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International Fund for Animal Welfare, is a lucky charity 
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Very excited. Good luck guys, I'm sure it'll go great!
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Hey, Nice Tournament!! I will definitely watch it.
PS: Pls edit the Thread, ReaL is Protoss 
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Wow, this great event definitly deserves some more attention! I hope it goes well. Grubby should win it imo.
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Grubby fighting ^__^
Gogo show us some sweet games
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Things are about to "HEAT" up in Berlin !
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even though I`m a longtime grubby fanboy, I just have to cheer for my zergbuddy. ^_________^
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9m left, enough time to make last minute pasta!
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didnt see much of TLO zergs since he switched again. will be interessting to see how hes doing anyways im rooting for grubby
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Gogo Grubby fighting!
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the music on mori's stream is sexy.
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grubby and TLO hwaiting!!
i love charity events, propz to everybody involved.
EDIT: is it just me or is TBO's stream offline?
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On February 04 2012 22:11 JustPassingBy wrote:
the music on mori's stream is sexy.
Power Rangers xD
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Is their going to be any English stream?
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On February 04 2012 22:17 Seiniyta wrote:
Is their going to be any English stream?
Yes, the one in the OP: http://www.regame.tv/live/2404
But it's not online yet.
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Thanks, kinda thought that one would be German.
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there should be TB is over their now and is casting this tournament just dont know when.
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Is there a possiblity to mute Mori's stream permanently? I am currently watching some GSL in the background, but the ads keep unmuting the stream...
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Mori just gave a heads up, TB is setting up his stream and should hopefully be online soon. Dont worry !
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Hey everybody,
a small Update we had some fucked up problems with the graphics card for the production pc (werent able to use 3 monitors which is need for picture in picture). we are using my private graphics card now, which is now working we are now in the process of finalizing everything. and the stream will be up soon
@SpecialEndrey on twitter for more updates
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The poll results looks crazy. C'mon guys, let's get ReaL.
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Technical difficulties are killing charities. 
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I kind of want to support TLO in this, but I like his beard too much. Tough times.
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Only German stream? Really? :/
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On February 04 2012 22:35 Zeetox wrote:
Only German stream? Really? :/
Only for the warmup game because of technical difficulties with the english stream.
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On February 04 2012 22:30 Sp00ly wrote:
I kind of want to support TLO in this, but I like his beard too much. Tough times.
I highly doubt this tournament will count, heh.
On February 04 2012 22:35 Zeetox wrote:
Only German stream? Really? :/
Read up before you QQ !
Edit: @Totalbiscuit Going on air in few minutes for the HEAT Charity tournament live from Berlin
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Yay, Grubby whiping the floor with Tarson xD.
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On February 04 2012 22:49 Liveon wrote:
Yay, Grubby whiping the floor with Tarson xD.
yeah.. as a protos he knows that building a kazillion ghosts is the way to go =)
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Get your tinfoil hats they are here !
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Read the OP, OMG! There is the stream. But mute it...
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oh ok, thanks, i've had that one open for like an hour now. was just wondering cause the german caster said it's up now when nothing had really changed, and that's not totalbiscuit's stream but TBO's...
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Tarson and Grubby doing another practice match on the German stream. ZvZ this time lol
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On February 04 2012 23:07 Schelim wrote:
oh ok, thanks, i've had that one open for like an hour now. was just wondering cause the german caster said it's up now when nothing had really changed, and that's not totalbiscuit's stream but TBO's...
Because TB might use TBO's stream i reckon.
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On February 04 2012 23:11 Sp00ly wrote:
Tarson and Grubby doing another practice match on the German stream. ZvZ this time lol
Great way to deal with delays :D
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So, first they had problems with their graphics and now it's the sound. Couldn't they test and fix this before the event started?
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if moris studio is in berlin just get tb there asap - problem solved
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Just check the cables on the production pc...
And lower music volume on stream... We can't hear TB at all.
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haha i enjoying the delay, the zvz was entertaining. Who needs roaches i gots infested terrans! More suprisingly the fight was so close if not for the spines. basically 2 fungals on grubbys side where missing and there would have been just infestors left on both sides + few hydras.
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beautiful host! and TB also looks nice with the beard!
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they checked cables like 20 times
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That's just ridiculous that they don't have anyone who would be able to fix audio feedback.
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is this the same organization from battle in berlin?
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the humming is so ... steady. I don't think it origins from a recording device or mic, more likely that it's caused by the processing, no?
what do you guys think? any ideas?
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On February 04 2012 23:58 luis_fps wrote:
is this the same organization from battle in berlin?
yes, it's the same venue
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On February 05 2012 00:02 GPCyanide wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 23:58 luis_fps wrote:
is this the same organization from battle in berlin? yes, it's the same venue
And the sad thing is that they didn't even learn from their previous mistakes. I mean cmon, same shit as BiB, are you serious?
I feel so sad because the idea behind this was so good but the executions destroys it so badly.
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On February 05 2012 00:02 GPCyanide wrote:
the humming is so ... steady. I don't think it origins from a recording device or mic, more likely that it's caused by the processing, no?
what do you guys think? any ideas?
More like there is a static on one of the jacks.
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I didn't watch BiB.
I'm currently in skype contact with one of them, so if you guys have any idea on the sound issues... feel free to guess
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Some jack not really plugged in or a broken cable? ;o)
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If that is true please relay to them that the sound issue is a grounding issue. Meaning that the electrical setup itself, how it's wired is sending feedback through the ground wire. This can be as simple as having a fan plugged into the same spot as the sound. How it's wired electrically is what is causing the problem. I have typed this out in chat sevral times.
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@GPCyanide - Tell them to unplug the sound card, uninstall the drivers, plug-in the sound card and then install the drivers. If they have an internal one, try changing the PCI-E port (i have SoundBlaster and it also does this kind of noises, when put in to close to a graphics card). Also, my father's work is all about audio systems and he told me that it sounds like the cable was broken, so you should try changing the cables.
