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On January 09 2012 22:46 VavPK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:44 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:43 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:41 Brett wrote:On January 09 2012 22:38 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On January 09 2012 22:34 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:32 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:30 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:29 bittman wrote:
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Bad people don't get blessed. Don't be spiteful, happy people get further in life. And they get what they want.
Just ask me. 4/4 Liquibets. Yeah thank god you won liquibets, gonna get so far in life now! lol... so many retarded people in this community. Jjakji will never ever win another title. Completely overrated, he's out in ro16. you seem like you're just pissed that you had a bad day on liquibet I don't even really use the liquibet system, like ever. I just hate how so many people think jjakji is soooo amazing when it is clear he should be in Code A, and even that is me being generous. Horrible player, he won't be here next season. false, since he is already guaranteed Code A next season. Next biased argument please. False, considering I never specified where he wouldn't be, but since you are an idiot I will inform you that I meant Code S. Idiot. Bye! Enjoy the ban. Now people, stop feeding trolls. Report them if you can, otherwise ignore them. People get banned for expressing opinions? Doubtful... and why is it everyone is a "troll" when they express how they feel? Get out of here with that... really.. bad opinions, not really much evidence, whining, etc etc. TL isn't exactly a free country Well I could reverse that and say your opinion of saying my opinions are bad is a bad opinion, you should get banned too if I do?
no yours are worse sorry 
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On January 09 2012 22:46 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:45 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:42 zyzq wrote:On January 09 2012 22:40 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:39 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:38 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:34 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:32 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:30 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:29 bittman wrote:
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Bad people don't get blessed. Don't be spiteful, happy people get further in life. And they get what they want.
Just ask me. 4/4 Liquibets. Yeah thank god you won liquibets, gonna get so far in life now! lol... so many retarded people in this community. Jjakji will never ever win another title. Completely overrated, he's out in ro16. you seem like you're just pissed that you had a bad day on liquibet I don't even really use the liquibet system, like ever. I just hate how so many people think jjakji is soooo amazing when it is clear he should be in Code A, and even that is me being generous. Horrible player, he won't be here next season. you hate it when people compliment outstanding micro, macro, decision making (yes he was lucky a few times, sure i'll give you that), mechanics, scouting, etc etc? I guess MMA is a scrub and MVP is a mech-abusing noob too then. Just because people are praising jjakji doesn't mean they don't realise that there are tons of amazing terrans out there too. Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though. who is good then? MMA. AND ONLY MMA MMA, GanZi, Oz is pretty good I guess, I suppose idra has gotten a little better recently too. Uhhh, who else... hrm.. IMHappy is doing alright, and uhhh.. DRG is up there too. Happy and Ganzi> Mvp? Yeah sure...
Dude, don't argue with him, he's a SC2 intellectual )
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On January 09 2012 22:43 VavPK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:41 Brett wrote:On January 09 2012 22:38 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On January 09 2012 22:34 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:32 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:30 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:29 bittman wrote:On January 09 2012 22:26 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:23 Asha` wrote:
Jjakji so much better than Boxer, beautifully played once this game stabilised =) Jjakji is horrible and completely overrated. I woulda given anything for him to lose this and for me to see his face after he did. Why couldn't I have been blessed with that, I will never know. Bad people don't get blessed. Don't be spiteful, happy people get further in life. And they get what they want. Just ask me. 4/4 Liquibets. Yeah thank god you won liquibets, gonna get so far in life now! lol... so many retarded people in this community. Jjakji will never ever win another title. Completely overrated, he's out in ro16. you seem like you're just pissed that you had a bad day on liquibet I don't even really use the liquibet system, like ever. I just hate how so many people think jjakji is soooo amazing when it is clear he should be in Code A, and even that is me being generous. Horrible player, he won't be here next season. false, since he is already guaranteed Code A next season. Next biased argument please. False, considering I never specified where he wouldn't be, but since you are an idiot I will inform you that I meant Code S. Idiot. Bye! Enjoy the ban. Now people, stop feeding trolls. Report them if you can, otherwise ignore them. People get banned for expressing opinions? Doubtful... and why is it everyone is a "troll" when they express how they feel? Get out of here with that... really..
People get banned when they start calling other people idiots or retards for no reason at all.
