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On February 27 2012 10:33 Funguuuuu wrote:
That last game Marineking just went for a roll of the dice, and prayed DRG wouldn't scout, and it payed off. If DRG had scouted the third, he could have won easily with a roach push, so it is his fault. It was still sad to see though.
Like Tasteless mentioned, MKP had Sieged-up Tanks on the high ground to defend against Roach pushes.
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On February 27 2012 10:28 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:21 yoshi245 wrote:On February 27 2012 10:18 Derity wrote:
despite the big players, this kind of event should not be repeated, especially not as a ppv event.
MKP wins a stacked event, no hype, no applause, a boring interview, not even a prize ceremony.
why bring players there. could as well be played online. This. If anything, a huge event like MLG Providence is more worthy of adopting a PPV model, I'm too frugal to buy it unless it was $10. But $20 for this event didn't seem all that great (and I managed fine just reading Play-by-Play's). So don't do a homestory cup again either? Big players, no applause etc.
This makes no sense. Homestory Cup was not a PPV event. It was free? You're comparing apples to submarines here.
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I now deem DongRaeGu, MarineKingPrime.
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On February 27 2012 10:09 werynais wrote:
One of the biggest tournaments of 2012? You sure JP? Its only 10K after all!
10k but the tournament had the best players in the world with very few exceptions.
It was as stacked as the gsl in terms of the level of competition
10k is still a huge sum for a sc2 tournamnt. Very few tournaments exceed that amount
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On February 27 2012 10:33 Pr0wler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:30 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 27 2012 10:21 Astro-Penguin wrote:On February 27 2012 10:19 XRaDiiX wrote:
MKP is the best SC2 player in the world he was supposed to win Code S this season but the Genius and the Protoss Deathball happened with Colossus plus storm massive so strong 2 base Protoss X_X.
So MKP is the true Dong he will win Code S next season noone can beat him in TvZ and TvT you watch he will destroy everyone. What? Sorry but what games are you watching, Genius totally outclassed MarineKing in their final games.... such ignorant statements. He will win next season of Code S trust me he only lost to a gimicky 2 base Deathball. He won't make the same mistake again MKP will show to all those who deny his true power that he is the true master. And Choya will win the next Code S after that... Trust me ! MKP just outsmarted DRG, that's it. I wouldn't read too much into it.
Lol he is the best player in the world you seem mad he was superior he is the best Korean on ladder with the highest win percentage always. 80% Korean Ladder is amazing. Also he has nerve issues at live events when he overcomes that he will smash everyone into the ground.
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On February 27 2012 10:14 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:05 red4ce wrote:
In the early game spending 500 gas i no problem for terran, its just a few units and a few upgrades. Its not 500 "random" gas collected because its funny. Not if you haven't got any minerals... He was essentially at 0 minerals while floating 500 gas. I do like his greedy strategy but it was certainly not optimized.
MKP had everything set up really well. He had a reactor starport, factory with tech lab and double engineering bay. He wanted to get 2 medivacs, 2 upgrades, siege tank and siege mode. Thats 625 gas and 650 minerals.
OK, he has no minerals, but he's on triple orbital with 40+ scvs. How long does it take to mine 650 minerals? My guess is about 20-25 seconds. How long does it take to mine 625 gas? About a week?
This little gas pile was a clutch component to his victory and allowed him to get a powerful, midgame army that is as-good-as-terran gets really.
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On February 27 2012 10:32 adiga wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:19 RJGooner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:17 vndods wrote:On February 27 2012 10:16 Spiner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:12 MrShankly wrote:
So glad for MKP, lots of people would argue he is not the better player, which makes it even more amazing that he managed to pull out the win! MKP will become the best player in the world once he finally defeats his nerve issues at live events. Hes probably the best online player, having 70%+ win ratio and #1 on korean ladder for all the seasons so far. 80% last season i believe with number 1 rank by miles in points. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. MKP is awesome but I wouldn't put him on the level on an MMA or an Alive quite yet. LOL Alive???? really? MKP out played his ass at the first group stages. Talking about no getting ahead of ourselves, one OK tournament from Alive and he is a top player?