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Looks like Mori will cast in english
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On February 05 2012 00:11 Xenom666 wrote:
If that is true please relay to them that the sound issue is a grounding issue. Meaning that the electrical setup itself, how it's wired is sending feedback through the ground wire. This can be as simple as having a fan plugged into the same spot as the sound. How it's wired electrically is what is causing the problem. I have typed this out in chat sevral times.
Yup, I'd bet 5 bucks that it's a ground loop. If you run a wire from a sound system in one room on 'ground loop A' across the hall into the streaming setup in another room on 'ground loop B' without disconnecting the grounding of the wire (through whatever audio technicans use), then these loops connect through the breaker box (or just along the powerline between different sockets) into a giant antenna and voltage bleeds into the audio, humming like crazy..
You really need to disconnect them or at least try to unplug one system and 'reverse polarity' by plugging them upside down, sometimes that's already enough to cancel the effect..
I had that issue at home while connecting a console to a audio system with power sockets that were right next to each other..was scary&loud as hell.. xD
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On February 05 2012 00:11 Xenom666 wrote:
If that is true please relay to them that the sound issue is a grounding issue. Meaning that the electrical setup itself, how it's wired is sending feedback through the ground wire. This can be as simple as having a fan plugged into the same spot as the sound. How it's wired electrically is what is causing the problem. I have typed this out in chat sevral times.
I forwarded this... but these were first thoughts exactly yet they stated that they have unplugged everything... broken jack could be the issue but i dont see any fixing of that any time soon...
Personally I think they should have checked several hours beforehand.
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That caster looks like a mix between Djwheat and Day9, lookwise.
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Looks like they have given up "Ok sadly it looks like they cannot get the stream working, we will release vods from the event. Sorry everyone, I'll let you know if changes" TB on twitter
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On February 05 2012 00:16 Nienordir wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 00:11 Xenom666 wrote:
If that is true please relay to them that the sound issue is a grounding issue. Meaning that the electrical setup itself, how it's wired is sending feedback through the ground wire. This can be as simple as having a fan plugged into the same spot as the sound. How it's wired electrically is what is causing the problem. I have typed this out in chat sevral times. Yup, I'd bet 5 bucks that it's a ground loop. If you run a wire from a sound system in one room on 'ground loop A' across the hall into the streaming setup in another room on 'ground loop B' without disconnecting the grounding of the wire (through whatever audio technicans use), then these loops connect through the breaker box (or just along the powerline between different sockets) into a giant antenna and voltage bleeds into the audio, humming like crazy.. You really need to disconnect them or at least try to unplug one system and 'reverse polarity' by plugging them upside down, sometimes that's already enough to cancel the effect.. I had that issue at home while connecting a console to a audio system with power sockets that were right next to each other..was scary&loud as hell.. xD
As did I. In the example I used, I was the idiot who plugged his fan into the same power strip. It took me hours to figure out what was happening. When I did, I can not explain in words how mad I was.
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NOOOOO where is da english stream
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For some reason, the streams have no sound for me
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This tournament is such a fail. Only german stream available and my ears hurt (no offense to germans, I just don't like how their language sounds).
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Oh no, that's really bad! Well, I watch the german stream.
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if they would at least play game sound or... like only plug in TBs mic in the streaming PC... but yeah it's a live event
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so a streaming plattform sponsors this event and is not able to get the streams running. TT
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So is this german guy at the site? I mean if u get one stream working shouldnt you prioritize an english caster on that one?
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On February 05 2012 00:23 arQ wrote:
So is this german guy at the site? I mean if u get one stream working shouldnt you prioritize an english caster on that one?
He's not.
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On February 05 2012 00:22 zul wrote:
so a streaming plattform sponsors this event and is not able to get the streams running. TT
if you mean regame.tv their site bugs me out everytime but it's clearly not their fault
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@arQ Mori is streaming from his studio, about 15 minutes driving time from the tournament venue as I've heard
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On February 05 2012 00:26 Zeetox wrote:
@arQ Mori is streaming from his studio, about 15 minutes driving time from the tournament venue as I've heard
why not drive TB there?
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Because TB is commentanting on the main stage
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Is TB casting for a live audience too? Otherwise I dont get the choice to bring him to Germany for this. All the trouble setting up a stream when u could have an english caster to the same thing that this guy Mori is doing.
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exchange the casters, it's a german audience at the venue anyway...
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I second the opinion that this does sound exactly like a ground loop ("Brummschleife" is the German buzzword). You can verify this by measuring the frequency of the hum - it should be exactly 50Hz, the frequency of the alternating current in Germany.
If you can, get a trained sound engineer on site, ideally some older guy who has experience with the analog side of things. (As far as I know there is no simple fix to this, as it depends on the connections between the audio equipment, plus the details of the power wiring to each piece of machinery.)
Possibly workaround: filter out the 50Hz hum electronically in the digital sound stream. This will not eliminate it completely, but could make it much more bearable.
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you cannot live filter the 50Hz issue via software - you need a simple hardware 50 Hz filter do surpass that problem, we/they are still working on it
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On February 05 2012 00:38 BronzElite wrote:
I second the opinion that this does sound exactly like a ground loop ("Brummschleife" is the German buzzword). You can verify this by measuring the frequency of the hum - it should be exactly 50Hz, the frequency of the alternating current in Germany.
If you can, get a trained sound engineer on site, ideally some older guy who has experience with the analog side of things. (As far as I know there is no simple fix to this, as it depends on the connections between the audio equipment, plus the details of the power wiring to each piece of machinery.)
