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Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
February 04 2012 06:30 GMT
#581
anyone's gom player crash?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
February 04 2012 06:31 GMT
#582
On February 04 2012 15:30 Sc2Null wrote:
anyone's gom player crash?


Not me. Oregon, USA.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
February 04 2012 06:31 GMT
#583
Symbol is probably the most underrated player. He's very good. Hope he can take down a couple of IM
<3 DongRaeGu <3
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
February 04 2012 06:31 GMT
#584
On February 04 2012 15:29 Hoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:25 Whitewing wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:24 Delwack wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:21 Mohdoo wrote:
Technically, the upgrade was economical. Every 2 bunkers built saved 100 minerals. He built roughly 6 bunkers, so that means he saved 300 minerals and increased the DPS/area. I dunno how much that upgrade is, but not counting the upgrade cost, that was at least 300 minerals saved while also increasing DPS/area. Very interest, indeed.


Neosteel frame costs 100/100, same as wep 1 or armor 1.

Wep 1 increases DPS/area too. I didn't catch if he wep 1 or not that game, I wasn't paying full attention to ths tream. If he did get wep 1 + neosteel, that's the cheapest possible DPS/area he could get, and it may MAY have been useful against immortal/sentry FFs, since he technically has more FF power, and with taking down the immortal shields, tanks could focus fire them down. I believe he was ahead at that point though, so this strategy may only be effective as a strong closer that prevents any chance of comeback rather than something that can be done in an even game where you need to gain an advantage.


+1 doesn't protect as many marines from colossi as neosteel frames does, which looks to be the only unit that could give that push a lot of trouble.

neosteel wouldn't help at all against colossi.
But even then, he would never be able to pump out enough colossi to crush that contain.

+1 is a much better choice. Yoda was just trying to be cute with that upgrade.


Maybe it was a timing issue? Neosteel frame research is much shorter than +1 weapons (full 50 seconds shorter).
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
February 04 2012 06:32 GMT
#585
This map is very good for Z in ZVT, nice decision by TSL, although not sure why they did not pick Hyun.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 04 2012 06:32 GMT
#586
Eager to see Symbol play, I don't remember any game from him.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
February 04 2012 06:32 GMT
#587
LOLOL raising the depot xD
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
February 04 2012 06:32 GMT
#588
On February 04 2012 15:30 Sc2Null wrote:
anyone's gom player crash?

Yup. Had to restart stream. Just do that
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 04 2012 06:32 GMT
#589
On February 04 2012 15:30 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:29 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:28 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:21 zhurai wrote:
Game 4

ZvT
Symbol vs Yoda

Map: Daybreak

Symbol at the top spawn
Yoda at the bottom spawn

hatch first for symbol
standard rax -> gas for yoda

reactor hellion opening by yoda
ling speed by symbol
expo started by yoda
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 04 2012 06:33 GMT
#590
On February 04 2012 15:32 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:29 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:28 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:21 zhurai wrote:
Game 4

ZvT
Symbol vs Yoda

Map: Daybreak

Symbol at the top spawn
Yoda at the bottom spawn

hatch first for symbol
standard rax -> gas for yoda

reactor hellion opening by yoda
ling speed by symbol
expo started by yoda

roach warren by symbol
quick 3rd command center by yoda
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 04 2012 06:33 GMT
#591
On February 04 2012 15:32 Raambo11 wrote:
This map is very good for Z in ZVT, nice decision by TSL, although not sure why they did not pick Hyun.


Because Hyun is not that good yet.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 04 2012 06:34 GMT
#592
On February 04 2012 15:33 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:32 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:29 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:28 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:21 zhurai wrote:
Game 4

ZvT
Symbol vs Yoda

Map: Daybreak

Symbol at the top spawn
Yoda at the bottom spawn

hatch first for symbol
standard rax -> gas for yoda

reactor hellion opening by yoda
ling speed by symbol
expo started by yoda

roach warren by symbol
quick 3rd command center by yoda

7 roaches being built by symbol
stim starting by yoda
marauders starting asap + bunker by yoda when he saw roaches coming
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
February 04 2012 06:34 GMT
#593
On February 04 2012 15:31 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:29 Hoon wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:25 Whitewing wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:24 Delwack wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:21 Mohdoo wrote:
Technically, the upgrade was economical. Every 2 bunkers built saved 100 minerals. He built roughly 6 bunkers, so that means he saved 300 minerals and increased the DPS/area. I dunno how much that upgrade is, but not counting the upgrade cost, that was at least 300 minerals saved while also increasing DPS/area. Very interest, indeed.


Neosteel frame costs 100/100, same as wep 1 or armor 1.

Wep 1 increases DPS/area too. I didn't catch if he wep 1 or not that game, I wasn't paying full attention to ths tream. If he did get wep 1 + neosteel, that's the cheapest possible DPS/area he could get, and it may MAY have been useful against immortal/sentry FFs, since he technically has more FF power, and with taking down the immortal shields, tanks could focus fire them down. I believe he was ahead at that point though, so this strategy may only be effective as a strong closer that prevents any chance of comeback rather than something that can be done in an even game where you need to gain an advantage.