Marineking is definitely at least on aLive's level if not higher. 2-0 head to head in code s. Common opponent: Genius
aLive vs Genius: 0-3
Marineking vs. Genius: 3-2
Marineking's TvT has skyrocketed in the last month. His tvp is probably close to #1... he went positive against genius who crushed everyone, 2-0d parting in this tournament
MMA has the ability to beat Mvp though and still probably better TvZ although beating DRG here is very impressive with the way DRG has been playing.
TvP: MKP > aLive, MKP > MMA
TvT: MKP > or = aLive, MKP < MMA
TvZ MKP > or = aLive, MKP < MMA but the gap isnt too big
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On February 27 2012 10:20 CeriseCherries wrote:
1. Lol mlg curse still very very stronk
2. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.. kong is 1st?... hmmm wait MLG arena = not a major event so ok?
Perhaps as far as prize pool goes. But the competition there was as strong as it comes and although there were several surpirse upsets throughtout the tournament (MVP, Nestea especially) DRG is as hard an opponent as there is, so it was a vety strong finish nonetheless, especially considering the number of high tier players Marineking faced on his path to the finals.
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On February 27 2012 10:37 Xercen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:09 werynais wrote:
One of the biggest tournaments of 2012? You sure JP? Its only 10K after all! only 10k but the tournament had the best players in the world with very few exceptions. It was as stacked as the gsl in terms of the level of competition
No it wasn't.
Take a look at both pools. You can't seriously tell me that this bracket compares to Code S.
It was stacked no doubt, probably the most stacked we've seen at a foreign event, but not as high class across the field as Code S.
Not saying that's a bad thing or anything, but its true.
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On February 27 2012 10:19 RJGooner wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:17 vndods wrote:On February 27 2012 10:16 Spiner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:12 MrShankly wrote:
So glad for MKP, lots of people would argue he is not the better player, which makes it even more amazing that he managed to pull out the win! MKP will become the best player in the world once he finally defeats his nerve issues at live events. Hes probably the best online player, having 70%+ win ratio and #1 on korean ladder for all the seasons so far. 80% last season i believe with number 1 rank by miles in points. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. MKP is awesome but I wouldn't put him on the level on an MMA or an Alive quite yet.
Rofl what. MKP has accomplished 10x more than Alive. I think what you meant to say was an MMA or an MVP.
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On February 27 2012 10:39 MattBarry wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:19 RJGooner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:17 vndods wrote:On February 27 2012 10:16 Spiner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:12 MrShankly wrote:
So glad for MKP, lots of people would argue he is not the better player, which makes it even more amazing that he managed to pull out the win! MKP will become the best player in the world once he finally defeats his nerve issues at live events. Hes probably the best online player, having 70%+ win ratio and #1 on korean ladder for all the seasons so far. 80% last season i believe with number 1 rank by miles in points. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. MKP is awesome but I wouldn't put him on the level on an MMA or an Alive quite yet. Rofl what. MKP has accomplished 10x more than Alive. I think what you meant to say was an MMA or an MVP.
He's clearly talking about current level, not career accomplishments...
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Great event I really enjoyed it. So happy to see MKP finally win something and solidify that he belongs in the top tier and not just as an afterthought. Was really disappointed that tastosis didn't build up any enthusiasm to his win. It was a huge deal and it was kind of lame how underplayed it was. Games were fantastic all weekend, the first time i really enjoyed watching PvZ ( Ret vs Huk game 1 omgomg or DRG vs Parting on Taldarim), and really thought that everyone was playing their A game ( with the exception of MVP and Nestea what the hell happened with them?)
The one point artosis made really struck me today though: is MKP not even reaching his potential due to lack of top tier practice? I tend to not think so but it was an interesting point..
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On February 27 2012 10:37 Xercen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:09 werynais wrote:
One of the biggest tournaments of 2012? You sure JP? Its only 10K after all! 10k but the tournament had the best players in the world with very few exceptions. It was as stacked as the gsl in terms of the level of competition 10k is still a huge sum for a sc2 tournamnt. Very few tournaments exceed that amount
Yes, the prize pool certainly wasn't the highest we've seen but the calibre of the players presnt should by no means be underestimated. Must have been the highest out there in SC2 atm besides GSL and perhaps MLG Provdience.
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Congrats MKP, please make this the first of many
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On February 27 2012 10:38 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:33 Pr0wler wrote:On February 27 2012 10:30 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 27 2012 10:21 Astro-Penguin wrote:On February 27 2012 10:19 XRaDiiX wrote:
MKP is the best SC2 player in the world he was supposed to win Code S this season but the Genius and the Protoss Deathball happened with Colossus plus storm massive so strong 2 base Protoss X_X.
