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thefake
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria3 Posts
December 23 2011 13:48 GMT
#2141
On December 23 2011 22:40 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 22:09 thefake wrote:
Naniwa lost his Code S spot for throwing away a game that doesn't count - but in the up'n'down games that doesn't count anymore are not played ... where is equality?

The equality is that those players in the up'n'down didn't throw away their games. Simple as that.


gsl throw it for them ... it has the same effect - a fight a fan might wanted to see didn't happen
pookadin
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia422 Posts
December 23 2011 13:51 GMT
#2142
On December 23 2011 22:48 thefake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 22:40 Fubi wrote:
On December 23 2011 22:09 thefake wrote:
Naniwa lost his Code S spot for throwing away a game that doesn't count - but in the up'n'down games that doesn't count anymore are not played ... where is equality?

The equality is that those players in the up'n'down didn't throw away their games. Simple as that.


gsl throw it for them ... it has the same effect - a fight a fan might wanted to see didn't happen


I heard beating the dead horse will change facts?

Because the GSL is out to get Naniwa right? Take it elsewhere...
*JYP* #1 fan! ♥♥ twitter~ @Pookadin
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
December 23 2011 13:53 GMT
#2143
How does this thread get more posts then IPL teamleague x( way better games over there.
All Dota 2 casters are bad at their job
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 23 2011 13:55 GMT
#2144
2012...

I would say I expect to see Creator coming right up like the way Leenock just randomly won MLG. The kid has some sick potential.
Gameplay > Personality
thefake
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria3 Posts
December 23 2011 13:56 GMT
#2145
at least i feel better
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
December 23 2011 13:57 GMT
#2146
On December 23 2011 22:53 GranDGranT wrote:
How does this thread get more posts then IPL teamleague x( way better games over there.


Cause it's the GSL.....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
December 23 2011 14:02 GMT
#2147
On December 23 2011 22:53 GranDGranT wrote:
How does this thread get more posts then IPL teamleague x( way better games over there.

Because people dont want to watch commercials (or Ads in progress) 50% of the time...
In capitalist America, bank robs YOU!
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 23 2011 14:04 GMT
#2148
On December 23 2011 22:11 polybios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 22:06 Sanchonator wrote:
so


T: 15 {MVP, MMA, jjakji, ganzi, nada, boxer, keen, forgg, supernova, happy, mkp, sc, alive, bomber, gumiho}
Z: 9 {nestea, DRG, leenock, zenio, idra, sen, yugioh, curious, lucky}
P: 8 { MC, oz, puzzle, parting, inca, JYP, brown, genius}

?

getting closer


if Zs and Ps had longer names it would be even more closer!


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha zzzzzzz
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 23 2011 14:04 GMT
#2149
When are the group draws?
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 14:09:41
December 23 2011 14:07 GMT
#2150
huh, do the managers turn up the heat much in the Gom studio?

I notice a lot of people with hand warmers and jackets on. Even saw Khaldor with handwarmers today... hmmmm.
Gameplay > Personality
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 23 2011 14:08 GMT
#2151
On December 23 2011 22:17 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 22:16 Fyzar wrote:
On December 23 2011 22:11 Sareth wrote:
On December 23 2011 22:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I hope Inca and Idra are placed in the same group. I pray for it.

Inca Idra Nada Boxer
*crazy laughter*

No no no, Zenio & IdrA have to get in the same group, just for funzies.


Idra
MC
Zenio
Inca

The exit of your booth is already forcefielded Idra



that will not happen as none of them was in top8 last season.
I think JYP will become an option for Jiajji tho
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 23 2011 14:14 GMT
#2152
On December 23 2011 23:04 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 22:11 polybios wrote:
On December 23 2011 22:06 Sanchonator wrote:
so


T: 15 {MVP, MMA, jjakji, ganzi, nada, boxer, keen, forgg, supernova, happy, mkp, sc, alive, bomber, gumiho}
Z: 9 {nestea, DRG, leenock, zenio, idra, sen, yugioh, curious, lucky}
P: 8 { MC, oz, puzzle, parting, inca, JYP, brown, genius}

?

getting closer


if Zs and Ps had longer names it would be even more closer!


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha zzzzzzz

Surprisingly this is almost identical to the race distribution last january
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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
December 23 2011 14:25 GMT
#2153
Parting probably has the best PvT of all toss players. Sage probably has the best PvZ (at least in practice). Out of all protoss players he probably has the best chance of winning codeS.


uh, MC? It's look like he's got his form back lately, and MC on his game is definitely still one of the most dangerous players in the world. I realize his "just go fucking kill the opponent" style isn't as flashy as Hero's ludicrous multitask, but damn if it isn't effective when paired with MC-level timing and mechanics.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
December 23 2011 14:28 GMT
#2154
On December 23 2011 23:25 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
Parting probably has the best PvT of all toss players. Sage probably has the best PvZ (at least in practice). Out of all protoss players he probably has the best chance of winning codeS.


uh, MC? It's look like he's got his form back lately, and MC on his game is definitely still one of the most dangerous players in the world. I realize his "just go fucking kill the opponent" style isn't as flashy as Hero's ludicrous multitask, but damn if it isn't effective when paired with MC-level timing and mechanics.