+1 doesn't protect as many marines from colossi as neosteel frames does, which looks to be the only unit that could give that push a lot of trouble.

neosteel wouldn't help at all against colossi.
But even then, he would never be able to pump out enough colossi to crush that contain.

+1 is a much better choice. Yoda was just trying to be cute with that upgrade.


Maybe it was a timing issue? Neosteel frame research is much shorter than +1 weapons (full 50 seconds shorter).

Yeah, actually it could be because of the timing, which makes it look much more well crafted.

Anyway, I expect stupid people on the ladder trying to copy his bunker rush. :D
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Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
February 04 2012 06:34 GMT
#594
On February 04 2012 15:33 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:32 Raambo11 wrote:
This map is very good for Z in ZVT, nice decision by TSL, although not sure why they did not pick Hyun.


Because Hyun is not that good yet.


Hes Code A right? Symbol is code B atm. Also lookin bad for Yoda hes gettin BO countered.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 04 2012 06:35 GMT
#595
On February 04 2012 15:32 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:30 Sc2Null wrote:
anyone's gom player crash?

Yup. Had to restart stream. Just do that

why you no put my lr onto the op T.T

jk

whatever - -
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
February 04 2012 06:35 GMT
#596
On February 04 2012 15:35 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:32 Seeker wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:30 Sc2Null wrote:
anyone's gom player crash?

Yup. Had to restart stream. Just do that

why you no put my lr onto the op T.T

jk

whatever - -

Just PM them to me and I'll put 'em in
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 04 2012 06:35 GMT
#597
On February 04 2012 15:34 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:33 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:32 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:29 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:28 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:21 zhurai wrote:
Game 4

ZvT
Symbol vs Yoda

Map: Daybreak

Symbol at the top spawn
Yoda at the bottom spawn

hatch first for symbol
standard rax -> gas for yoda

reactor hellion opening by yoda
ling speed by symbol
expo started by yoda

roach warren by symbol
quick 3rd command center by yoda

7 roaches being built by symbol
stim starting by yoda
marauders starting asap + bunker by yoda when he saw roaches coming

macro hatch by symbol
bunker doesn't complete
seige mode starting by yoda
3rd started by symbol
2 evos by symbol too
yoda retaking his natural
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 04 2012 06:36 GMT
#598
On February 04 2012 15:34 Raambo11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:33 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:32 Raambo11 wrote:
This map is very good for Z in ZVT, nice decision by TSL, although not sure why they did not pick Hyun.


Because Hyun is not that good yet.


Hes Code A right? Symbol is code B atm. Also lookin bad for Yoda hes gettin BO countered.


Symbol has better overall play.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 04 2012 06:36 GMT
#599
On February 04 2012 15:35 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:34 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:33 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:32 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:29 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:28 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:21 zhurai wrote:
Game 4

ZvT
Symbol vs Yoda

Map: Daybreak

Symbol at the top spawn
Yoda at the bottom spawn

hatch first for symbol
standard rax -> gas for yoda

reactor hellion opening by yoda
ling speed by symbol
expo started by yoda

roach warren by symbol
quick 3rd command center by yoda

7 roaches being built by symbol
stim starting by yoda
marauders starting asap + bunker by yoda when he saw roaches coming

macro hatch by symbol
bunker doesn't complete
seige mode starting by yoda
3rd started by symbol
2 evos by symbol too
yoda retaking his natural

starport by yoda
lair incoming by symbol
+1/+1 by symbol
just +1 bio attack by yoda
yoda taking 3rd
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 04 2012 06:37 GMT
#600
On February 04 2012 15:36 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:35 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:34 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:33 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:32 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:29 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:28 zhurai wrote:
On February 04 2012 15:21 zhurai wrote:
Game 4

ZvT
Symbol vs Yoda

Map: Daybreak

Symbol at the top spawn
Yoda at the bottom spawn

hatch first for symbol
standard rax -> gas for yoda

reactor hellion opening by yoda
ling speed by symbol
expo started by yoda

roach warren by symbol
quick 3rd command center by yoda

7 roaches being built by symbol
stim starting by yoda
marauders starting asap + bunker by yoda when he saw roaches coming

macro hatch by symbol
bunker doesn't complete
seige mode starting by yoda
3rd started by symbol
2 evos by symbol too
yoda retaking his natural

starport by yoda
lair incoming by symbol
+1/+1 by symbol
just +1 bio attack by yoda
yoda taking 3rd

symbol tries poking into the 3rd
luckly for symbol, yoda doesn't have concussive shells
infestor pit + roach speed starting for symbol
4th CC starting by yoda
yoda doing a push onto symbol's side of the map
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
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