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Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable.

And as always:
- No player bashing.
- No caster bashing.
- No balance whining.

Enjoy the games.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
December 11 2011 21:45 GMT
#281
I think what is most telling is comparing stephanos ladder record to idra's. Both top foreign zergs, both used to using ladder as the main source of practice.
But of course this isnt a tournament that you can predict for. going 0-4 in this tournament would mean as much as going 4-0.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
December 11 2011 21:46 GMT
#282
gogo Stephano~
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
chestnutman
Profile Joined March 2011
176 Posts
December 11 2011 21:46 GMT
#283
my predictions:

1) Stephano (undefeated)
2) MVP (still tired from WCG, will drop 1 or 2 games)
3) Hero

honorable mentions: MC; DRG
Nitro68
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France470 Posts
December 11 2011 21:48 GMT
#284
I hope Stephano qualifies, but it's gonna be hard !!!
1. MVP
2. Hero
3. Stephano
4. DRG
5. MC
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 11 2011 21:51 GMT
#285
What an insane group. Can't watch tomorrow, damned.
I had a good night of sleep.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 11 2011 21:55 GMT
#286
I am so looking forward to this. Just hoping I can wake up in time
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
December 11 2011 21:56 GMT
#287
On December 12 2011 02:38 Asha` wrote:
MVP would very likely top it in a BoX, but given it's Bo1 almost anything can happen.


Given it's 4 games, it's more like a Bo4. I hate when people say these formats are Bo1s, because they aren't. You are still playing 4 matches, if you lose 3 of them you deserve nothing.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
December 11 2011 21:57 GMT
#288
2 games on the same map for DRG? That doesn't seem particularly fair. Did they just randomize them all?
Veritask
Profile Joined November 2010
260 Posts
December 11 2011 21:57 GMT
#289
1. MVP vs MC. MVP just played in WCG. MC will have been practicing for this match more.
2. hero vs Stephano. His pvz is godly.
3. MVP vs DongRaeGu. Probably the most interesting game. I'll go with the safe bet.
4. MC vs hero. bo1 pvp, impossible to predict.
5. Stephano vs DongRaeGu. I'll take stephano just to be euro-friendly
6. hero vs MVP. Upset!
7. Stephano vs MC. Hard one to call. Haven't seen much of either player lately.
8. hero vs DongRaeGu
9. Stephano vs MVP
10. MC vs DongRaeGu

MVP: 2-2
MC: 2-2
Hero: 3-1
DRG: 1-3
Stephano: 2-2

These games are really close. All my picks could be wrong and I wouldn't be surprised.

Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
December 11 2011 21:58 GMT
#290
MC better have some sick timing pushes for his PvZ games.

Don´t see him going through even if he beats MVP. Also, PvP on Calm Before the Storm? I have no idea what that is like.
MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
December 11 2011 21:58 GMT
#291
On December 12 2011 06:34 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 06:32 MuK_x wrote:
Oh well...

my predictions:

1.HerO
2.MVP
3.MC
4.DRG
5.Stephano


Haha it's nice to see a liquid fanboy just to balance out the stephano fanboys.

So its you again...

you following my posts?

sigh.
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
December 11 2011 22:00 GMT
#292
Oh yes thank god, it's not played on the ladder map pool, i was afraid of it since it's "Blizzard" cup.
This tour can only be made of win.
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 11 2011 22:00 GMT
#293
Stephano and Hero won't make it.. Hero is a foreigner snipper but when confronted with a top korean pro he shrivels and gets 2-0'd. Stephano has never been in this kind of company before, he's a bit of an unknown and could surprise us, but most likely he'll lose all his games except perhaps against DRG.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 22:03:45
December 11 2011 22:01 GMT
#294
It's going to be
MVP
MC
DRG
Hero
Stephano

MC and DRG are interchangable, as are Hero and Stephano. Anyone saying otherwise really hasn't been watching all of these players. (and I'm not just talking about ladder)

+ Show Spoiler +
Hero 4-0????????????????????????? WTF is wrong with you people. The guy can't even make a splash in Code A and now he's going to beat 3 Code S players?
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 11 2011 22:10 GMT
#295
On December 12 2011 05:48 MuK_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 05:42 Sfydjklm wrote:
Stephano is 3rd highest ranked zerg in korean GM.
Stephano has 71% wr in gm while idra has 54.
That should be a pretty good clue to how ridiculously good Stephano actually is.

because when IdrA seeing 11/11 rax,he instantly leave the game.

or any cheesy openings.

