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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
December 23 2011 09:47 GMT
#461
On December 23 2011 18:45 Elefanto wrote:
Funny how all hailed Hero as the best Protoss when other were failing left and right in Code S, but now that Hero plays against the same opponents he looks as mortal / "bad" as the others were before him.

how did he look bad? july blind countered him..
get rich or die mining
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 09:47:41
December 23 2011 09:47 GMT
#462
On December 23 2011 18:46 HowardRoark wrote:
I am happy Hero goes for Templars, because it makes PvZ games interesting to watch compared to balls of Colossus, but why do it when Colossus balls seem to much better (albeit so much more boring)? Do he skip Colossus balls for entertainment or that the skill cap for Templars are higher than Colossus balls?


He skipped Colossi as soon as his entire army died to mutas because you can't defend mutas on Dual Sight when going fast colossi off 2 base.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 23 2011 09:47 GMT
#463
On December 23 2011 18:45 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:44 Hassybaby wrote:
Is Jinro there with him? Hero talking about how nervous he gets in tournaments without his team there to support him


Hopefully Zenio or anyone else from OGS is if jinro isn't


Hopefully. Jinro's at home it seems, so maybe a few of the oGs guys are there instead
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Smile[PaiN]
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada58 Posts
December 23 2011 09:47 GMT
#464
Wolf really has no idea how to play high level zerg, using the banneling on stalkers was a good choice for the postion july was in. Him screaming WHYY!!!! was really frusterating to listen to.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 23 2011 09:47 GMT
#465
On December 23 2011 18:47 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:45 Drazerk wrote:
On December 23 2011 18:44 Hassybaby wrote:
Is Jinro there with him? Hero talking about how nervous he gets in tournaments without his team there to support him


Hopefully Zenio or anyone else from OGS is if jinro isn't


Hopefully. Jinro's at home it seems, so maybe a few of the oGs guys are there instead


Always has luvsic
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
December 23 2011 09:47 GMT
#466
It's 40 degrees in Los Angeles. Thought I'd share that with you all.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
December 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#467
On December 23 2011 18:47 Smile[PaiN] wrote:
Wolf really has no idea how to play high level zerg, using the banneling on stalkers was a good choice for the postion july was in. Him screaming WHYY!!!! was really frusterating to listen to.

i kind of agree with wolf.. he could have killed every probe at the 3rd and probably the nexus. game was over by then, though. so whatevs
get rich or die mining
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#468
On December 23 2011 18:47 hugedong wrote:
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On December 23 2011 18:44 HolyArrow wrote:
On December 23 2011 18:41 Alejandrisha wrote:
On December 23 2011 18:40 HolyArrow wrote:
I really like HerO, but this just makes me feel like TL massively overrates him. Sure, he looks amazing slapping down players like Ret and Sheth in foreign tournaments, but in the GSL, he never seems to look as good, and it's probably not just because he magically has bad days in the GSL.

Of course, I'd love to see HerO advance from this group, but I'm just trying to be realistic in how I evaluate HerO's skill.

i've watched him slay the best z's in the world on his stream.. he hardly ever loses a pvz from home. i'd chalk it up to nerves or that he has never seen such a build out of 3 base.. really fricken greedy play from july paid off


Really? What players does he beat on his stream? I haven't watched his stream in a while, but if he regularly performs well against top Korean Zergs on the ladder then it definitely must indeed be nerves. I hope he can shrug off this likely loss and advance from the group.

He literally just doesn't lose to zerg on the ladder. Losira comes to mind as someone he beats consistently.


He does lose aswell, particulary to Curious.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
December 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#469
On December 23 2011 18:47 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:45 Elefanto wrote:
Funny how all hailed Hero as the best Protoss when other were failing left and right in Code S, but now that Hero plays against the same opponents he looks as mortal / "bad" as the others were before him.

how did he look bad? july blind countered him..

