for his cheesy play right now. I dont mind if a Player cheeses once or twice in a Bo7, but 5 times in 6 games is just too much for me, i cant enjoy sc2 with that kind of play How did he cheese at all? yeah, 2rax bunker rushing is solid macro play!
Zergs 6pooled into macro play all weekend against Protoss. The 2rax with bunkers is a much, much tamer version of that. God these threads are depressing. Everybody just wants to get some bitching out in the form of pretending to comment on a tournament.
I thought it was awesome, congrats to MKP, DRG, and everyone else who performed.
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On February 27 2012 10:32 vndods wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:30 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 27 2012 10:21 Astro-Penguin wrote:On February 27 2012 10:19 XRaDiiX wrote:
MKP is the best SC2 player in the world he was supposed to win Code S this season but the Genius and the Protoss Deathball happened with Colossus plus storm massive so strong 2 base Protoss X_X.
So MKP is the true Dong he will win Code S next season noone can beat him in TvZ and TvT you watch he will destroy everyone. What? Sorry but what games are you watching, Genius totally outclassed MarineKing in their final games.... such ignorant statements. He will win next season of Code S trust me he only lost to a gimicky 2 base Deathball. He won't make the same mistake again MKP will show to all those who deny his true power that he is the true master. He was not outclassed, there was a 2 base collosus all in and the big protoss deathball in game 3.
I know he wasn't outclassed he actually outplayed and should of won he just lost to mass Protoss Death ball T_T
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