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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. And don't start the USA USA USA!!! stuff.

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Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 08:24:03
January 08 2012 08:23 GMT
#8861
On January 08 2012 14:39 knyttym wrote:
this yes?
http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304784374
Gotta just search the channel esltv_taketv and it pops up

thx, this is great. All Goody games that I missed. ^^

TakeTV 2 doesn't have any videos. T.T Or did someone else find the Nerchio games?
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
January 08 2012 08:40 GMT
#8862
I was waiting for Nerchio games and then fall asleep at some TvT ;( Im looking for Nerchio vs Hero games does someone know where can I find the vods?
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 08 2012 08:45 GMT
#8863
On January 08 2012 17:40 Taktik wrote:
I was waiting for Nerchio games and then fall asleep at some TvT ;( Im looking for Nerchio vs Hero games does someone know where can I find the vods?


If you look at the post directly above yours, theres a link provided with the vods. I don't know when the nerchio vs. hero games are, you'll have to search through the vods.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 08:54:51
January 08 2012 08:48 GMT
#8864
oh ok I searched all the "main stage" vod it looks like Hero-Nerchio was played on the other stream but other vods are not uploaded yet. Will check in the evening. And wow, Im a bit dissapointed about how many games of Nerchio were played on main stream (only one) where we saw games like KawaiiRice vs. HayprO (not to offend anb). But I will forgive that the HSCIV is still the best tournament I watched so far :D
TheRealViceroy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States16 Posts
January 08 2012 08:48 GMT
#8865
mvp and mc were the most entertaining casters i have ever seen.
Artosis Pylon, if its good enough for a pro its good enough for me!
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 08 2012 08:58 GMT
#8866
On January 08 2012 17:48 TheRealViceroy wrote:
mvp and mc were the most entertaining casters i have ever seen.


Pretty sure you mean MKP
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
January 08 2012 09:27 GMT
#8867
On January 08 2012 17:48 TheRealViceroy wrote:
mvp and mc were the most entertaining casters i have ever seen.

dunno. I was a bit annoyed, when they casted Goody. He was playing his ass off and they were saying how bad he played. I don't enjoy this arrogance. He was not building all the structures in time, yes. But overall, his play was great. When he plays, you see best how it matters to have a priority of focus.
DaNom
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland144 Posts
January 08 2012 09:34 GMT
#8868
On January 08 2012 18:27 Ludwigvan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 17:48 TheRealViceroy wrote:
mvp and mc were the most entertaining casters i have ever seen.

dunno. I was a bit annoyed, when they casted Goody. He was playing his ass off and they were saying how bad he played. I don't enjoy this arrogance. He was not building all the structures in time, yes. But overall, his play was great. When he plays, you see best how it matters to have a priority of focus.

I would agree if they were worse than Goody, but in fact they're much better than him, so in my opinion, they had right to criticism.

BTW. Can't wait for games today!
DaNom.211 BNet EU
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
January 08 2012 09:41 GMT
#8869
On January 08 2012 18:34 DaNom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 18:27 Ludwigvan wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:48 TheRealViceroy wrote:
mvp and mc were the most entertaining casters i have ever seen.

dunno. I was a bit annoyed, when they casted Goody. He was playing his ass off and they were saying how bad he played. I don't enjoy this arrogance. He was not building all the structures in time, yes. But overall, his play was great. When he plays, you see best how it matters to have a priority of focus.

I would agree if they were worse than Goody, but in fact they're much better than him, so in my opinion, they had right to criticism.

BTW. Can't wait for games today!

That is not a good argument. A football coach should in your opinion not have the right to criticize a player, because the player plays better. On the other hand, if Raoul commentates Austria vs Jamaica, he is allowed to say that they are bad. I don't agree at all with this logic. Everyone has the same right to criticize. It is about the argument, not about your skill. Also, saying that something is bad repeatedly is not constructive criticism. Mentioning it once is enough. Everybody knows how slow Goodys multitasking can be sometimes.
fourColo
Profile Joined June 2011
United States363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 09:54:25
January 08 2012 09:51 GMT
#8870
Goody still probably would have lost game 3 but his push would have been extremely stronger had he not been supply blocked so much.

In game 2 he should have won way earlier, protoss was doing a cheesey blink stalker allin and not only was it ineffective but he also made some serious micro mistakes. If he wasn't getting supply blocked or sitting with 100 oc energy he could have a-moved in and won right after defending the blink harass.

Still love Goody, but these were like game changing mistakes you don't often see from top players.
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
January 08 2012 09:58 GMT
#8871
On January 08 2012 18:51 fourColo wrote:
Goody still probably would have lost game 3 but his push would have been extremely stronger had he not been supply blocked so much.

In game 2 he should have won way earlier, protoss was doing a cheesey blink stalker allin and not only was it ineffective but he also made some serious micro mistakes. If he wasn't getting supply blocked or sitting with 100 oc energy he could have a-moved in and won right after defending the blink harass.

Still love Goody, but these were like game changing mistakes you don't often see from top players.


