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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 13 2011 12:52 GMT
#5101
On December 13 2011 21:50 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:49 Gesh wrote:
Btw, the post from guinea pig is a very good one
@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?

Tell him to win a tournament if he wants a spot.


He can't be sent around to every foreign tournament like Naniwa is. GunieaPig has never been to a MLG, Dreamhack, or any tournament that he could qualify to get into the Blizzard Cup. Except the top three GSL rankings.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 13 2011 12:52 GMT
#5102
lol, MMA's TvZ is pretty good, didn't see their first game but this is quite 1 sided, don't understand why so many Zerg's allin on this map, it's so good for Z
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
PapaJed
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden211 Posts
December 13 2011 12:52 GMT
#5103
On December 13 2011 21:42 Pipeline wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:34 PapaJed wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:29 Pipeline wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:21 Angelbelow wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:18 Talin wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:16 ethorn wrote:
Nice overreaction by you forum guys.

How can you blame him?
He is pissed off and have no motivation to play after getting cheesed out of the tournament.

That last match means literally nothing for both of the players and shouldn't even have been played. It's a stupid format.


It is far beyond most people at TL to understand human emotion.

We want PROFESSIONALISM in ESPORTS, fuck how the players feel. -_-


Surprised to see a post like this coming from you. Obviously I disagree here.

While I think the forum has greatly overreacted, I still wouldn't shy away from calling naniwa's behavior disrespectful to Gomtv, fans, and other professionals.


If anything it is disrespectful of Gom to make players play worthless matches. There was no reason at all for that game to played. After that a bunch of forum people start complaining like there is no tomorrow. And you talk about professionalism? In what sport does a player or a team send out their a-team to play a match that doesnt matter???

We see this behaviour in every sport almost so I really dont understand the mass of haters.


Uhum? In every sport teams play matches that "doesn´t mean anything" but the pride in winning. That´s the very foundation of all sports. You seriously think the teams in the football world cup play to win some prizemoney? Even if a crappy team loses all their games they will still fight like crazy to take at least one win with them home, to show their fans that they tried their very best. You obviously don´t watch sports, or at least doesnt understand it.


Since you bring up football we can compare it to champions league. Last stage of group play when teams are already qualified you always see teams change their entire line-up for reserves. I guarantee you they don't do it for the fans....


I think you´re missing the point. The "reserves" play to win. In fact they want to win really bad. It´s the COACH that realizes he need to save the best players for the later stages. The coach knows the players will play to win every game, so he has to make the decision for the players.
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 12:53:29
December 13 2011 12:52 GMT
#5104
On December 13 2011 21:51 Executor1 wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:50 ptrpb wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:49 Gesh wrote:
Btw, the post from guinea pig is a very good one
@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?

Tell him to win a tournament if he wants a spot.

Yea like naniwa did to get into the tournament? oh no wait he got second.....

His place was for winning the MLG Invitational I believe?

Edit: Wrong it was 1st and 2nd place, my bad
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 13 2011 12:52 GMT
#5105
On December 13 2011 21:52 mcmartini wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:51 Executor1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:50 ptrpb wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:49 Gesh wrote:
Btw, the post from guinea pig is a very good one
@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?

Tell him to win a tournament if he wants a spot.

Yea like naniwa did to get into the tournament? oh no wait he got second.....

His place was for winning the MLG Invitational I believe?

no it was for 2nd at providence
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 13 2011 12:52 GMT
#5106
plz stop with the football comparisons. At the end of a seasons, when a team has nothing to play for, they will field a team with b-players/youngsters. Football is a team sport and those players have everything to play for even if the team doesnt. They are playing their best to increase their chances of getting in to the a-team.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5107
On December 13 2011 21:48 Seeker wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:45 Seeker wrote:
MMA
vs
Leenock

on Daybreak

MMA at top right

Leenock at bottom left

First 5 minutes

Leenock opens standard FE

MMA opens standard but hides his rax in his base

Leenock grabs gas + pool

MMA grabs 1 rax CC
MMA goes for a wall
MMA grabs both gas

Leenock getting speed

MMA getting a bunker



5 - 10 minutes

Leenock scouts MMA

MMA snipes the ling before Leenock can see MMA's tech however

Leenock throws down a roach warren

MMA getting reactor hellions

Leenock going for another scout but MMA snipes the ling
Leenock hitting baneling nest
Leenock going for a roach/bling composition

MMA going for Leenock's base and sees the roaches
MMA going for marauders

Leenock moving into MMA's base with his roaches

MMA increases 2 bunker immediately and now has marauders on the way

Leenock morphing banelings

MMA does not know about the banes

Leenock moves in
Leenock tears down MMA's wall

MMA does have 1 more bunker at the back and forced Leenock to back off

Leenock getting a macro hatchery

MMA getting stim/medivacs


10 - 15 minutes

MMA scouts Leenock's 3rd with his hellion
MMA going for a drop with 1 medivac
MMA moves out with a small army to get rid of Leenock's scouting lings

