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United States15275 Posts
On January 31 2012 11:52 Nibbler89 wrote:Poor forgg has to play vs protoss again  . if he got idra would be almost a sure win with his mechanics. I wonder if he'd actually rather play losira than core considering how TvP has been going in GSL and GSTL this season.
Think of it as a learning experience. He needs to get better at it anyway.
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Awesome work seeker and Odoakar, needs more bulgogi though
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On January 31 2012 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:52 Nibbler89 wrote:Poor forgg has to play vs protoss again . if he got idra would be almost a sure win with his mechanics. I wonder if he'd actually rather play losira than core considering how TvP has been going in GSL and GSTL this season. Think of it as a learning experience. He needs to get better at it anyway.
it's better he learn TvP when it's P favored, so he can focus on getting more used to the game overall>
ForGG isn't code S quality yet, he's mid code A at best right now, he's not solid enough overall.
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On January 31 2012 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:52 Nibbler89 wrote:Poor forgg has to play vs protoss again . if he got idra would be almost a sure win with his mechanics. I wonder if he'd actually rather play losira than core considering how TvP has been going in GSL and GSTL this season. Think of it as a learning experience. He needs to get better at it anyway.
Well I predict he will probably want to open with all in, either 2 rax into 1 base medivac build or some version of 1-1-1 . If he all ins at least once and it works I predict 2-1 for Fin over core. If core plays double forge macro game and fin plays macro game I predict 2-0 or 2-1 for core , with the one loss being where core either does a pointless attack that doesn't work(like moving out at 150 supply with 3 collosus and 2-2 when Terran is finishing 2-1) or takes his third too early along with tech and gets peeled apart by drops(aka almost every pvt before this season ~_~)) .
Forgg has amazing mechanics and it shows in TvZ and TvT but it matters less when you play vs a protoss who constantly chronoboosts upgrades. You know what all that macro,micro and fancy drops will do for you when you are down an upgrade vs armor and they have guardian shield? well.. you can micro marines doing 2 damage a shot and marauders doing 6 damage a shot vs zealots all you want, it won't matter. I'll be shocked if forgg goes macro build both games unless he really thinks he's way better than core.(didn't work so well for him vs treme)
Biggest factor will be core's nerves and playstyle not how forgg plays imo.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37030 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:04 DrunkenTemplar wrote:Awesome work seeker and Odoakar, needs more bulgogi though
NO! GOD NO!! NO MORE BULGOGI!!! T-T
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Is it certain they're sending 8 matches? Seems the koreans (playxp) believe it will only be 4:
Sen vs True
July vs Jjun
Idra vs Avenge
Huk vs Bumblebee
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On January 31 2012 12:21 m0ck wrote:
Is it certain they're sending 8 matches? Seems the koreans (playxp) believe it will only be 4:
Sen vs True
July vs Jjun
Idra vs Avenge
Huk vs Bumblebee
Schedule on gomsite lists 8 matches and tomorrow is code s.
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On January 31 2012 12:21 m0ck wrote:
Is it certain they're sending 8 matches? Seems the koreans (playxp) believe it will only be 4:
Sen vs True
July vs Jjun
Idra vs Avenge
Huk vs Bumblebee
Think that might only be for stream 1
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idra/clide banner is awesome
Go ForGG and foreigners >.<
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Oh man, nearly had a heart attack there. Clidra is scary.
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United States15275 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:13 Nibbler89 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 31 2012 11:52 Nibbler89 wrote:Poor forgg has to play vs protoss again . if he got idra would be almost a sure win with his mechanics. I wonder if he'd actually rather play losira than core considering how TvP has been going in GSL and GSTL this season. Think of it as a learning experience. He needs to get better at it anyway. Well I predict he will probably want to open with all in, either 2 rax into 1 base medivac build or some version of 1-1-1 . If he all ins at least once and it works I predict 2-1 for Fin over core. If core plays double forge macro game and fin plays macro game I predict 2-0 or 2-1 for core , with the one loss being where core either does a pointless attack that doesn't work(like moving out at 150 supply with 3 collosus and 2-2 when Terran is finishing 2-1) or takes his third too early along with tech and gets peeled apart by drops(aka almost every pvt before this season ~_~)) . Forgg has amazing mechanics and it shows in TvZ and TvT but it matters less when you play vs a protoss who constantly chronoboosts upgrades. You know what all that macro,micro and fancy drops will do for you when you are down an upgrade vs armor and they have guardian shield? well.. you can micro marines doing 2 damage a shot and marauders doing 6 damage a shot vs zealots all you want, it won't matter. I'll be shocked if forgg goes macro build both games unless he really thinks he's way better than core.(didn't work so well for him vs treme) Biggest factor will be core's nerves and playstyle not how forgg plays imo.
