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On January 12 2012 19:37 Hypemeup wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 19:36 Seraphone wrote:On January 12 2012 19:30 Dodgin wrote:On January 12 2012 19:30 Seraphone wrote:On January 12 2012 19:29 bigbeau wrote:On January 12 2012 19:27 Chrian wrote:
I can't actually believe that InCa's going to win another game with DTs. Is everyone who plays him seriously taking stupid pills, what the hell. It's not like he just DT rushed...He plays extremely intelligent. He is exact opposite of intelligent. Haters gonna hate. Intelligent is Nestea. Nestea plays safe, he scouts what his opponent is doing and reacts appropriately and hits timings that are good based on his opponents build. Inca doesn't scout, he doesn't care what his opponent is doing. He just takes massive risks, be it blind DT rush, three nexus's of one gate, DT/Collosus tech off the back of 1 sentry and 5 stalkers. There is no intelligence in that at all. Yeah, and people say Inca prepared to play bomber by taking huge risks instead of the usual safe style bomber forces are wrong, Inca just plays like that because flipping coins works very well in this game right now.
Well unfortunately a lot of lower league players who don't understand the game think Inca just outplayed someone and is some genius Protoss now.
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
TDA is out of the map pool right?
We may see a non-4gate game
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I can't load the Gomtv.net page
is there another way to open the stream?
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Wowww so many Inca haters... really
I haven't really studied Bomber a lot, but I can say that every TvP I've seen from him, he's played a really predictable style where he goes 3 CC very early. Inca game 1 just used this to his advantage and got 3 ultra fast nexus which basically snowballed into a simple victory.
Game 2 was also very nice.. notice how he doesn't try to win the games with DT tech alone, he transitions out of it, we saw the same last year with Inca's PvTs,,, he always has a follow up.
So stop hating!! Inca January, February, March and April code S champion
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On January 12 2012 19:35 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 19:32 bbQ4Aiur wrote:On January 12 2012 19:30 Seraphone wrote:On January 12 2012 19:29 bigbeau wrote:On January 12 2012 19:27 Chrian wrote:
I can't actually believe that InCa's going to win another game with DTs. Is everyone who plays him seriously taking stupid pills, what the hell. It's not like he just DT rushed...He plays extremely intelligent. He is exact opposite of intelligent. tbh, Inca out-macroed bomber in both of those games, bomber should really blame himself for not being aggressive when he had the advantage. So i dont know why people hate Inca even when he play macro game and win. What? Inca did a "I hope he doesn't scout my 3rd off of one Gate!!" build followed by "I hope he doesn't have detection!!" in game two. Inca won the game when the coin happened to land on the side he guessed twice in a row.
First game was probably more like "I know Bomber has really good TvP so I will take a risk instead of trying to play him straight up", and second game was a pretty standard move if you're up one game in a Bo3. Heaps of players use a risky strategy in that situation, and it's extremely sensible since it's basically an opportunity to get a free win with no downside.
Besides, let's not look past the fact that Bomber didn't even scout that 3rd expo in game one despite there being a lengthy amount of time where an scv could have got in unscathed.
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On January 12 2012 19:38 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 19:38 tdt wrote:
inca's gonna 2-0 when many thought 0-2...sound familiar...ganzi..supernova... No one thought Ganzi was going to 0-2. He's waaaaay better than Boxer/Sen.
okay I forgot about sen but many picked him not getting out of group.
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On January 12 2012 19:38 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 19:35 FuzzyJAM wrote:On January 12 2012 19:32 bbQ4Aiur wrote:On January 12 2012 19:30 Seraphone wrote:On January 12 2012 19:29 bigbeau wrote:On January 12 2012 19:27 Chrian wrote:
I can't actually believe that InCa's going to win another game with DTs. Is everyone who plays him seriously taking stupid pills, what the hell. It's not like he just DT rushed...He plays extremely intelligent. He is exact opposite of intelligent. tbh, Inca out-macroed bomber in both of those games, bomber should really blame himself for not being aggressive when he had the advantage. So i dont know why people hate Inca even when he play macro game and win. What? Inca did a "I hope he doesn't scout my 3rd off of one Gate!!" build followed by "I hope he doesn't have detection!!" in game two. Inca won the game when the coin happened to land on the side he guessed twice in a row. And Bomber did the whole "Why scout when I can just sit in my base lolz. Wait what is going on." You can't blame a player for taking risks when it's working. That's how you get an advantage, you take a risk that pays off.
Yeah, Bomber fucked up game one.
Doesn't change the fact that neither games were "macro games" and that Inca didn't play super intelligently, he simply hoped his opponent messed up.