Possibly workaround: filter out the 50Hz hum electronically in the digital sound stream. This will not eliminate it completely, but could make it much more bearable.
listen to this man. I wonder why they didn`t test it beforehand. Wasn`t this the exact same problem when they used that location the last time ?
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great first game already!
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Someone could tell me what's wrong with streams? I was waiting for this event... :/
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no sound @english stream?
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On February 05 2012 00:45 MarieJohanna wrote:
no sound @english stream?
yea and that geman one is lagging like hell
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On February 05 2012 00:32 JimPanzer wrote:
exchange the casters, it's a german audience at the venue anyway...
live audience paid 12€ to hear TB cast. Just saying you cant break contracts like that
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On February 05 2012 00:45 GPCyanide wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 00:32 JimPanzer wrote:
exchange the casters, it's a german audience at the venue anyway... live audience paid 12€ to hear TB cast. Just saying you cant break contracts like that
TB and TLO
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lol no eng stream? lucky mom spoke german to me at home i guess.
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They should phone Khaldor to step in as english caster while they work on the issues, he always does stuff like that. ;D
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On February 05 2012 00:02 GPCyanide wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 23:58 luis_fps wrote:
is this the same organization from battle in berlin? yes, it's the same venue
no it's not -___ ck99 is not universal hall afaik..
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nothjing's going right atm... i feel so sorry for them
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On February 05 2012 00:48 Artrey wrote:
They should phone Khaldor to step in as english caster while they work on the issues, he always does stuff like that. ;D
battle in berlin mhm?
khaldor is always ready to rumble
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On February 05 2012 00:56 GPCyanide wrote:
nothjing's going right atm... i feel so sorry for them
Yeah, me too :|
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Typical Tarson bio.... All red and deadly ^^
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Sorry, but this event is a joke. U want to charity some foundation with money from stream adds, when stream is lagging or without sound ? U should prepare everything 2 days before main event and test it. I want to tune in, but i need to forgive this event. Better would be if i donate directly one foundation than watching this stream without sound...
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Someone should rescue that stream
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On February 05 2012 00:38 BronzElite wrote:
I second the opinion that this does sound exactly like a ground loop ("Brummschleife" is the German buzzword). You can verify this by measuring the frequency of the hum - it should be exactly 50Hz, the frequency of the alternating current in Germany.
If you can, get a trained sound engineer on site, ideally some older guy who has experience with the analog side of things. (As far as I know there is no simple fix to this, as it depends on the connections between the audio equipment, plus the details of the power wiring to each piece of machinery.)
Possibly workaround: filter out the 50Hz hum electronically in the digital sound stream. This will not eliminate it completely, but could make it much more bearable.
Well, there are 2 'easy&dirty' possible fixes for that. =) One is to unplug the power of the computer and plugging it back in upside down, a very cheap try to cancel the hum, but it doesn't always work.
The other option is to physically disconnect the grounding of the audio wire, depending on the plug used, that can be as simply as wrapping a piece of tape around the bottom of the plug or pressing a button on the device. But it can cause a variety of other issue and usually isn't a good idea..
Aside from those last resort options, yeah the only solid way to actually fix it is a professional technican, who knows what he's doing and has the proper tools available to deal with it, but for some reason I doubt they have one available, as they haven't fixed it nor seem to know what's wrong, which seems quite obvious after hearing that they 'unplugged everything', but there's no point in unplugging things (which I assume as 'only audio wires', since the stream wasn't down long enough for a reboot), when you plug all connections back in, in the same way and don't isolate the connection that causes the issue.
Either way it sucks, for the people in the venue, because the waiting was boring and for the people at home, because nothing happens.. :/
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I'm happy to see Tarson back at a good level
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this is incredibly disappointing.
Especially with charities involved, this cannot happen.
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I hope they at least let a random english caster cast it off-site. I don't really mind the german but i see no reason not to get in an english caster untill the local issues are fixed.
Also: Mori9's stream isn't lagging for me at all.
Edit: It just started lagging for me >.<
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I don't understand why they can't get an emergency caster not on site to join games and cast in English while they sort out TB's problem. It's a charity event ffs, anyone would do it.
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it's like 1.20am in korea, time for khaldor to step in and cast the event in english xD
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suddenly..... Sound! (just hope we get to hear the casting too)
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I have sound now on the engish stream!
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Me too, hope to hear casting soon too.
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we have sound, but no commentator
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no commentary so far : ( but well will watch it anyway !
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Yay, Special Endrey savest he day
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now they only need to get a caster and put the stream back on the tl sidebar
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Nice. Still on german stream for now (dutch & german is comparable), please keep me posted if the english stream starts
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finally casting, now I can resume watching. what is the score right now?
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On February 05 2012 01:30 JustPassingBy wrote:
finally casting, now I can resume watching. what is the score right now?
I think it's 1-1 right now.
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damn it tarson, what scrappy play! don't tell me they allow him to play sober?
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supergood micro again from the grubmaster. Nice game.
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n1 grubby
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I stream the English part for the moment here at the office of the CK-99 www.endrey.com / ww.fuckyeah.tv or just top right on TL.net
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ur doing good Endrey! keep it coming (:
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haha I love Tobi
you can watch the german stream that was posted earlier, they talk english atm
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who is this girl on the german stream o.O
and the venue seems cold, sucks for the players
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On February 05 2012 01:49 Special Endrey wrote:I stream the English part for the moment here at the office of the CK-99 www.endrey.com / ww.fuckyeah.tv or just top right on TL.net thank you. :-)
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Grubby rollin' through =)
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that was so close! gogo real!
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On February 05 2012 02:22 GoSuChicken wrote:
where is TBs cast?
still working on stream
they will get it up running sooner or later
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Real's play looks really scrappy, not sure what is going on with him.
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these games look like mid-masters games
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Pretty boring game but hey...at least TLO won it!
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Mutaling is always so painful to watch.