ForGG's main problem is that he doesn't know how to engage in TvP at all. His game vs Extreme was painful to watch.
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On January 31 2012 12:19 Seeker wrote:Instead of Big Ass annoying Team Icons, I put tiny ones next to each player. What do you guys think? 
Dude those are sick! Any chance they can be added to signatures like the BW ones?
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Oh God tonight's lineup is so so so sick..
Foreigners fighting!
Oh and zergies after that.
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On January 31 2012 12:33 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 12:13 Nibbler89 wrote:On January 31 2012 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 31 2012 11:52 Nibbler89 wrote:Poor forgg has to play vs protoss again . if he got idra would be almost a sure win with his mechanics. I wonder if he'd actually rather play losira than core considering how TvP has been going in GSL and GSTL this season. Think of it as a learning experience. He needs to get better at it anyway. Well I predict he will probably want to open with all in, either 2 rax into 1 base medivac build or some version of 1-1-1 . If he all ins at least once and it works I predict 2-1 for Fin over core. If core plays double forge macro game and fin plays macro game I predict 2-0 or 2-1 for core , with the one loss being where core either does a pointless attack that doesn't work(like moving out at 150 supply with 3 collosus and 2-2 when Terran is finishing 2-1) or takes his third too early along with tech and gets peeled apart by drops(aka almost every pvt before this season ~_~)) . Forgg has amazing mechanics and it shows in TvZ and TvT but it matters less when you play vs a protoss who constantly chronoboosts upgrades. You know what all that macro,micro and fancy drops will do for you when you are down an upgrade vs armor and they have guardian shield? well.. you can micro marines doing 2 damage a shot and marauders doing 6 damage a shot vs zealots all you want, it won't matter. I'll be shocked if forgg goes macro build both games unless he really thinks he's way better than core.(didn't work so well for him vs treme) Biggest factor will be core's nerves and playstyle not how forgg plays imo. ForGG's main problem is that he doesn't know how to engage in TvP at all.
Could you explain and compare how he engages in TvP improperly compared to a terran who does? any examples? Honestly curious. To me it always seemed more based on how the P engages (not getting caught out in open without a forward pylon, which still happens way too often) that determined how it went, thats why turtling favors P since its usually a more choked area while terran likes to be out on the map(treme sort of artificially made chokes by wasting storm which was weird but still worked caus of upgrades).
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37030 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:34 Baffels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 12:19 Seeker wrote:Instead of Big Ass annoying Team Icons, I put tiny ones next to each player. What do you guys think? Dude those are sick! Any chance they can be added to signatures like the BW ones?
What? What BW ones?
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On January 31 2012 12:43 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 12:34 Baffels wrote:On January 31 2012 12:19 Seeker wrote:Instead of Big Ass annoying Team Icons, I put tiny ones next to each player. What do you guys think? Dude those are sick! Any chance they can be added to signatures like the BW ones? What? What BW ones?
The ones that appear if you post in the BW section(at least thats the only place I've seen them).
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These are the players I want to win :o
Sen <vs> True
Clide <vs> Sniper
July <vs> Jjun
LosirA <vs> TheStC (Ugh, I like both T.T)
IdrA <vs> Avenge
fOrGG <vs> cOre
HuK <vs> Terious
Monster <vs> Seed
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I hope forgg does well this time, the elephant thread needs another bump this week
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37030 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:46 Baffels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 12:43 Seeker wrote:On January 31 2012 12:34 Baffels wrote:On January 31 2012 12:19 Seeker wrote:Instead of Big Ass annoying Team Icons, I put tiny ones next to each player. What do you guys think? Dude those are sick! Any chance they can be added to signatures like the BW ones? What? What BW ones? The ones that appear if you post in the BW section(at least thats the only place I've seen them).
Could you show me an example please?
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