Goody would be so sick if he had like near-flawless mechanics
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
January 08 2012 10:11 GMT
#8872
anyone has stream2 vods?
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
Oyman_tr
Profile Joined July 2010
Turkey104 Posts
January 08 2012 10:20 GMT
#8873
day 3 vods pls..
Peior est bello timor ipse belli
breadcat
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany45 Posts
January 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#8874
I really enjoyed day 3. The ending was kinda funny too.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 10:42:08
January 08 2012 10:41 GMT
#8875
On January 08 2012 18:41 Ludwigvan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 18:34 DaNom wrote:
On January 08 2012 18:27 Ludwigvan wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:48 TheRealViceroy wrote:
mvp and mc were the most entertaining casters i have ever seen.

dunno. I was a bit annoyed, when they casted Goody. He was playing his ass off and they were saying how bad he played. I don't enjoy this arrogance. He was not building all the structures in time, yes. But overall, his play was great. When he plays, you see best how it matters to have a priority of focus.

I would agree if they were worse than Goody, but in fact they're much better than him, so in my opinion, they had right to criticism.

BTW. Can't wait for games today!

That is not a good argument. A football coach should in your opinion not have the right to criticize a player, because the player plays better. On the other hand, if Raoul commentates Austria vs Jamaica, he is allowed to say that they are bad. I don't agree at all with this logic. Everyone has the same right to criticize. It is about the argument, not about your skill. Also, saying that something is bad repeatedly is not constructive criticism. Mentioning it once is enough. Everybody knows how slow Goodys multitasking can be sometimes.


His english obviously isn't very top notch, can't blame him for having a few choice words. "good" and "bad" are probably as detailed as they've been this whole event. Shouldn't take it too hard.
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
January 08 2012 10:44 GMT
#8876
I just watched the last minutes and have no idea how people can make such a big deal out of the last few minutes of the hosting/casting.

The daywrap video should have gotten way more attention and love than the "controversy"... Very nicely done!!
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
January 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#8877
On January 08 2012 18:58 Blix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 18:51 fourColo wrote:
Goody still probably would have lost game 3 but his push would have been extremely stronger had he not been supply blocked so much.

In game 2 he should have won way earlier, protoss was doing a cheesey blink stalker allin and not only was it ineffective but he also made some serious micro mistakes. If he wasn't getting supply blocked or sitting with 100 oc energy he could have a-moved in and won right after defending the blink harass.

Still love Goody, but these were like game changing mistakes you don't often see from top players.


Goody would be so sick if he had like near-flawless mechanics

Everyone would be sick if they had flawless mechanics. Flawless mechanics is like half of the Holy Grail of progamers, that's the whole fucking point.
in a state of trance
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
January 08 2012 10:59 GMT
#8878
On January 08 2012 19:41 Jojo131 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 18:41 Ludwigvan wrote:
On January 08 2012 18:34 DaNom wrote:
On January 08 2012 18:27 Ludwigvan wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:48 TheRealViceroy wrote:
mvp and mc were the most entertaining casters i have ever seen.

dunno. I was a bit annoyed, when they casted Goody. He was playing his ass off and they were saying how bad he played. I don't enjoy this arrogance. He was not building all the structures in time, yes. But overall, his play was great. When he plays, you see best how it matters to have a priority of focus.

I would agree if they were worse than Goody, but in fact they're much better than him, so in my opinion, they had right to criticism.

BTW. Can't wait for games today!

That is not a good argument. A football coach should in your opinion not have the right to criticize a player, because the player plays better. On the other hand, if Raoul commentates Austria vs Jamaica, he is allowed to say that they are bad. I don't agree at all with this logic. Everyone has the same right to criticize. It is about the argument, not about your skill. Also, saying that something is bad repeatedly is not constructive criticism. Mentioning it once is enough. Everybody knows how slow Goodys multitasking can be sometimes.


His english obviously isn't very top notch, can't blame him for having a few choice words. "good" and "bad" are probably as detailed as they've been this whole event. Shouldn't take it too hard.

Good point. ^^ I muted the stream, so it wasn't a big deal.
TheLargo
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1 Post
January 08 2012 11:39 GMT
#8879
On January 08 2012 19:55 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 18:58 Blix wrote:
On January 08 2012 18:51 fourColo wrote:
Goody still probably would have lost game 3 but his push would have been extremely stronger had he not been supply blocked so much.

In game 2 he should have won way earlier, protoss was doing a cheesey blink stalker allin and not only was it ineffective but he also made some serious micro mistakes. If he wasn't getting supply blocked or sitting with 100 oc energy he could have a-moved in and won right after defending the blink harass.

Still love Goody, but these were like game changing mistakes you don't often see from top players.


Goody would be so sick if he had like near-flawless mechanics

Everyone would be sick if they had flawless mechanics. Flawless mechanics is like half of the Holy Grail of progamers, that's the whole fucking point.


Thats not the Point.
Goody is very strong in Understanding the Game and his Strategies and his Style would get him the opportunity, to play on a VERY high Level. But his mechanics are THAT bad... 50 apm, his "goody queue" in his facilities, his bad multitasking... thats all kinda gold-league or something.
If these skills were at least even to the most other pros, his performance wohlt be great.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
January 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#8880
Was anyone Sick Nerd Baller enough to do a list of Games/Casters and links to the VODs like yesterday?
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