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that great game by tlo.. liquid fighting!!
muta ling combo destroys
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mad props to the caster dude freezing his ass off without sleep and food to cast some games for us. i have tuned in just to support
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They're doing interview with TLO on TBO stream, and there is no voice... T.T
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lol @ the guy running by the webcam
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from what I see the girl is great as a host! she seems really natural and confident on stage. hope to see her more at sc2 events!
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Why do I have no sound?
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Very disappointed you guys can't hear the commentary, Grubby and TLO are both amazing casters. I've been told the VoDs do have sound, since the commentary will be added in post production from a seperate source and they'll be released as promptly as possible.
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Hope u can do a recast with commentary (like ign does), get some extra cash for the charity and we can listen to the good stuff.
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I wanna see Haven's Lagoon! But maybe everyone is vetoing it?
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On February 05 2012 03:27 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Very disappointed you guys can't hear the commentary, Grubby and TLO are both amazing casters. I've been told the VoDs do have sound, since the commentary will be added in post production from a seperate source and they'll be released as promptly as possible.
please tell Schlumpfine and Gowerly to stop trolling!^^
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nice game by tlo, i thought he was done for sure
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TLO about to get shaved ?
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well there's no money on the line. Iirc he will be shaving as soon as he gets a money win in a big tournament, no?
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Endrey is about to pass out trying to save the tournament.
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Big props to Endrey, doing what he can while freezing and being tired. Great job. Hopefully he can get another blanket or something.
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TLO is just winning so he can talk to that pretty girl! BUSTED TLO!!!
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Im so happy seeing TLO winning , and by watching the muted TB stream it looks like he is flirting with the girl
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Good performance by TLO so far (better than I thought) and pretty entertaining games. I think he could have won the first game against Real but I really didn't think he'd win the first game against Tarson, so well done, sir.
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Game 2 vs Tarson was just beautiful played. I`m not sure whether winning this cup qualifies for him getting shaved but maybe as a little reward he might trim his beard somewhat (to the level that he can eat tomato sauce again without making a mess)!
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come on... why didn't you get twitch or own3d to sponsor you? this regame.tv streams are SOOOOOOOO BAD unbelievable...
nice tournament nevertheless - looks good for climate.org atm xD
good to see TLO doing so well so far
hope he finally gets to shave after this
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Endrey looking like a mummy ;-)
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Due to no sound on stream I missed the awesome 10 minute interview with Dario and Soe. I'm so sad. :'(
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What happend in the first game? I missed it :S
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I hope they will save vods of the interviews. Missed them all TT.
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On February 05 2012 04:50 davidk wrote:
What happend in the first game? I missed it :S
real went dts
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"This attack worked out for real, man!" LOL yo
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real needs to invest into something with more long term potential, like upgrades or collossi.
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Hm, I think Real needs to work on his transitions from cheese into a stable mid/lategame. Once the warp prism is defended he looks not too strong.
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ReaL is nothing when its a REAL game LOLOL o_o
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On February 05 2012 04:50 davidk wrote:
What happend in the first game? I missed it :S
real rushed for DTs, Grubby went blink-stalker (with no observer in sight xd)
bad game :x
2nd game was much better though, Grubby caught him Real-ly off guard with the Chargelots
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On February 05 2012 05:07 hooahah wrote:
2nd game was much better though, Grubby caught him Real-ly off guard with the Chargelots
Also Grubby targetted down Real's immortals while Real didn't
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lol@ pointing out that shark
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We need TLO vs Grubby now ^^ !!
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To bad tarson vs real doesn't matter.
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On February 05 2012 05:25 Roxor9999 wrote:
To bad tarson vs real doesn't matter.
It will not be played as a result.
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On February 05 2012 05:27 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 05:25 Roxor9999 wrote:
To bad tarson vs real doesn't matter. It will not be played as a result.
Not a bad thing imo, considering how far behind schedule everything is.
Haha, just caught the player facts about TLO on the main stream. "Slow Beard Growth" and "Hard to Observe" =)
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i'm betting on us getting to see 8 grubby vs TLO games tonight
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On February 05 2012 05:41 Derrida wrote:
Eat your damn pizza TB!
Trying to man! First food I've had for 12 hours
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Is it just me or is it impossible to hear Tb and apollo. I could swear it worked a minute ago.
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Was about to say it looks like you lost some weight. looking good.
Also gratz on joining EG, nice chinbeard hehe...
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is there supposed to be sound oR?
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Is anyone else not getting any sound? I get sound during adverts; however, no actual sound from stream.
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Germany2687 Posts
The sound from the main-stage broadcast is not working, watch Special Endrey's stream for English commentary.
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Grubbaduby doing well, hoping TLO can take it back! :D
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What an AWESOME play by Grubbster! He's definitely now one of the best tosses out there. So glad that he finally managed to up his game. Now I only hope we can see one day Grubby dominating same way as he did in WC3.
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The warp prism + sentry micro to keep the ramp FF'ed was probably the coolest thing i've seen in a while. Grubby fighting!
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So is it meant to be no sound on the tbo stream? where are you tb?
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really unlucky game for TLO, he saw that warp prisms play coming and defended that Push with practically no units, by awesome decision making and still lost, because this sentry block is simply stupid ( and i say that as a protoss player ), still well executed by Grubby
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You are drunk Endrey not tired be honest with us
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hopefully the sound will work soon. I think endrey will fall asleep mid sentence soon :D keep the spirit up enderey, you can do it :D
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On February 05 2012 05:59 ChaosArcher wrote:
really unlucky game for TLO, he saw that warp prisms play coming and defended that Push with practically no units, by awesome decision making and still lost, because this sentry block is simply stupid ( and i say that as a protoss player ), still well executed by Grubby
Why is it stupid? You can defend it if you want to....
