If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. And don't start the USA USA USA!!! stuff.
I really hate how often all the arguments against hilarious things in eSports are "imagine what people will think! and koreans would never blah blah!!"
1. If everyone currently watching eSports enjoys it, stop worrying about what a few randoms would think. SC2/ESPORTS (it should really be called what it is -- sc2. esports outside of sc2 is pretty pitiful) is growing based on stream count #s and advertisers seeing the potential/huge growth
2. please realize ESPORTS is boring as fuck when it completely mimics korean style. the rest of the world wants personality. if you like korean style, keep in mind it's nothing but no in-game-chat, canned responses in EVERY interview ("i hope to give good games" / "i will practice more for the next tourney"). that's what you want?
3. yes, drunkenness can get to be a bit too much. has it yet? not from what i've seen. HSC is not your generic tourney, and to many (like me) that's why we love it. So.Much.Personality. That's what makes it gold.
4. ", but I have no interest in seeing nerds drunk. "
great. then don't watch? do you know HOW saturated sc2 streaming is? fucking insanely saturated: you can watch a pro any time (and not only that, but have a selection of top NA/Euro/Kor at any given time because they all want stream revenue). i fucking was "that nerd kid" in high school and even i'm not so sheltered as to STILL get butthurt when i see young people drinking and having fun. i can't drink without getting bad tinnitus (ear ringing) any more, so if anyone would have some harsh bias against alcohol it would be me, but it DOESN'T affect the quality of the cast in any significant way. maybe during the hour i just fell asleep it got bad, but 1 hour out of 3 days of HSC is fine.
5. stop creating drama at every event based off of "hypothetical" people who don't exist in high numbers. this is the biggest problem TL/sc reddit have
Man some of you people need to chill out. the novelty of HOMESTORY is the chilled out environment. It's a very fun tournament and I hope they don't change this dimension of the tournament, ever.
On January 08 2012 11:43 Vei wrote: 2. please realize ESPORTS is boring as fuck when it completely mimics korean style. the rest of the world wants personality. if you like korean style, keep in mind it's nothing but no in-game-chat, canned responses in EVERY interview ("i hope to give good games" / "i will practice more for the next tourney"). that's what you want?
I generally agree with what you said, but this part really annoyed me.
I'm going to nitpick here and ask, have you ever read Nada's blog post when his dad died? Or Inca's interview and talk about how badly his parents hated him being a progamer? Or even the story of fruitdealer in season 1? It's ridiculous to imply they don't have personality when you said the world wants personality.
Wait... and I just remembered, you're that guy that insulted nal_ra way back in Old boy when I was a Lurker and you didn't know anything about how the korean society works. o-O
MKP/MC greatest casting duo ever! Couldn't stop laughing during their casts. Hopefully, it's an mkp vs mc finals with mkp winning and doing the kong dance!
On January 08 2012 11:43 Vei wrote: 2. please realize ESPORTS is boring as fuck when it completely mimics korean style. the rest of the world wants personality. if you like korean style, keep in mind it's nothing but no in-game-chat, canned responses in EVERY interview ("i hope to give good games" / "i will practice more for the next tourney"). that's what you want?
I generally agree with what you said, but this part really annoyed me.
I'm going to nitpick here and ask, have you ever read Nada's blog post when his dad died? Or Inca's interview and talk about how badly his parents hated him being a progamer? Or even the story of fruitdealer in season 1? It's ridiculous to imply they don't have personality when you said the world wants personality.
Wait... and I just remembered, you're that guy that insulted nal_ra way back in Old boy when I was a Lurker and you didn't know anything about how the korean society works. o-O
holy shit you have an insane memory
i got banned for that although i still mostly stand by what i said (which was that if you know you have a guaranteed military transfer in x months you shouldn't sign up for a tv show that lasts x + 3 months)
I will admit I'm basing what I said off of korean sc2 that I've observed for the past 1.5~ (?) years -- every GSL interview was nothing new learned with frustratingly generic responses (that unfortunately the players seemed pressured into giving by such an honor-bound society, until they achieve literally rank1 "by far" levels-of-greatness which allows them, generally, to be more human/open about their emotions without fear of being chastised.
Some notable exceptions: - Fruitdealer admitting to alcoholism in an interview post GSL s1 win. Definitely very eye-opening, although imo it could've been a bigger "deal" than it was, that was also at SC2's birth as an ESPORT so you can't expect everything to get covered as much as it 'deserved' to.
- The mini-bios that Gom started putting into GSL grand finals on players like MKP and Losira. Fantastic stuff.
However, I think you would be hard-pressed to argue that those aren't by FAR the exception and not the norm. GSL is amazing to foreigners because of 1) the competition; 2) the casters when its Tastosis. The players themselves have little impact/influence/airtime/personality, outside of victory ceremonies and faces of anguish during crushing defeats. The Korean style is very personality-subduing for anyone who doesn't achieve TOP victory. The pressures of that culture, imo, are such that humility is paramount until you have proven yourself to be among the nadas/flashes/boxers. I do not know the inca example you are speaking of, but that sounds both very nice yet also very uncharacteristic.
EPT
That was their first cast on day 1 ^^
although i still mostly stand by what i said (which was that if you know you have a guaranteed military transfer in x months you shouldn't sign up for a tv show that lasts x + 3 months)