Leenock running around with his lings to see if he can scout anything

MMA drops Leenock's main but backs off immediately
MMA has a viking sniping Leenock's overlord
MMA moves out to pressure Leenock

Leenock now getting burrow
Leenock getting a spire
Leenock morphing banes to take on MMA's army

MMA stims in to Leenock's 3rd

Battle ensues

MMA's nice micro keeps his army from being wiped out by banelings

Leenock forced to move in but MMA micros away from the banes

MMA's sexy micro saved his army but in the end, picks up and retreats

Leenock now getting mutas

MMA moving out with another army, he now has tanks
MMA getting ready to pressure Leenock's 3rd again

Leenock decides to stay in his base with his mutas for defensive purposes
Leenock has 2 burrowed banes to take on MMA

MMA does have a nice army but could lose it to burrowed banes
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5108
On December 13 2011 21:51 Executor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:50 ptrpb wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:49 Gesh wrote:
Btw, the post from guinea pig is a very good one
@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?

Tell him to win a tournament if he wants a spot.

Yea like naniwa did to get into the tournament? oh no wait he got second.....


Plus a lot of Korean players don't have rich sponsors that can fly them everywhere to take part in these tournaments in the first place.
Gameplay > Personality
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5109
On December 13 2011 21:52 mcmartini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:51 Executor1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:50 ptrpb wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:49 Gesh wrote:
Btw, the post from guinea pig is a very good one
@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?

Tell him to win a tournament if he wants a spot.

Yea like naniwa did to get into the tournament? oh no wait he got second.....

His place was for winning the MLG Invitational I believe?

Second in Providence i thought, going by the video.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5110
Man MMA is god like vs zerg O.o;
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5111
Baneling landmine YEAH!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5112
--- Nuked ---
XRuneTH
Profile Joined April 2011
Vietnam34 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5113
In my opinion, IdrA 's rage was always entertaining. I LOLED every times except for the "not gg" of him with BoxeR in NASL. Based on his stream we can see in real life he is a nice guy.


Naniwa 's rage was just stupid and not entertaining at all.
No pain, no gain
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5114
On December 13 2011 21:51 StatorFlux wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:44 MayorITC wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:31 StatorFlux wrote:
From GSL's rulebook
9) There should be no communication between the players other than ‘GG’, ‘gg’, ‘ㅎㅎ’,'ㅈㅈ' and etc to surrender the game.

Automatic Loss Rule

When the friend log-in notification pops up during the game play
When the player receives a whisper (message) during the game play from another user (failure to set the status to busy)
Sending chat messages other than ‘GG’, ‘gg’, ‘ㅎㅎ’,'ㅈㅈ' to declare the loss during the game.


Should Stephano be punished for chatting yesterday? No. Should he be reprimanded? Yes.
Should Naniwa be punished for doing a bad strategy? No. Should he be reprimanded?. Yes.

So many have shifting standards based on their like or dislike of certain players. Dislike him all you want but be objective.


"Bad strategy."

Yes, clearly probe rushing and taking hands off keyboard is "bad strategy." I'm not a fan of ad hominem attacks, but your logic is so flawed that it's depressing to Swedes resort to such bullshit arguments to defend Naniwa.

In case you missed my point, what Naniwa did isn't bad strategy. It's throwing a match. Please go back to the GSL rulebook and look up the consequences for that.


I admitted to sugarcoating it. I haven't said what Naniwa did wasn't wrong. What do you think about Stephano?

I don't find anything about throwing matches in the rulebook, please direct me to them.

It was an bad and unsavory thing to do, I agree, but was it illegal?


I dont think anyone said it was illegal and i dont think he will or really should get reprimanded. But it was a shitty thing to do to many different ppl, the tournament organizers , his fans, his team , his opponent. It was just a bitch move on so many different levels.
Polox
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden115 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5115
On December 13 2011 21:49 Gesh wrote:
Btw, the post from guinea pig is a very good one
Show nested quote +
@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?


Why does it matter what the people in the MVP thinks of this? They are obvious biased as they didn't even let naniwa practise with them when they were in the same team. People have been shitting on Naniwa forever, but when other people does disrespectful stuff people here acts like it's a totally different matter.

I totally support Naniwa for his decision, even if I would like to see a rematch between Nestea - Naniwa.
IMMABEASTBRUH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States271 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5116
Omfg... sickest siege tank target firing 4 banes in 1 shot
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#5117
The tank died from zergling fire. Heh.

MMA has some great control, but I don't like that he keeps these small groups of marines around the map.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
December 13 2011 12:54 GMT
#5118
Holy shit! Baneling range is fucking awesome. Great detonation from Leenock getting all the way to the end of the marine ball.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 13 2011 12:54 GMT
#5119
To probe rush was a stupid move, but I still don't get why they played the game

I thought gsl avoided useless games
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
December 13 2011 12:54 GMT
#5120
On December 13 2011 21:52 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Ive said it before il say it again... marines counter banelings.


banes > marines
stim marines > banes
speed banes > stim marines
and this would look a bit different whether its on or off creep
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