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Edit: oops need to learn to refresh before posting
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On February 05 2012 06:00 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 05:59 ChaosArcher wrote:
really unlucky game for TLO, he saw that warp prisms play coming and defended that Push with practically no units, by awesome decision making and still lost, because this sentry block is simply stupid ( and i say that as a protoss player ), still well executed by Grubby Why is it stupid? You can defend it if you want to....
If it is so easy to defend, it wouldnt be such a popular tactic.
Zerg units are useless if they are split, and you cant stop the reinforcing, in my eyes, you shouldnt be able to warp in on creep, you cant build pylons there either!
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why does tlo never build more than like 60 drones?
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Grubby needs to Chronoboost his Carriers and upgrades
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Damn I love Endreys Commentary right now :D
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Wow this totally looks like a SC2 Trailer, crazy 2 minutes Broodwarish fights i love it!
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awesome game by both players!!
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Entertaining game. Lets see how this will end. Could be anyones game.
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On February 05 2012 06:23 CosmoK wrote:
Entertaining game. Lets see how this will end. Could be anyones game.
I think TLO will win cause of his ling runby actions, the 2 nexus sniped were crucial
But maybe Grubby can pull it off, would be awesome.
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Thats why you dont go for carrier
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LOL final fight not even close!
GG
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Grubby was all but certain to win that game, then he built carriers.
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Lol corrupters are so retarded. Takes no time to build, and a few of them oneshots anything. Oh well, fun game!
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On February 05 2012 06:25 Tarotis wrote:Thats why you dont go for carrier
They can be good, but having 3/4 of you army as carriers is pretty dangerous.
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funny game
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Oh Wow. Epic Match. TLO <3
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holla die waldfee! really nice game by both
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On February 05 2012 06:26 arQ wrote:
Lol corrupters are so retarded. Takes no time to build, and a few of them oneshots anything. Oh well, fun game!
Don't even go there. Grubby should not have attacked straight into those spores.
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GG TLO IS BACK!
Probably the best game ive seen in a long time, TLO was so dead, but this ling runbys won him the game, also this Neutral Parasite on the Mothership, Vortexing the Protoss army, just priceless !
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he had to push with the carriers after killing everything TLO had >_<
goddamn carriers @_@
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Carrier would even lose to Ultralisks in a straight up fight :D
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On February 05 2012 06:25 Tarotis wrote:Thats why you dont go for carrier
Carriers were not the problem, the problem was that Grubby lost his mining expansions to ling runbys and was down like 2 or 3 bases....That could've happened with other compositions too.
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5 cannons? np, ling runby nexus snipe.
5 spines? shit, no zealot hatchery snipes.
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TLO won with that clutch NP on the mothership. Grubby was feedbacking the infestors in the wrong order, haha.
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feels like the mothership is so crucial, being able to vortex the corrupters with archons around would make a huge difference.
Also a few phoenix could be helpful, graviton beam cancels neural parasite.
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I don't wanna read through all these pages but is the TBO stream muted for everyone? and do you guys have lag issues with the special endrey stream as well? (LQ AND HQ)
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On February 05 2012 06:29 Derrida wrote:
5 cannons? np, ling runby nexus snipe.
5 spines? shit, no zealot hatchery snipes.
5 Spines don't hold as much ressources in zealots as TLO sacrificed in lings ><
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On February 05 2012 06:30 Ficetool wrote:
I don't wanna read through all these pages but is the TBO stream muted for everyone? and do you guys have lag issues with the special endrey stream as well? (LQ AND HQ)
Yes, there is no sound for the TBO stream because they have problems with it. But all streams are NOT lagging for me.
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Seems like TLO´s dedication is slowly but surely paying off. He showed some really impressive games today. That or maybe he just wants to get rid of the beard ^^.
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On February 05 2012 06:32 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 06:30 Ficetool wrote:
I don't wanna read through all these pages but is the TBO stream muted for everyone? and do you guys have lag issues with the special endrey stream as well? (LQ AND HQ) Yes, there is no sound for the TBO stream because they have problems with it. But all streams are NOT lagging for me.
Thank you very much for your reply!
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On February 05 2012 06:34 Ficetool wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 06:32 KiNGxXx wrote:On February 05 2012 06:30 Ficetool wrote:
I don't wanna read through all these pages but is the TBO stream muted for everyone? and do you guys have lag issues with the special endrey stream as well? (LQ AND HQ) Yes, there is no sound for the TBO stream because they have problems with it. But all streams are NOT lagging for me. Thank you very much for your reply!
No problem mate
Love the friendly chat between the players. They seem to have fun! :D
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I like how SpecialEndrey seems to completely shut off for a few seconds every other minute^^ The guy should definitely get some rest (as soon as the tourney is done of course).
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Oh man, Endrey is really tired :D
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No way he'll be still awake during the finals, they should really get him a co-caster... and a space heater.
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Great fights by TLO (good flanks and he knows when to pull back) and also denying the third base for Grubby is really good for him.
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Grubby had 1,6k mins @ 2 bases
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What the hell is Grubby doing?
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Yeah TLO! Happy to see him doing well!
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nice comeback by TLO. I thought he was done after losing the 3rd.
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hey what do you know, TLO still got it if he wants to..
..on another note, Endrey is the coolest
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On February 05 2012 06:50 KiNGxXx wrote:Yeah TLO! Happy to see him doing well!
this may be just the push he needs. he deserves to come back big time...
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poor Endrey...but GOGO TLO! man grubby should've had that in the bag after sacking TLO's third
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TBO stream = The Bearded One stream
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Great somnambulic cast Endrey! You've definitely been one of my favorite sc2 casters since many moths already. Thx for the good work, please keep it up
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the sound is bugged in TBo stream or only me? :S
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On February 05 2012 06:58 luciusvlm wrote:
the sound is bugged in TBo stream or only me? :S
TBO's stream has no sound because of technical issues, it hasn't had good sound for the entire event so I don't think it'll be fixed before it ends.