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On January 12 2012 19:35 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 19:32 bbQ4Aiur wrote:On January 12 2012 19:30 Seraphone wrote:On January 12 2012 19:29 bigbeau wrote:On January 12 2012 19:27 Chrian wrote:
I can't actually believe that InCa's going to win another game with DTs. Is everyone who plays him seriously taking stupid pills, what the hell. It's not like he just DT rushed...He plays extremely intelligent. He is exact opposite of intelligent. tbh, Inca out-macroed bomber in both of those games, bomber should really blame himself for not being aggressive when he had the advantage. So i dont know why people hate Inca even when he play macro game and win. What? Inca did a "I hope he doesn't scout my 3rd off of one Gate!!" build followed by "I hope he doesn't have detection!!" in game two. Inca won the game when the coin happened to land on the side he guessed twice in a row.
lmao, so if inca did a 1 base 5bases all-in with sentries and break bomber's 1rack expo into 3racks, u would be happier?
and when terran decided to go cloak, dont they all be thinking" I hope my opponent dont have detection?" its the same for toss.
Haters gonna hate.
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Artosis always talks about Phoenix builds, but I never see them as often
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Since I'll never ever bet on inca I guess my LB are screwed till players play DTproof every freaking game!
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On January 12 2012 19:36 poorcloud wrote:His mindgames man, ahead of everyone. He displayed his sick mind games skills in the past when he DTed Nestea 4 games in a row. Nestea was just too behind the curve to react accordingly and did the dumb move, which somehow went against Inca. Of course all mind games are in Nestea's head, because we are all only part of his mind. 
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On January 12 2012 19:38 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 19:36 Seraphone wrote:On January 12 2012 19:30 Dodgin wrote:On January 12 2012 19:30 Seraphone wrote:On January 12 2012 19:29 bigbeau wrote:On January 12 2012 19:27 Chrian wrote:
I can't actually believe that InCa's going to win another game with DTs. Is everyone who plays him seriously taking stupid pills, what the hell. It's not like he just DT rushed...He plays extremely intelligent. He is exact opposite of intelligent. Haters gonna hate. Intelligent is Nestea. Nestea plays safe, he scouts what his opponent is doing and reacts appropriately and hits timings that are good based on his opponents build. Inca doesn't scout, he doesn't care what his opponent is doing. He just takes massive risks, be it blind DT rush, three nexus's of one gate, DT/Collosus tech off the back of 1 sentry and 5 stalkers. There is no intelligence in that at all. Nestea's intelligence is in his play, Inca's intelligence is in his preparation outside of the game. He knows he's known as a gimmicky player that likes dt's, so people are gonna play safe against him first game. He took a gigantic risk by going triple nexus, and it payed off and he made bomber look pretty bad. Bomber not wanting to have that happen again goes for a not-safe build next game, which inca is anticipating and slaps down with a weird tech build. It's gimmicky, for sure, but the risk he takes are definitely calculated, even though it's not reactive.
When you take massive risks you will either look like a genius (vs Bomber) or a massive idiot (vs Nestea). You will never win tournaments as a coin flipper but you will beat far better players than you.
Never ever interpret that as Inca playing well, no one would take these massive risks if they didn't have a chance to work. Skill is in winning with solid safe play where you can still win even if your opponent see's it.
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Wow, I do Oz's EXACT build.
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Well, that's interesting. Fast expo PvP?
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"I've been coinflipping this far might aswell continue"
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On January 12 2012 19:40 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 19:38 Fionn wrote:On January 12 2012 19:38 tdt wrote:
inca's gonna 2-0 when many thought 0-2...sound familiar...ganzi..supernova... No one thought Ganzi was going to 0-2. He's waaaaay better than Boxer/Sen. okay I forgot about sen but many picked him not getting out of group.
you in D1 2000+ people get 4/4 LB and hey many pick Boxer cuz he is Boxer
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On January 12 2012 19:40 Ketch wrote:
Artosis always talks about Phoenix builds, but I never see them as often
They are popular on ladder, but you never see them in tournaments for some reason.
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On January 12 2012 19:40 Whalecore wrote:
Wowww so many Inca haters... really
I haven't really studied Bomber a lot, but I can say that every TvP I've seen from him, he's played a really predictable style where he goes 3 CC very early. Inca game 1 just used this to his advantage and got 3 ultra fast nexus which basically snowballed into a simple victory.
Game 2 was also very nice.. notice how he doesn't try to win the games with DT tech alone, he transitions out of it, we saw the same last year with Inca's PvTs,,, he always has a follow up.
So stop hating!! Inca January, February, March and April code S champion
If anything, InCa shows us how insanely hard it is for a better player to consistently win, which is why players like MVP, MMA and NesTea are soooo impessive.
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On January 12 2012 19:40 LeLfe wrote:
Since I'll never ever bet on inca I guess my LB are screwed till players play DTproof every freaking game!
you mean like how Bomber played in Game 1?
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