That's a very good way to train for GSL ><
Ihsahn
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile132 Posts
December 11 2011 22:10 GMT
#296
This is gonna be sick...and im gonna miss it ....
nadaesimposibleniunawea
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 22:11:48
December 11 2011 22:11 GMT
#297
MVP> MC
hero > Stephano
MVP > DongRaeGu
MC < hero
Stephano < DongRaeGu
hero > MVP
Stephano < MC
hero > DongRaeGu
Stephano < MVP
MC < DongRaeGu

My predictions for herO is assuming he's playing his A-game with no tilting. Still considering the caliber of the players he's facing, I wouldn't consider him the favorite in any match.
Stephano I think can only take on DRG (because it's ZvZ ) and possible herO. Has a decent chance vs MC too. No chance vs MVP tho...

I think the worst performers will most likely be Stephano or MC.
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
December 11 2011 22:13 GMT
#298
I'm a bit worried for Mvp. No TvTs, 4 strong opponents (of which 2 are protoss, which is his weakest matchup), and not a lot of time to practice due to WCG.

Oh well... He's Mvp so he will probably own everyone anyways.
What a player
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
December 11 2011 22:15 GMT
#299
Lol. The same Hero that hasn't been able to get out of Ro32 Code A, losing to players like asd.

-_- Some people and their fanboyism, really. You can watch him stomp foreigners all day, but the GSL is a differnece monster, and Hero has never performed well.
secret - never again
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#300
On December 12 2011 06:20 AIOL! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 05:36 dsousa wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:41 MrCon wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:36 Lasbike wrote:
I don't know if there is a betting website out there, but Mvp on Shakuras Plateau against Stephano must be pretty one sided :p

Mon 12/12 4201 Mvp Offline Offline Offline
01:25 AM 4202 MC Offline Offline Offline
Mon 12/12 4203 Hero 1.625
01:25 AM 4204 Stephano 2.360
Mon 12/12 4205 Mvp 1.752
01:25 AM 4206 DongRaeGu 2.140
Mon 12/12 4207 Hero 1.735
01:25 AM 4208 MC 2.160
Mon 12/12 4209 Stephano 2.050
01:25 AM 4210 DongRaeGu 1.813
Mon 12/12 4211 Hero 2.230
01:25 AM 4212 Mvp 1.694
Mon 12/12 4213 Stephano 2.160
01:25 AM 4214 MC 1.735
Mon 12/12 4215 Hero 1.935
01:25 AM 4216 DongRaeGu 1.917
Mon 12/12 4217 Stephano 2.420
01:25 AM 4218 Mvp 1.599
Mon 12/12 4219 MC 2.190
01:25 AM 4220 DongRaeGu 1.719

Not sure why MC vs MVP is removed.
Stephano is not that an underdog. for people who think he'll get crushed, here's a wa yto make a lot of money :p

anyway, I think people are growing the bo1 thing out of proportion. It's not one bo1 and you're out, it's 4 bo1 and the 3 players who score the most advance. It makes a big difference in the randomness of results. Yes, it's harder to predict a single result, but the overall result will still be coherent with the perceived skill level (and if it's not, it won't be because of the format 100% of the times, but most likely because one player will play badly).
Imagining bo1 are super volatile and MVP would be cheesed, he would still win his next 3 games and advance.
It's bad for us because we would like to see more games, but as a format I don't think it's bad.


Very interesting odds.

If I read them correctly, Stephano is the underdog in each of the matches? Biggest underdog vs Hero (*edit: actually biggest dog vs MVP).... MVP is favored in each match, biggest vs Hero.

If I were going to take 1 bet, I would take Stephano to beat Hero with those odds.

Regardless, it looks like the oddmakers agree its a close group with MVP the favorite and 2nd place a toss-up.


Yeah the big odd to take is clearly Stephano vs Hero here. I think the true overhype is the hero's PvZ and Stephano has like 95%winrate vs korean protosses on the ladder. At 2.36 for stephano's victory it's clearly an easy bet.

The two other good bet are on PvP and ZvZ, since it's a random match-up you i'd choose MC at 2.160 and Stephano at 2.050 (and he's not that bad in ZvZ)

Stephano vs MC is pretty ok too, at 2.160 we can take it for the same reasons as vs Hero.


I mostly agree, but I wouldn't bet against DRG in ZvZ. DRG was the very first non named Nestea to beat Losira in a televised ZvZ, and he's pretty beastly in the matchup. At 1.8, this is a VERY good odd on DRG imo.
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