Watch Endrey's stream for english commentary or Mori09's stream for german
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I don't hear commentary on Endrey's stream, only in-game sounds. >_>
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SpecialEndrey casting HEAT in freezing cold Berlin:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AR7Oi.gif)
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one has to wonder when endrey will pass out :D
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Does anyone know how many people are watching the event live?
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omg endrey is so awesome, totally worth my first post on TL =)
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Why is it named HEAT? It doesn't look warm at all.
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Real coming back strong!
Would't be a real starcraft tournament without a Korean in the finals.
Korea imba! ^^
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i hope real will get featured now
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SpecialEndrey casting more HEAT:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NDNcs.gif)
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On February 05 2012 09:07 propulsion wrote:SpecialEndrey casting more HEAT:
endrey is the cooles, sickest motherfucker around shame, that he lost his cast-beer drinking habit tho..
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I'm no expert in PvZ but was that all-in really necessary?
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On February 05 2012 09:15 CosmoK wrote:
I'm no expert in PvZ but was that all-in really necessary?
Nah he should just gg when the wall was up. Its a loss.
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On February 05 2012 09:15 CosmoK wrote:
I'm no expert in PvZ but was that all-in really necessary?
Yes, that was unwinnable for TLO
Unless Real goes afk or movecommands his army of course :p
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Guys I missed game 3, what happened that it was over after 5:50?
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On February 05 2012 09:19 Ficetool wrote:
Guys I missed game 3, what happened that it was over after 5:50?
TLO got punished for going Hatch first. Real closed the choke between TLOs Main and Natural with cannons
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On February 05 2012 09:19 Ficetool wrote:
Guys I missed game 3, what happened that it was over after 5:50?
15 hatch for TLO on Bel'Shir, Real pylonblocked the entrance
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Ah okay... I was like: wh00t? I was just away for a sec and we have the score screen already??=D
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Good micro by TLO focus-firing all those Stalkers and cleaning up the rest of the army afterwards.
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Yay for the ace match :-)
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Clever move by TLO. holding 4 lings on the ramp so the stalkers can't get high ground vision to blink.
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I'd like to take the opportunity to say thanks to the orgas (dispite some horrible technical issues...), to the players, who agreed to participate for no revenue, and to the casters.
Special thanks to Special Endrey, who sacrifed almost the entire day - out of the schedule - for making english commentaries possible. Always nice cast by him.
I saw some great games and a reasonable event.
More charity in starcraft please!
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Gratz TLO! Props to Endrey for casting under this circumstances!
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Gratz to TLO & myclimate.org, and props to Endrey for not passing out!
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i guess this tournament is only worth a trim :X
nice games, in particular the tlo vs grubby series (last game?), def. worth a watch!
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I would have loved to get some impressions of the venue as well as TBs cast with some pros but nevertheless it was a very enjoyable event for me!
Thanks to all the organizers and SpecialEndrey for his emergency cast.
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I only catched the playoffs so it seems i didn't have to endure a lot of problems.
Quite sad TBO-stream was without sound, but Grubby giving TLO his scarf was one of the cutest things ever anyways ^^
Hope the organizers learn from their mistakes and won't be flamed to much.
The event was a great idea and it's simply unfortunate it turned out like that.
So: GZ TLO - you earned it big times
Thx for this cool charity tounament
And plz hurry to upload the VODs :D:D
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hope there will be VODs of all the awesome interviews we could only watch without sound
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GZ TLO nice to see him getting better.
GL with the technical issues next time,shit happens.
Thx to all the people how make it possible.
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Missed the finals, need Vod!
Gratz TLO!
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yey finally TLO won something
well played and i hope you will finally shave now
thanks also to the organizers and the other players for doing so much for charity
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I feel like a criminal.
I want to apologize for the huge messup. I'm entirely responsible myself for all the technical issues. We got a fine sound signal out of the audio mixer for the on-site sound system and when connecting speakers or headphones instead of the 2 different sound cards we had on the production computer we also had a very clear signal there.
I still don't quite understand what happened, especially as when we tested it before we got a good signal into the computer. My biggest offence probably is that I tried to make the production work like it was planned to instead of realizing that it would be better to give up some parts but have the basics working. In the end the fixes we tried to do messed up the video production too anyways.
I could go into lengthy details what caused us to lose so much time that despite being at the venue since Thursday we couldn't get stuff done properly when it mattered, but in the end it comes down to mistakes on my side.
I'm so sorry for the players, Totalbiscuit, the audience and most of all the charities.. You deserved better.
I disappointed you.
Aurel Wünsch
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On February 05 2012 20:27 TBO wrote:
I disappointed you.
Not really. And even if it were so, there is no need to kill yourself over it.
Please realize that you (and many other young entrepreneurs in this fledgling field of e-sports) are pioneers. You are actively shaping the future. Maybe not in a "save the world" way, but in a significant way, if you compare to "traditional" sports events, and the experience these can be for the competitors and for the audience. (Or if you are a hopeless cynic, look at the amount of money that is being shifted in the traditional sports market.)
As I said, you are a pioneer. Everything is new. There are no established routines, no traditions yet. There is no safe knowledge yet as to what works and what doesn't. Mistakes are bound to happen. If you were discouraged all too easily, we'd all be at a loss.
"Failure is not an option. It is a privilege for those who try."
(That one gets quoted way too often without the context.)
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Having come over from the UK for my first SC2 tournament, I had an amazing time.
It was great to meet everyone, watch the games, listen to the casters (and try to absorb all their knowledge through osmosis or something).
Aurel is an amazing host and really generous. The guys at CK-99 were really accomodating, too. Thanks guys!
I came for a particular reason, a project that Aurel and I were working on: StarGraphed.
