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fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
January 20 2012 20:19 GMT
#201
that last game was just brutal
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
January 20 2012 20:20 GMT
#202
GW Empire! I am glad You are showing what You are capable of.
Pathetic Greta hater.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
January 20 2012 20:22 GMT
#203
@NASL fyi Tal'Darim (Kas vs Machine) is not in your map pool.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
cyruss
Profile Joined July 2011
6 Posts
January 20 2012 20:24 GMT
#204
Kas is a beast, wp Empire!
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 21 2012 05:59 GMT
#205
On January 21 2012 01:22 ViRii wrote:
Why not All-Kill format? It's so much more fun to watch.

I'm really sad that EG didn't bring Incontrol, Huk or Idra.


Proleague format always makes it seem more team oriented. Having one godlike player isn't nearly as helpful as having three strong players. A deeper line-up is better then a single good player. It's a nice change from the all-kill format.

On January 21 2012 03:10 SC2NeCro wrote:
Kas isn't very good. He's decent. Him beating Machine proves nothing.

I disagree with all the people saying that Kas is the "best foreign Terran" as I think that's a bit too ambiguous to really state, but at the very least he's certainly one of the best. But that statement is ridiculous. How can you honestly believe that he isn't good?
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 21 2012 06:03 GMT
#206
On January 21 2012 03:10 SC2NeCro wrote:
Kas isn't very good. He's decent. Him beating Machine proves nothing.


Decent? You do know he has been wrecking the EU ladder and EU tournaments for the past months right? Beside that he got 3rd at WCG where he stompede MKP 2-0 now he just got first in his group at IEM where he stompede Zenio a code S player.

Decent you say? hmm ok
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
January 21 2012 06:05 GMT
#207
YEAH EMPIRE :D
Dear Sixsmith...
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 06:08:05
January 21 2012 06:05 GMT
#208
On January 21 2012 03:59 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 03:41 msjakofsky wrote:
On January 21 2012 03:28 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 21 2012 03:20 msjakofsky wrote:
On January 21 2012 03:12 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 21 2012 01:06 msjakofsky wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:36 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:26 msjakofsky wrote:
On January 20 2012 12:49 Bagration wrote:
On January 20 2012 12:41 TypeOne wrote:
When kas plays his best lol he can beat anyone seems you know nothing how good EU players are )


He sure looked brilliant against MVP at WCG. Kas is good, top foreign Terran perhaps, but he not Code S level, probably not even Code A level.




u realize this was probably the stupidest comment ever written? you trying to rub in that kas lost to mvp? what are you trying to imply with this? you want a list about the people who lost to mvp? that's basically everyone he ever played against (few exceptions).

bitter EG fanboys are priceless. your team got its ass kicked, deal with it. trying to belittle kas' skill is pathetic.

Calm down dude, he was just pointing out that kas can beat anybody is a dumb statement


so one bo3 proves that kas can't beat anybody? i guess then every player who ever played a bo3 against anyone and didn't win proves that they can't win against that player. i'm calm but this was simply a very dumb statement. noone was saying kas is top korean level but he's proven that he can consistently take games off code S players in tvt (he took 3 games off ganzi, beat mkp 2-0, he almost beat ryung a while ago, it was really close).

not to mention that it would have been logical if he mentions a lower tier player to support his argument. if you lose to a lower league player that's showing something. if you lose to the best player in the world that's not really something to be ashamed of. MVP would've 2-0'd everyone in team EG with one hand tied behind his back.

i'm not even fan of any player. but making excuses/trying to belittle the winner's skill/etc hurts my eyes, and somehow EG fans do this more often than others.

If I can't use the series against MVP you can't use the one vs mkp, see how that works? Fact remains kas is one of the top foreigners, but nearly all the foreigners have flopped out of the gsl, so we can't really say what kas will do in Korea until he actually goes there



i wouldn't argue with your last statement- however you didn't really get what i'm saying it seems. my point is that losing to a great korean player is no shame. MVP is the best of the best. but it wouldn't even be a shame to lose to MKP, since he is really good too, top5 korean terran arguably.

so after this, what happens if kas beats MKP, if losing to him is no shame? that's right, it's an awesome performance. all i wanted to say that Kas lost to the undisputed best player in the world in his best mathup which is no shame, and he beat MKP which is cool. he's proven that he can play up to the level of korean terrans in tvt. MVP is MVP, i don't think any foreigner would beat him in a bo3.

so i don't really get how you derived "if losing to MVP doesn't matter than winning over MKP doesn't matter either". that's like putting an equation mark between Kas' last three series vs koreans where he beat 2 out of 3 and idra's last three where he lost to all three of them, and i no way was trying to say anything like that.

Ahh you misunderstand. I was originally responding to a guy who claimed kas could bet anybody in the world which is why I talked about the MVP series. And my point with mkp is just because kas beat him once, says only that kas is capable of competing with Koreans, not that he is necessarily better/ as good as them. Sorry it's hard to articulate when typing from a phone


hmm yea right i understood that guy as "kas can take games off anyone" which i feel is true, but ofc he couldn't beat everyone consistently. agree with everything

only thing i'd like to add that while i don't consider myself a fan i like kas ever since he destroyed Nada in tsl3 (lag or no lag), and i feel satisfied when he shows his skills by beating korean players, and i hate it when someone tries to belittle those achievements, cuz we're still in a state of skill levels where in most foreigner tourneys the invited koreans wins, so i feel like our "heroes" like gatored, stephano, kas etc don't really get the recognition they need.

Hmm I agree with you except that you listed Stephano under unappreciated Players. Literally like a good fifteen percent of TL thinks the kid is the best player in the world.
Not just best foreigner but best in the world


No we dont 1Eris1 like allways you just spouting crap. All that Stephano hate must be painfull for you buddy. May I suggest a cookie an a hug?
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
January 21 2012 06:09 GMT
#209
YES, WP EMPIRE!
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 18:09:54
January 21 2012 18:08 GMT
#210
On January 21 2012 03:10 SC2NeCro wrote:
Kas isn't very good. He's decent. Him beating Machine proves nothing.


lol
kas is ez best terran in EU which means that he's also best foreign terran that means hes really good

i suggest looking at tlpd and you'll see: WOW he's 1st.... what could that possibly mean?


WP Empire WP

even with the koreans in there...
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