MCs PvZ isn't very good though. He the sort of player that can beat any player but his style brings a lot of variance.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 14:39:09
December 23 2011 14:37 GMT
#2155
On December 23 2011 23:28 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 23:25 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Parting probably has the best PvT of all toss players. Sage probably has the best PvZ (at least in practice). Out of all protoss players he probably has the best chance of winning codeS.


uh, MC? It's look like he's got his form back lately, and MC on his game is definitely still one of the most dangerous players in the world. I realize his "just go fucking kill the opponent" style isn't as flashy as Hero's ludicrous multitask, but damn if it isn't effective when paired with MC-level timing and mechanics.

MCs PvZ isn't very good though. He the sort of player that can beat any player but his style brings a lot of variance.


Since the first poster quoted said "in practice" to justify Sage's PvZ, I think it's also safe to use MC's practice here. Stephano showed on his stream that MC is just on another level, especially in practice. MC has also said that he is more confident in PvZ, because he has "figured it out". Then, DRG said in the BlizzCup interviews after he beat MC that he expected MC to win the whole thing. That considered, and after watching Oz's atrocious PvZ vs Curious (considering Oz is the closest contender to Protoss King), I think it's safe to say that MC still is the best at PvZ.

MC did not have very good PvZ a short time ago. But the boss is back.

/fanboy

EDIT: And the poster first quoted said something about Parting having the best PvT. Considering we've seen a total of 2 PvTs with him vs other pro Terrans in which he won (and one was against TOP...), I don't think he can be considered truly up there. As far as PvT goes, MC has always been at the top, although Oz is also pretty damn high too.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 14:41:53
December 23 2011 14:38 GMT
#2156
On December 23 2011 23:28 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 23:25 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Parting probably has the best PvT of all toss players. Sage probably has the best PvZ (at least in practice). Out of all protoss players he probably has the best chance of winning codeS.


uh, MC? It's look like he's got his form back lately, and MC on his game is definitely still one of the most dangerous players in the world. I realize his "just go fucking kill the opponent" style isn't as flashy as Hero's ludicrous multitask, but damn if it isn't effective when paired with MC-level timing and mechanics.

MCs PvZ isn't very good though. He the sort of player that can beat any player but his style brings a lot of variance.


You can say that yes.. But it's actually hard to point to a player that is definitively better than MC in PvZ. I mean... Hero, JYP, Huk, and Naniwa all have these weird losses to zergs that are just absolutely terrible. Maybe Brown, but we haven't seen enough of his games. Of course, if you point to each of the players in their best form then you can say they're better than MC, but it's just so damn inconsistent to say they're better definitively...

EDIT: Speaking of Sage (in practice), I remember watching him take on Stephano and he would be repeatedly destroyed, but as time went on you can tell he was giving Stephano a harder and harder time with Sage finally taking games with a far better PvZ than when he started with which he would demonstrate against other streamers like idra.
Gameplay > Personality
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 23 2011 14:41 GMT
#2157
Bit sad for HerO

But on the other hand that might mean that he can go to homestorycup
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 23 2011 14:44 GMT
#2158
On December 23 2011 23:41 KalWarkov wrote:
Bit sad for HerO

But on the other hand that might mean that he can go to homestorycup

He wasn't gonna go anyway?
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
December 23 2011 15:05 GMT
#2159
Well I guess that settles that with Hero. He's not code S caliber and worse than many Korean protosses. Luckily for him he has the support to fly out to foreign events and win more prizes.
Marines > everything
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 15:14:57
December 23 2011 15:09 GMT
#2160
On December 23 2011 23:37 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 23:28 Eppa! wrote:
On December 23 2011 23:25 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Parting probably has the best PvT of all toss players. Sage probably has the best PvZ (at least in practice). Out of all protoss players he probably has the best chance of winning codeS.


uh, MC? It's look like he's got his form back lately, and MC on his game is definitely still one of the most dangerous players in the world. I realize his "just go fucking kill the opponent" style isn't as flashy as Hero's ludicrous multitask, but damn if it isn't effective when paired with MC-level timing and mechanics.

MCs PvZ isn't very good though. He the sort of player that can beat any player but his style brings a lot of variance.


Since the first poster quoted said "in practice" to justify Sage's PvZ, I think it's also safe to use MC's practice here. Stephano showed on his stream that MC is just on another level, especially in practice. MC has also said that he is more confident in PvZ, because he has "figured it out". Then, DRG said in the BlizzCup interviews after he beat MC that he expected MC to win the whole thing. That considered, and after watching Oz's atrocious PvZ vs Curious (considering Oz is the closest contender to Protoss King), I think it's safe to say that MC still is the best at PvZ.

MC did not have very good PvZ a short time ago. But the boss is back.

/fanboy

EDIT: And the poster first quoted said something about Parting having the best PvT. Considering we've seen a total of 2 PvTs with him vs other pro Terrans in which he won (and one was against TOP...), I don't think he can be considered truly up there. As far as PvT goes, MC has always been at the top, although Oz is also pretty damn high too.


MC has some sick fanboys lol.
His PvZ has been woeful for ages, is barely 50% in Korea, he'll need to do a lot more to convince me he has the best PvZ in Korea, although he obviously is playing better lately.
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