It wasn't so much of a blind counter - it was coin flipping by hero
Ovreel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States206 Posts
December 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#470
Not being prepared for mutas is like not being prepared for DTs. Really hard to come back from.
Keo.837 Twitch.tv/Ovreel
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
December 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#471
On December 23 2011 18:47 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:47 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 23 2011 18:45 Drazerk wrote:
On December 23 2011 18:44 Hassybaby wrote:
Is Jinro there with him? Hero talking about how nervous he gets in tournaments without his team there to support him


Hopefully Zenio or anyone else from OGS is if jinro isn't


Hopefully. Jinro's at home it seems, so maybe a few of the oGs guys are there instead


Always has luvsic


Don't worry he has the heart of the cards...err wait wrong show.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
December 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#472
On December 23 2011 18:47 Smile[PaiN] wrote:
Wolf really has no idea how to play high level zerg, using the banneling on stalkers was a good choice for the postion july was in. Him screaming WHYY!!!! was really frusterating to listen to.

Well, if he took out the third he pretty much had the game won, which was was Wolf was pointing at.
It appears I have been chosen.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 09:49:20
December 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#473
On December 23 2011 18:47 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:45 Elefanto wrote:
Funny how all hailed Hero as the best Protoss when other were failing left and right in Code S, but now that Hero plays against the same opponents he looks as mortal / "bad" as the others were before him.

how did he look bad? july blind countered him..

That's the silliest thing I've seen in this thread so far. July played a pretty safe/standard muta opening and he was blind countering? He actually scouted with an overseer, unlike Hero (who went prism before obs) O_o
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#474
On December 23 2011 18:47 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:45 Elefanto wrote:
Funny how all hailed Hero as the best Protoss when other were failing left and right in Code S, but now that Hero plays against the same opponents he looks as mortal / "bad" as the others were before him.

how did he look bad? july blind countered him..

No he didn't.
Hero failed to read the situation when he saw the lair tech.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#475
On December 23 2011 18:47 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:45 Elefanto wrote:
Funny how all hailed Hero as the best Protoss when other were failing left and right in Code S, but now that Hero plays against the same opponents he looks as mortal / "bad" as the others were before him.

how did he look bad? july blind countered him..


That's a bit of a biased way of looking at it =p
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
December 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#476
On December 23 2011 18:48 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:47 Alejandrisha wrote:
On December 23 2011 18:45 Elefanto wrote:
Funny how all hailed Hero as the best Protoss when other were failing left and right in Code S, but now that Hero plays against the same opponents he looks as mortal / "bad" as the others were before him.

how did he look bad? july blind countered him..

It wasn't so much of a blind counter - it was coin flipping by hero

july flipped the biggest coin of all. the gates he scouted could have easily gone into a quick gw timing that would have smashed what he was doing (no spines, either) and it's not like he saw the pylon to know some kind of pressure was going to head to the third
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
hugedong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States510 Posts
December 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#477
On December 23 2011 18:47 Bayyne wrote:
It's 40 degrees in Los Angeles. Thought I'd share that with you all.

I'm wearing 2 pairs of pants/sweaters/socks because I don't have a heater.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
December 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#478
Well trading banes for stalkers or any units for that matter is a good idea when you're 4-5 base Zerg against a Protoss up against the Ropes.. so july was doing just fine.

It may have looked worse because his speed banes weren't done when he first engaged can't blame him for that.
Never GG MKP | IdrA
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
December 23 2011 09:50 GMT
#479
On December 23 2011 18:47 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:45 Elefanto wrote:
Funny how all hailed Hero as the best Protoss when other were failing left and right in Code S, but now that Hero plays against the same opponents he looks as mortal / "bad" as the others were before him.

how did he look bad? july blind countered him..


It's hero who dropped the ball there, they both knew opponent's tech, that's not a blind counter. Nerves got hero perhaps.
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
December 23 2011 09:50 GMT
#480
On December 23 2011 18:45 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:40 xrapture wrote:
On December 23 2011 18:38 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Was he assuming fast infestor?


hrm maybe, but as a Terran player myself it's mind boggling as to why someone would do a push vs zerg with no anti air at the 11 minute mark.


I'm getting more convinced that Hero was trying to hit that timing with 4 gate warp prism pressure, but he completely misread the tech and assumed infestors instead of mutas.


why would he assume infestors when mutas are x15077376 times more common in the korean zvp metagame? doesn't make sense.
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