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On January 09 2012 22:46 ravemir wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:42 pdd wrote:On January 09 2012 22:39 ravemir wrote:On January 09 2012 22:34 nokz88 wrote:On January 09 2012 22:31 dormer wrote:On January 09 2012 22:28 poorcloud wrote:On January 09 2012 22:27 Sc2Null wrote:On January 09 2012 22:26 Elem wrote:
9/1/2012 - The Day Everyone Fucked Up Massively. its not September? Well everyone else in the world puts the day first other than Americans. So yeah.... Actually Japan is normally year / month / day, so not everyone else in the world. The thing is everyone writes it in a way that makes sense. YYYY/MM/DD makes sense, so does DD/MM/YYYY. What does not make any sense whatsoever, is MM/DD/YYYY Again, September 1st 2012, 9/01/2012 It doesn't matter how you call it. I usually call the date in this format September 1st (etc.) but I still write my dates as 1/9/2012. Changing it is just confusing as fuck. Yes, I do it the same, but it just means you have to pay a tad more attention. It can be confusing at times, but why do you guys use miles and inches anyways?
I grew up in Malaysia and study in Australia. As far as I'm concerned every one should just move to the metric system.
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Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though.
lol, you know that just saying that is a compliment to MVP? There are only 5 GSLs in 2012 and I can name at least list 10 players in Code S who have a legitimate shot at winning (and some players who don't know yet who will improve drastically in 2012). So even winning ONE title will be huge.
Not sure how you can call someone who has won 3 GSLs, 1 MLG, 1 Blizzcon, 1 WCG (1st in WCG Kor Qualifiers as well which I think is actually harder then the actually WCG) overrated...
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On January 09 2012 22:41 Soyuz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:39 IMPrime wrote:
jjakji isn't "bad", but...
- He has a weak MU (granted, nearly every player does)
- His path to his championship was among the easiest of the champions, with the only legit players he really beat was leenock, and he even got the free win against coca. he's relatively new (at least in the GSL scene, he's been playing in weeklies for ages) and his path wasn't that easy, I meant Nestea had a way easier one (the one where he beat losira 4-0 in the finals). And the show jjakji put on in the finals is still by far the best ever match played.
Nestea is, afaik, the only champion who had an easier path to the finals. Then again nestea DID go completely undefeated that season, which even against "average" GSL players, is no easy feat.
Jjakji barely made it through ro32 and ro16, with help from the coca free ride, swept an overrated toss, squeaked by a decent toss, beat a good zerg.
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On January 09 2012 22:49 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:41 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:39 IMPrime wrote:
jjakji isn't "bad", but...
- He has a weak MU (granted, nearly every player does)
- His path to his championship was among the easiest of the champions, with the only legit players he really beat was leenock, and he even got the free win against coca. he's relatively new (at least in the GSL scene, he's been playing in weeklies for ages) and his path wasn't that easy, I meant Nestea had a way easier one (the one where he beat losira 4-0 in the finals). And the show jjakji put on in the finals is still by far the best ever match played. Nestea is, afaik, the only champion who had an easier path to the finals. Then again nestea DID go completely undefeated that season, which even against "average" GSL players, is no easy feat. Jjakji barely made it through ro32 and ro16, with help from the coca free ride, swept an overrated toss, squeaked by a decent toss, beat a good zerg.
fair enough, I *almost* forgot that nestea went through undefeated (and admittedly his games vs losira were extremely impressive, actually an improvement over the usual finals)
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On January 09 2012 22:48 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though. lol, you know that just saying that is a compliment to MVP? There are only 5 GSLs in 2012 and I can name at least list 10 players in Code S who have a legitimate shot at winning (and some players who don't know yet who will improve drastically in 2012). So even winning ONE title will be huge. Not sure how you can call someone who has won 3 GSLs, 1 MLG, 1 Blizzcon, 1 WCG (1st in WCG Kor Qualifiers as well which I think is actually harder then the actually WCG) overrated...
I was never trying to insult MVP I simply said he won't win more than 1 title this year.
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On January 09 2012 22:47 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:46 ravemir wrote:On January 09 2012 22:42 pdd wrote:On January 09 2012 22:39 ravemir wrote:On January 09 2012 22:34 nokz88 wrote:On January 09 2012 22:31 dormer wrote:On January 09 2012 22:28 poorcloud wrote:On January 09 2012 22:27 Sc2Null wrote:On January 09 2012 22:26 Elem wrote:
9/1/2012 - The Day Everyone Fucked Up Massively. its not September? Well everyone else in the world puts the day first other than Americans. So yeah.... Actually Japan is normally year / month / day, so not everyone else in the world. The thing is everyone writes it in a way that makes sense. YYYY/MM/DD makes sense, so does DD/MM/YYYY. What does not make any sense whatsoever, is MM/DD/YYYY Again, September 1st 2012, 9/01/2012 It doesn't matter how you call it. I usually call the date in this format September 1st (etc.) but I still write my dates as 1/9/2012. Changing it is just confusing as fuck. Yes, I do it the same, but it just means you have to pay a tad more attention. It can be confusing at times, but why do you guys use miles and inches anyways? I was born in Malaysia and grew up in Australia. As far as I'm concerned every one should just move to the metric system.