So MKP is the true Dong he will win Code S next season noone can beat him in TvZ and TvT you watch he will destroy everyone. What? Sorry but what games are you watching, Genius totally outclassed MarineKing in their final games.... such ignorant statements. He will win next season of Code S trust me he only lost to a gimicky 2 base Deathball. He won't make the same mistake again MKP will show to all those who deny his true power that he is the true master. And Choya will win the next Code S after that... Trust me ! MKP just outsmarted DRG, that's it. I wouldn't read too much into it. Lol he is the best player in the world you seem mad he was superior he is the best Korean on ladder with the highest win percentage always. 80% Korean Ladder is amazing. Also he has nerve issues at live events when he overcomes that he will smash everyone into the ground.
Could apply that bias and argument to any player.
I mean, if you hadn't have quoted someone talking about MKP when you said "he" I could have inferred you were talking about aLive.
Protoss deathball been happening for months now and MKP has had a good record against Protoss the entire time, so I don't quite get your argument anyway unless every loss is someone elses fault other than MKPs? You can keep blaming stuff like nerves, Protoss, MVPtheultimateMKProadblock, etc but GSL champions overcome all of that and then some.
Not being all anti-MKP here (because honestly MKP definitely has the talent and skill to be at the top), but the bias is a little too biased for my bias =P
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On February 27 2012 10:41 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:39 MattBarry wrote:On February 27 2012 10:19 RJGooner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:17 vndods wrote:On February 27 2012 10:16 Spiner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:12 MrShankly wrote:
So glad for MKP, lots of people would argue he is not the better player, which makes it even more amazing that he managed to pull out the win! MKP will become the best player in the world once he finally defeats his nerve issues at live events. Hes probably the best online player, having 70%+ win ratio and #1 on korean ladder for all the seasons so far. 80% last season i believe with number 1 rank by miles in points. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. MKP is awesome but I wouldn't put him on the level on an MMA or an Alive quite yet. Rofl what. MKP has accomplished 10x more than Alive. I think what you meant to say was an MMA or an MVP. He's clearly talking about current level, not career accomplishments...
Current level doesn't support that sort of overestimation of Alive's talent either.
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MKP XD can't say i am not happy
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On February 27 2012 10:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 10:32 adiga wrote:On February 27 2012 10:19 RJGooner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:17 vndods wrote:On February 27 2012 10:16 Spiner wrote:On February 27 2012 10:12 MrShankly wrote:
So glad for MKP, lots of people would argue he is not the better player, which makes it even more amazing that he managed to pull out the win! MKP will become the best player in the world once he finally defeats his nerve issues at live events. Hes probably the best online player, having 70%+ win ratio and #1 on korean ladder for all the seasons so far. 80% last season i believe with number 1 rank by miles in points. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. MKP is awesome but I wouldn't put him on the level on an MMA or an Alive quite yet. LOL Alive???? really? MKP out played his ass at the first group stages. Talking about no getting ahead of ourselves, one OK tournament from Alive and he is a top player? Marineking is definitely at least on aLive's level if not higher. 2-0 head to head in code s. Common opponent: Genius aLive vs Genius: 0-3 Marineking vs. Genius: 3-2 Marineking's TvT has skyrocketed in the last month. His tvp is probably close to #1... he went positive against genius who crushed everyone, 2-0d parting in this tournament MMA has the ability to beat Mvp though and still probably better TvZ although beating DRG here is very impressive with the way DRG has been playing. TvP: MKP > aLive, MKP > MMA TvT: MKP > or = aLive, MKP < MMA TvZ MKP > or = aLive, MKP < MMA but the gap isnt too big
Did you watch the first group stage this GSL season? MKP just demolished aLive there, maybe it was a fluke or something but since that game aLive didn't even lose a single TvT, so I don't know, I don't want to talk about if and that and ifs but just saying MKP crushed aLive 2-0.
MKP TvT and TvP skyrocketed so high that all of the sudden it looks like his TvZ is his weakest match up which he proved that he can beat DRG at his top form really.
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On February 27 2012 10:37 gimble365 wrote:
I now deem DongRaeGu, MarineKingPrime.
Both of your posts are this.
What are you talking about?
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