Sadly, due to the aforementioned technical difficulties and TB needing my laptop more than I did, I couldn't show it during the stream. However, I got the prototype working and learned the important information from it:
- Any existing map can be modified.
- Neither players nor casters experienced lag, even with the pretty heavy stat output
- It didn't crash horribly
The Eagle Eyed among you may have seen, on Metropolis, some text output saying "Races: 1, 2" for example. Entirely my doing. I didn't upload the new version for that one that removed the debug text. Oops!
Antiga Shipyard didn't work and, stupidly, I made it rely on human interaction. That human being unreliable and really tired: me.
Therefore, we don't get output from all the games. However, We did get a few:
Games 1 - 4 of the final (5 was on Antiga >:|)
The awesome 40 mintute game between TLO and Grubby.
A few others.
What this is:
It is a stat capturing system for modified maps in SC2. The maps are modified to be identical apart from the outputting of information within the game.
The idea of this prototype demonstration was to capture:
Supply makeup, split into workers t1/t2/t3 (ish. Depends on the race, the legends explain the graph)
A heat map of unit combat throughout the map. Unit deaths are recorded by the map and output for StarGraphed to interpret and create a heat map of where everything died.
This is all generated from the gameplay data within 20 seconds of the game finishing!
Introductory map for this: TLO vs Grubby Group Stage Game 3
![[image loading]](http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q619/Gowerly/StarGraphed%20Prototype%20at%20Heat%20Tournament/GrubbyvsTLOGame3.png)
Game 3 of TLO vs Real - TLO's Drone rush (What a game that was):
![[image loading]](http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q619/Gowerly/StarGraphed%20Prototype%20at%20Heat%20Tournament/TLOvsRealGame3Final.png)
Game 2 of TLO vs Grubby (DESTRUCTION!):
![[image loading]](http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q619/Gowerly/StarGraphed%20Prototype%20at%20Heat%20Tournament/GrubbyvsTLOGame2.png)
Disclaimer: I know this one starts at 118/140 food. This is entirely my fault. Thankfully not much fighting had happened at that point.
Full album is available here.
I hope to work on this more in future, add some other features (ability to see only one persons kills in the heat map, allow it to fill in over time, etc)
I must thanks Aurel for taking the time even when organising the tournament to provide me with the maps to edit, and for doing the first draft of the map triggers.
I hope people enjoy seeing Star Graphed and very much hope that it is taken up and used in more tournaments.
Thanks again to Aurel, TotalBiscuit and Soe, as well as the people at CK-99 for running a great tournament. I look forward to going to another tournament soon!
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On February 05 2012 21:13 BronzElite wrote:Not really. And even if it were so, there is no need to kill yourself over it. Please realize that you (and many other young entrepreneurs in this fledgling field of e-sports) are pioneers. You are actively shaping the future. Maybe not in a "save the world" way, but in a significant way, if you compare to "traditional" sports events, and the experience these can be for the competitors and for the audience. (Or if you are a hopeless cynic, look at the amount of money that is being shifted in the traditional sports market.) As I said, you are a pioneer. Everything is new. There are no established routines, no traditions yet. There is no safe knowledge yet as to what works and what doesn't. Mistakes are bound to happen. If you were discouraged all too easily, we'd all be at a loss. "Failure is not an option. It is a privilege for those who try."(That one gets quoted way too often without the context.)
This. I could not have said this any better really. I've only exclusively heard positive reactions about this amazing event.
I'd like to give a special shoutout to SpecialEndrey for being a boss and providing us with an English stream, eventhough he was severly sleep-deprived and was casting the HEAT charity event from a freezing cold back-office ( Oh the irony... )
You sir are a hero.
Also thanks to Mori for keeping the non-german speaking viewers updated at the start of the event, your English is not bad at all and honestly the accent only adds to the charm !
@ Gowerly : that is some really awesome stuff right there, very intresting ! :O
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On February 05 2012 20:27 TBO wrote:
I disappointed you.
Don't feel like that.
It is so awesome that you did this event and as i sad it's simply unfortunate that there were such problems.
I work as an IT-guy myself and I know how hard it is to identify and solve a problem on the spot. Especially when all the testing beforehands seemed to work.
Just try to look at it as a learning experience. You had an amazing idea and a lot of the production stuff was great and showed what passion you and the staff put into it.
I actually look forward to your future events - so stick with it!!
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On February 05 2012 20:27 TBO wrote:
I feel like a criminal.
I want to apologize for the huge messup. I'm entirely responsible myself for all the technical issues. We got a fine sound signal out of the audio mixer for the on-site sound system and when connecting speakers or headphones instead of the 2 different sound cards we had on the production computer we also had a very clear signal there.
I still don't quite understand what happened, especially as when we tested it before we got a good signal into the computer. My biggest offence probably is that I tried to make the production work like it was planned to instead of realizing that it would be better to give up some parts but have the basics working. In the end the fixes we tried to do messed up the video production too anyways.
I could go into lengthy details what caused us to lose so much time that despite being at the venue since Thursday we couldn't get stuff done properly when it mattered, but in the end it comes down to mistakes on my side.
I'm so sorry for the players, Totalbiscuit, the audience and most of all the charities.. You deserved better.
I disappointed you.
Aurel Wünsch
Shit happens, it's a good learning experience however (I hope) for future tournaments.
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On February 05 2012 20:27 TBO wrote:
I feel like a criminal.
I want to apologize for the huge messup. I'm entirely responsible myself for all the technical issues. We got a fine sound signal out of the audio mixer for the on-site sound system and when connecting speakers or headphones instead of the 2 different sound cards we had on the production computer we also had a very clear signal there.
I still don't quite understand what happened, especially as when we tested it before we got a good signal into the computer. My biggest offence probably is that I tried to make the production work like it was planned to instead of realizing that it would be better to give up some parts but have the basics working. In the end the fixes we tried to do messed up the video production too anyways.
