EPTOn January 20 2012 05:22 falafelnr1 wrote:
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[NASTL] Week 1 Empire vs EG - Page 9
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falafelnr1
Sweden444 Posts
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FreedonNadd
Austria573 Posts
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Frankon
3054 Posts
Puma, Jyp, Demusllim, Idra*... A strong line up versus Empire's terrans. Lol... It's already over... And i was so hyped for EG lineup. | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On January 20 2012 13:23 Elyvilon wrote: Send him to GSL. Go on, send him. Is Naniwa Code A? Is Morrow Code A? Is Haypro/ret/ any other foreigner Code A? Huk only got into Code S on a seed - and used the old system to his advantage to stay in Code S. To say any foreigner is Code S / Code A is a null statement. Korea's a hard place to compete - people prepare properly for a competition and every game is cutthroat Also he beat Polt 3-2 a month back. Saying Kas isn't code A level seems very off to me.  | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:07 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Send him to GSL. Go on, send him. Is Naniwa Code A? Is Morrow Code A? Is Haypro/ret/ any other foreigner Code A? Huk only got into Code S on a seed - and used the old system to his advantage to stay in Code S. To say any foreigner is Code S / Code A is a null statement. Korea's a hard place to compete - people prepare properly for a competition and every game is cutthroat Just because somebody isn't in Code A doesn't mean that they're not Code A level. You can only say that if someone fails to qualify for Code A for over a year of actively trying. Based on the level of gameplay shown, there is little difference in skill between top foreign players and less accomplished Code A players. There is a lot more that goes into it, of course, but flying in a few days before a Code A match and lack of proper preparation certainly doesn't help. But to claim that they can not play on that level is simply false, because it is very much obvious that they can. | ||
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artrea
Latvia3560 Posts
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Neelia
Germany599 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:07 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Send him to GSL. Go on, send him. Is Naniwa Code A? Is Morrow Code A? Is Haypro/ret/ any other foreigner Code A? Huk only got into Code S on a seed - and used the old system to his advantage to stay in Code S. To say any foreigner is Code S / Code A is a null statement. Korea's a hard place to compete - people prepare properly for a competition and every game is cutthroat Huk got a Code A seed and fought his way into Code S. So saying Huk was on Code S level 2 seasons ago is true. (and I'm a Huk antifan  ) | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On January 20 2012 12:49 Bagration wrote: He sure looked brilliant against MVP at WCG. Kas is good, top foreign Terran perhaps, but he not Code S level, probably not even Code A level. u realize this was probably the stupidest comment ever written? you trying to rub in that kas lost to mvp? what are you trying to imply with this?  you want a list about the people who lost to mvp? that's basically everyone he ever played against (few exceptions).bitter EG fanboys are priceless. your team got its ass kicked, deal with it. trying to belittle kas' skill is pathetic. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:07 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Send him to GSL. Go on, send him. Is Naniwa Code A? Is Morrow Code A? Is Haypro/ret/ any other foreigner Code A? Huk only got into Code S on a seed - and used the old system to his advantage to stay in Code S. To say any foreigner is Code S / Code A is a null statement. Korea's a hard place to compete - people prepare properly for a competition and every game is cutthroat Implying that Kas isn't better than Morrow, Ret and Haypro. Okay. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On January 20 2012 22:26 msjakofsky wrote: u realize this was probably the stupidest comment ever written? you trying to rub in that kas lost to mvp? what are you trying to imply with this? you want a list about the people who lost to mvp? that's basically everyone he ever played against (few exceptions).bitter EG fanboys are priceless. your team got its ass kicked, deal with it. trying to belittle kas' skill is pathetic. Calm down dude, he was just pointing out that kas can beat anybody is a dumb statement | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On January 20 2012 21:42 Neelia wrote: Huk got a Code A seed and fought his way into Code S. So saying Huk was on Code S level 2 seasons ago is true. (and I'm a Huk antifan )He rode the easiest matches possible after his free Code A spot and was promptly knocked back into Code A. No foreigner is Code A level. GSL is so much more skilled now than it was 1 year ago. | ||
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KinQuh
Finland810 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On January 20 2012 23:05 xrapture wrote: He rode the easiest matches possible after his free Code A spot and was promptly knocked back into Code A. No foreigner is Code A level. GSL is so much more skilled now than it was 1 year ago. So Kas has beaten MKP and Zenio at offline tournaments and has never lost to a korean, who is not MVP. But he still isn´t What does he have to do, to make you believe, he is? His games vs Zenio (Code-S) looked as one-sided as the games from MC against Ciara at TSL3. Naniwa also has beaten guys like Nestea, MVp, DRG, MC. He should be CodeS or atleast Code-A-level as well, it just seems, that he has a mental blockade at GSL. | ||
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JamSam
United Kingdom50 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45278 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On January 20 2012 22:36 1Eris1 wrote: Calm down dude, he was just pointing out that kas can beat anybody is a dumb statement but he can oO hes the best foreign terran without any doubt (whoever says differently simply didnt follow sc2 in europe for a year), yes, he can take out anyone, although his chances vs code S players are obviously not high - just as for any other foreigner. | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
Kas absolutely destroyed zenio at kiev maybe he wouldnt do so in the GSL studio, but still he is at least on zenios level if not above and as far as my information goes zenio is code S level | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On January 20 2012 22:26 msjakofsky wrote: u realize this was probably the stupidest comment ever written? you trying to rub in that kas lost to mvp? what are you trying to imply with this? you want a list about the people who lost to mvp? that's basically everyone he ever played against (few exceptions).bitter EG fanboys are priceless. your team got its ass kicked, deal with it. trying to belittle kas' skill is pathetic. Context, my friend, context. If I had just dropped this statement out of nowhere, it would have been a stupid immature thing to say. But I made this comment in response to someone saying that kas can beat anybody in the world. I just decided to give a counter example to that claim, which I felt was false. Don't get me wrong, I believe that kas is a top foreign Terran, but not a MVP MMA level terran (yet). I also felt that empire's win was well won. This has nothing to do with supporting eg or empire, it is about responding to someone overhyping kas. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45278 Posts
On January 21 2012 00:38 KalWarkov wrote: but he can oO hes the best foreign terran without any doubt (whoever says differently simply didnt follow sc2 in europe for a year), yes, he can take out anyone, although his chances vs code S players are obviously not high - just as for any other foreigner. It's the sweeping generalizations and arrogance that make statements like these so ridiculous. Is Kas really good? Yes. Is he one of the best Terran foreigners? Absolutely. Is he hands down, 100%, without a doubt, can be proven, the absolute best Terran foreigner and anyone who thinks otherwise is batshit crazy? Well, Thorzain and Jinro and DeMuslim and qxc and Fenix and a whole shitload of other Terran players are pretty damn good too. And we could argue back and forth over who's currently the best, who has more achievements (and which ones are more noteworthy), who has been doing better for longer, and plenty of other things. But it's just plain ignorant to claim that a single Terran foreigner stands out far-and-away from the rest of the pack (to the point of ridicule), in the same way we can point to MVP's achievements and say that he's clearly the #1 player in SC2 history at the moment. | ||
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