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On February 21 2012 19:46 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:45 AmericanUmlaut wrote:On February 21 2012 19:44 dainbramage wrote:On February 21 2012 19:39 Seeker wrote:On February 21 2012 19:38 TheRidd wrote:On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:
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Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them? I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup. Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast. Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads. I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed! I'm pretty sure you're qq'ing. HALLELUJAH!!! Somone who used you're instead of your. <3 You're hatred of confused homophones is easily exploitable. Their knot that easy two confuse. Okay now that's just being cruel!!!
Eye apologize.
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
I miss John and Mr. Chae casting. I miss it a lot.
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United States97276 Posts
really similar builds coming out for Leenock and July
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On February 21 2012 19:41 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:39 L3g3nd_ wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 shockaslim wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 L3g3nd_ wrote:On February 21 2012 19:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... They are ridiculous when you lose 10 ghosts with no emps or snipes going off yeah, if you land all your storms you obv win, but its pretty easy to avoid them cos of EMP/snipe and also cos of how slow HT are. You shuoldnt be getting hit by storms at all in TvP, or youre doing something wrong Huh what? We have been seeing HT much earlier in TvP lately, when you really can't afford ghosts, and this is the time where they are REALLY strong, All you can do as Terran is try to mitigate the damage enough so that you can try to kill the army after all of the storms have been used up after already spreading your army out, and even that is really a pipe dream. why exactly cant you get ghost out that early? they are cheaper than HT.... it's not about cost, it's about build and transition and scouting
well its the same for fast col, TvP you NEED to figure out what they are doing asap, and either make mass bio, ghosts or viking. If you dont scout then you get punished for it. Nothing wrong with that
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Really hoping Terious makes it out of this.
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On February 21 2012 19:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
really similar builds coming out for Leenock and July thats cos they're the same.
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I'm not usually a fan of khaldor but solo casting seems to suit him quite a bit.
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OOOH those 2 banes could be huge
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United States97276 Posts
Nice baneling hit Leenock!
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July spawns Z9
Leenock spawns Z3
Both players Hatch first
"Real Men Drill Deep"
2 Queens, Ling Speed and some Lings for both players
The mirror continues as both plant their Baneling Nests
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oh wow those poor drones 
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avenge -bee... How's it going?
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I don't think anything needs nerfing but something needs changing. It's really not so much that 'storm is strong' or any one thing which makes the matchup what it is, it's that both sides kind of have to do the same thing. All the P v Ts lately seem to be the same.
Reminds me of Z v P from a while back when it was always Roach/Hydra/Corrupter vs. deathball, and that sucked ass as well.
Kind of funny that all it took was the slight reduction in EMP size for us to end up here. That seems to be all that's changed.
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On February 21 2012 19:46 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:40 bittman wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 shockaslim wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 L3g3nd_ wrote:On February 21 2012 19:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... They are ridiculous when you lose 10 ghosts with no emps or snipes going off yeah, if you land all your storms you obv win, but its pretty easy to avoid them cos of EMP/snipe and also cos of how slow HT are. You shuoldnt be getting hit by storms at all in TvP, or youre doing something wrong Huh what? We have been seeing HT much earlier in TvP lately, when you really can't afford ghosts, and this is the time where they are REALLY strong, All you can do as Terran is try to mitigate the damage enough so that you can try to kill the army after all of the storms have been used up after already spreading your army out, and even that is really a pipe dream. If you can't afford ghosts how can Protoss afford HT? Anyway, now that HT are so popular can we see more tanks please? Oh wait, people think mech sucks because bio is much easier and generally better. But Protoss struggled so much the moment terran did something not bio for a change (1/1/1) because of how predictable MMM became. Anyway that's just my thoughts, I know people always then counter this with the true tried methods of terran but if the top skill ceiling of terran MMM(VG) has been reached then perhaps a new strategy needs to be explored. Whether players do it on their own or Blizzard buff something it does have to happen. People think mech suks because IT REALLY suks. 90% of protoss unit are meant to counter tank in this game.
Mech type builds are strong if unscouted (or if protoss has never played vs mech) because you have to play completely differently against them than you do with bio, but yeah if you see it coming they kinda suck. I think it would be good for terrans if they mixed in some more 2base allins that focus on some mech units (thors or tanks), while always trying to deny scouting because that would make things a bit harder on protoss and force us to review our midgame builds.
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On February 21 2012 19:49 Grovbolle wrote:
avenge -bee... How's it going?
FE vs late hatch
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At this point July needs to go and practice only ZvZ against/with banelings for one month straight.
It's his worst bane in SC2.
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EPT