Someone argued this with me saying that his dates aligned better when he named things by date in Windows. Pity the year changes though. So actually the best dating method for him must be yyyy-mm-dd.
Let's do that.
And the time is also now 50:12.
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On January 09 2012 22:50 VavPK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:48 vthree wrote:Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though. lol, you know that just saying that is a compliment to MVP? There are only 5 GSLs in 2012 and I can name at least list 10 players in Code S who have a legitimate shot at winning (and some players who don't know yet who will improve drastically in 2012). So even winning ONE title will be huge. Not sure how you can call someone who has won 3 GSLs, 1 MLG, 1 Blizzcon, 1 WCG (1st in WCG Kor Qualifiers as well which I think is actually harder then the actually WCG) overrated... I was never trying to insult MVP I simply said he won't win more than 1 title this year.
well calling someone "overrated" is a bit of an insult I guess
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On January 09 2012 22:51 Soyuz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:50 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:48 vthree wrote:Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though. lol, you know that just saying that is a compliment to MVP? There are only 5 GSLs in 2012 and I can name at least list 10 players in Code S who have a legitimate shot at winning (and some players who don't know yet who will improve drastically in 2012). So even winning ONE title will be huge. Not sure how you can call someone who has won 3 GSLs, 1 MLG, 1 Blizzcon, 1 WCG (1st in WCG Kor Qualifiers as well which I think is actually harder then the actually WCG) overrated... I was never trying to insult MVP I simply said he won't win more than 1 title this year. well calling someone "overrated" is a bit of an insult I guess
That depends on how well they're rated.
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On January 09 2012 22:49 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:41 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:39 IMPrime wrote:
jjakji isn't "bad", but...
- He has a weak MU (granted, nearly every player does)
- His path to his championship was among the easiest of the champions, with the only legit players he really beat was leenock, and he even got the free win against coca. he's relatively new (at least in the GSL scene, he's been playing in weeklies for ages) and his path wasn't that easy, I meant Nestea had a way easier one (the one where he beat losira 4-0 in the finals). And the show jjakji put on in the finals is still by far the best ever match played. Nestea is, afaik, the only champion who had an easier path to the finals. Then again nestea DID go completely undefeated that season, which even against "average" GSL players, is no easy feat. Jjakji barely made it through ro32 and ro16, with help from the coca free ride, swept an overrated toss, squeaked by a decent toss, beat a good zerg.
To be fair, MC's March run was really easy too, but because July made it a 4-1 finals people forget that MC made the entire tournament look one sided.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_2nd_Generation_Intel®_Core™_Global_StarCraft_II_League_March/Code_S
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On January 09 2012 22:51 Soyuz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:50 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:48 vthree wrote:Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though. lol, you know that just saying that is a compliment to MVP? There are only 5 GSLs in 2012 and I can name at least list 10 players in Code S who have a legitimate shot at winning (and some players who don't know yet who will improve drastically in 2012). So even winning ONE title will be huge. Not sure how you can call someone who has won 3 GSLs, 1 MLG, 1 Blizzcon, 1 WCG (1st in WCG Kor Qualifiers as well which I think is actually harder then the actually WCG) overrated... I was never trying to insult MVP I simply said he won't win more than 1 title this year. well calling someone "overrated" is a bit of an insult I guess
Not really... I just don't feel he is as good as everyone hypes him up to be. I would love to be a big fan of MVP but when all I hear is how unbeatable and genius he is from every caster / TL member when it is clear he is far from that, it just makes it very hard to relate to being a big fan... thus he is overrated...
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On January 09 2012 22:53 VavPK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:51 Soyuz wrote:On January 09 2012 22:50 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:48 vthree wrote:Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though. lol, you know that just saying that is a compliment to MVP? There are only 5 GSLs in 2012 and I can name at least list 10 players in Code S who have a legitimate shot at winning (and some players who don't know yet who will improve drastically in 2012). So even winning ONE title will be huge. Not sure how you can call someone who has won 3 GSLs, 1 MLG, 1 Blizzcon, 1 WCG (1st in WCG Kor Qualifiers as well which I think is actually harder then the actually WCG) overrated... I was never trying to insult MVP I simply said he won't win more than 1 title this year. well calling someone "overrated" is a bit of an insult I guess Not really... I just don't feel he is as good as everyone hypes him up to be. I would love to be a big fan of MVP but when all I hear is how unbeatable and genius he is from every caster / TL member when it is clear he is far from that, it just makes it very hard to relate to being a big fan... thus he is overrated...