I could go into lengthy details what caused us to lose so much time that despite being at the venue since Thursday we couldn't get stuff done properly when it mattered, but in the end it comes down to mistakes on my side.
I'm so sorry for the players, Totalbiscuit, the audience and most of all the charities.. You deserved better.
I disappointed you.
Aurel Wünsch
i think it's fine, i had a commentary and moving picture.
i dont see any problem.
Wünsch ftw!
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if you feel bad, just do another
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I am everything but dissapointed.
Working in the industry since 5 years and I can honestly say I have been doing a ton of bad events. That said I need to point out that this one really wasnt one of them. Sure, some things didn't work. Sure, it was annoying and I felt sorry for the guys at home who couldnt watch the stream they were looking for. But the people at the venue did everything they possibly could have done to try and fix it. U guys prepared for this event long in advance (also tested it beforehand etc.) and what counts the most, u put your heart into it, trying to make it the best u can because it was important to u and every single person here should do nothing other than appreciate your effort.
Things just cannot always go right, thats how the universe apparently works.
All I can say is that I am grateful I got asked todo the hosting there, I enjoyed working with u guys at the first Heat tournament u asked me to, and the same applies for this one aswell despite the issues. You have done all you could to make it as nice as possible for everyone at home aswell as at the venue itself. There are things you can neither controle nor forsee and I am very sure the next event is going to be great!
I wanna thank everyone who has been patient and understanding, aswell as everyone who helped out or tried to help out, be it with a comment here on tl or otherwise.
And if there was only fucking (s'cuse me) 5 dollars of stream revenue and just a single donation, I'd say it was absolutely worth the effort because every single person..every single cent..and every event such as this one, makes a difference and helps the world aswell as our community.
Loads of blahblah, to get to the point: Thank you for the event and I personally hope for many more heat events to come!
ps: sorry for the typos, I am still tried lol
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I'll admit, I was a bit annoyed with the delay at the beginning, thinking "why couldn't they test the f**ing sound beforehand ??". I just had to realize that I completely forgot about Murphy's law on the one hand and that it's all about charity on the other hand. Also, with the stream being for free, you don't have the right to be annoyed when a gift from somebody is not perfect
I think you all did a great show for the audience who paid their entrance fees and Special Endrey saved everyone's day who was watching the stream with his polar bear impersonation. Thank you for all your hard work, for everyone's patience and for this awesome tournament
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I hate to jump on the bandwagon here, but does anybody know when/if there will be vods of this?
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the vods of my backdoor casts are currently beeing uploaded. dont know about those from the mainstage just yet
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On February 06 2012 03:50 Special Endrey wrote:
the vods of my backdoor casts are currently beeing uploaded. dont know about those from the mainstage just yet
I wonder if it will have the random cameo's too, if anyone runs into these let us know where to find them...other viewers will might what i'm talking about. xD
Though i understand if you cut this out if they're your collegues or w/e Endrey.. =D
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Hey TBO,
I was there yesterday on site and in the end I really enjoyed it. I admit I get a little cranky when I have to wait somewhere for 2h and it doesnt start. Working in IT I know how it is and I know all the shit that can happen and will happen if you least expect it or need it too, but in the end on theses days im only a normal guy getting a little frustrated that again at a live event i have to sit in a chair for 2h. I applaud you for doing the interviews with TLO and TB to give us at least a little entertainment that helped and was nice. After everything started I had greart time yesterday. Even my gf who isnt really inte SC2 got really into it and enjoyed the evening. So maybe that gets your spirit up a little, you entertained a non Starcraft fan that evening. I admit the great TLO games helped
In the end all I wanna say is, I feel kinda sorry for being "mad" at you for all the waiting (it wasnt really personal directed at u, more a frustration about waiting ) yesterday and that it still was a great little tournement especially since TLO won something and I was F**** there We had a great time ....
PS.: I live in Berlin and seeing this was now the 2nd event I was at in berlin and recognized a lot of people from the first, is there a way to help? Id really like getting involved and lending u guys a hand with this sorta stuff.
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On February 05 2012 20:27 TBO wrote:
I feel like a criminal.
I want to apologize for the huge messup. I'm entirely responsible myself for all the technical issues. We got a fine sound signal out of the audio mixer for the on-site sound system and when connecting speakers or headphones instead of the 2 different sound cards we had on the production computer we also had a very clear signal there.
I still don't quite understand what happened, especially as when we tested it before we got a good signal into the computer. My biggest offence probably is that I tried to make the production work like it was planned to instead of realizing that it would be better to give up some parts but have the basics working. In the end the fixes we tried to do messed up the video production too anyways.
I could go into lengthy details what caused us to lose so much time that despite being at the venue since Thursday we couldn't get stuff done properly when it mattered, but in the end it comes down to mistakes on my side.
I'm so sorry for the players, Totalbiscuit, the audience and most of all the charities.. You deserved better.
I disappointed you.
Aurel Wünsch
Nah, you did well, Aurel.
There is only so much you can do, and given the circumstances you did all you could. I can attest to that because I was sitting right next to you, Schlumpfine, and Gowerly (awesome tech stuff btw, Mr Heat Map Guy! ) for quite some time. I'm glad I could help out some with updating the thread and assisting Schlumpfine.
Let me know if you need help for the next installment of HEAT or a similar event in Berlin.
Shoutouts to all the tech guys, Aurel, Marco, Schlumpfine, Gowerly, the CK-99 staff, the players for the great games they played, Soe for hosting and the great player interviews, TotalBiscuit for the relentless professional casting, Dennis a.k.a. TaKe for the guest casting, and Special Endrey for the impromptu casting from a freezing office! Well done! 
Next time I will stay until the end again.
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it was a great event. Next time we fu** murphy
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