You would hate Flash.
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but he beat so many good toss in a time when toss was tearing shit up because of the recent patch. i think his path was not the hardest but def. not the easiest. His tvt is terrible tho he gotta work on it.
puzzle is overrated, or at least in a serious slump. He hasn't really done anything since winning his code A back in liek... august or something.
Can you name someone that had an easier path to the championship other than nestea (who was completely undefeated in that season)? Maybe one of the really early champions had an easier path, idk.
his code a run was pretty good I guess, although I heard he was crushed by curious. He beat mma in code s though (tlpd).
he beat mma because tvp is mma's worst mu.
not convinced
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On January 09 2012 22:50 VavPK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:48 vthree wrote:Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though. lol, you know that just saying that is a compliment to MVP? There are only 5 GSLs in 2012 and I can name at least list 10 players in Code S who have a legitimate shot at winning (and some players who don't know yet who will improve drastically in 2012). So even winning ONE title will be huge. Not sure how you can call someone who has won 3 GSLs, 1 MLG, 1 Blizzcon, 1 WCG (1st in WCG Kor Qualifiers as well which I think is actually harder then the actually WCG) overrated... I was never trying to insult MVP I simply said he won't win more than 1 title this year.
You do realize people were calling Mvp overrated when he dropped to Code A? "Nah, in 6 months we won't even hear about him, it's the new blood you should watch out for." And look what happened. Besides winning even 1 GSL is going to be a pretty impressive feat considering the tournaments will be longer this year.
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Vavpk - don't like what he likes? You are not right! bahaha oh well wish I could have caught more of the games mainly sen's but had to go out mid way after his first set 
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On January 09 2012 22:56 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +but he beat so many good toss in a time when toss was tearing shit up because of the recent patch. i think his path was not the hardest but def. not the easiest. His tvt is terrible tho he gotta work on it. puzzle is overrated, or at least in a serious slump. He hasn't really done anything since winning his code A back in liek... august or something.
Serious slump since winning Code A in August...
...yet made 1/4 finals of last GSL Code S...
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On January 09 2012 22:56 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +but he beat so many good toss in a time when toss was tearing shit up because of the recent patch. i think his path was not the hardest but def. not the easiest. His tvt is terrible tho he gotta work on it. puzzle is overrated, or at least in a serious slump. He hasn't really done anything since winning his code A back in liek... august or something. Can you name someone that had an easier path to the championship other than nestea (who was completely undefeated in that season)? Maybe one of the really early champions had an easier path, idk. Show nested quote +his code a run was pretty good I guess, although I heard he was crushed by curious. He beat mma in code s though (tlpd). he beat mma because tvp is mma's worst mu. not convinced
doesn't make it bad, mma's tvp is still pretty amazing. I guess it's really down to the mu itself, tvz and tvt are the most solid so far so it's clear-cut on whether someone's a god at the mu. tvp, not so much.
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On January 09 2012 22:56 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 22:50 VavPK wrote:On January 09 2012 22:48 vthree wrote:Who said anything about mech abuse? But yes you are half right, MVP is also overrated and I think he MIGHT win 1 title in 2012, no more than that though. lol, you know that just saying that is a compliment to MVP? There are only 5 GSLs in 2012 and I can name at least list 10 players in Code S who have a legitimate shot at winning (and some players who don't know yet who will improve drastically in 2012). So even winning ONE title will be huge. Not sure how you can call someone who has won 3 GSLs, 1 MLG, 1 Blizzcon, 1 WCG (1st in WCG Kor Qualifiers as well which I think is actually harder then the actually WCG) overrated... I was never trying to insult MVP I simply said he won't win more than 1 title this year. You do realize people were calling Mvp overrated when he dropped to Code A? "Nah, in 6 months we won't even hear about him, it's the new blood you should watch out for." And look what happened. Besides winning even 1 GSL is going to be a pretty impressive feat considering the tournaments will be longer this year.
I have been watching GSL since it started so yes I am aware of what people said, it doesn't mean much. I am not trying to say him winning 1 title this year isn't a feat, I do not know why you guys keep trying to make the point that I am somehow downtalking him by saying that, I just don't think he is the god people make him out to be and this year will make that a little more clear.
On January 09 2012 22:56 Cite wrote:Vavpk - don't like what he likes? You are not right! bahaha oh well wish I could have caught more of the games mainly sen's but had to go out mid way after his first set
You clearrlyyyyyy didn't read all of my posts in this thread.
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