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Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable.

And as always:
- No player bashing.
- No caster bashing.
- No balance whining.

Enjoy the games.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
December 11 2011 22:46 GMT
#321
so brutal for MVP. He's got the first day of matches and he has to go first that day too!
Someone call down the Thunder?
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
December 11 2011 22:47 GMT
#322
On December 12 2011 07:42 MjoLniRXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:24 chenchen wrote:
People who think that Hero is actually good really need to take a look at his Korean TLPD.

Hero only looks good because Liquid flies him around so he can own up bad foreigners. He's not good compared to Koreans.

I'd argue that he's the worst player in this group.


You obviously don't read anything or pay attention to anything meaningful. HerO is great compared to Koreans. He was heralded as the best Protoss in the oGs House for some time before joining Liquid. He was rank 1 on Korean GM, much like DRG... who he knocked out of Code A before DRG got into Code S through MLG (I believe). Artosis, Tasteless, Day[9], etc have all praised him as one of the top Protoss players in the world, if not the best. Every player on Liquid will tell you how good HerO is. He is great and has the potential to be a long standing champion. Your ignorance is laughable (yes, I am aware that I am a fanboy, but with good reason mind you).


Ok then tell me why he routinely loses to mediocre Koreans such as . . . let's see . . . Yugioh, Dreamertt, asd, and Noblesse.

If he's losing to these types of players regularly, he can't be considered a top Korean. He is, however, a decent Korean protoss and it shows since he can beat foreigners without too much trouble, but someone who loses to midtier Koreans and has a sub-50% winrate on TLPD should never ever ever be considered a top Korean.

Hero's results in Korea speak for themselves. 13-20. What a great player.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=222&part=games&league=standard
powerade = dragoon blood
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 11 2011 22:47 GMT
#323
On December 12 2011 07:42 MjoLniRXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:24 chenchen wrote:
People who think that Hero is actually good really need to take a look at his Korean TLPD.

Hero only looks good because Liquid flies him around so he can own up bad foreigners. He's not good compared to Koreans.

I'd argue that he's the worst player in this group.


You obviously don't read anything or pay attention to anything meaningful. HerO is great compared to Koreans. He was heralded as the best Protoss in the oGs House for some time before joining Liquid. He was rank 1 on Korean GM, much like DRG... who he knocked out of Code A before DRG got into Code S through MLG (I believe). Artosis, Tasteless, Day[9], etc have all praised him as one of the top Protoss players in the world, if not the best. Every player on Liquid will tell you how good HerO is. He is great and has the potential to be a long standing champion. Your ignorance is laughable (yes, I am aware that I am a fanboy, but with good reason mind you).



Best protoss over MC and Inca when they were in Code S? Gonna need a source on that.
Makaprime/Byun is the current no.1 on ladder, please stop using this as a reason to say someone is awesome.
Artosis thinks Nestea is the best player in the world and Sage is a top protoss...nuff said.
Of course every player on liquid thinks he's good, they're all pretty mid tier guys, besides Ret and Zenio who are maybe low Code A.

Yes Hero is good, yes he is innovative, but his play vs Koreans is pretty abyssmal and his hype is from pounding foreigners. He.is.not.on.the.level.of.these.code.s.guys.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
December 11 2011 22:47 GMT
#324
I'm soo excited for this. Hoping for MVP, Stephano, and DRG to advance. Although I do like all of these players and wouldn't mind at all to see any of the others to do well.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 11 2011 22:48 GMT
#325
On December 12 2011 07:42 MjoLniRXx wrote:
You obviously don't read anything or pay attention to anything meaningful. HerO is great compared to Koreans. He was heralded as the best Protoss in the oGs House for some time before joining Liquid. He was rank 1 on Korean GM, much like DRG... who he knocked out of Code A before DRG got into Code S through MLG (I believe). Artosis, Tasteless, Day[9], etc have all praised him as one of the top Protoss players in the world, if not the best. Every player on Liquid will tell you how good HerO is. He is great and has the potential to be a long standing champion. Your ignorance is laughable (yes, I am aware that I am a fanboy, but with good reason mind you).


MC was still in the house when HerO left, and MC was still considered to be the best Protoss in the world at that point, so I don't believe that at all.
MakaPrime (with Byun/MKP sometimes on his account) is also Rank 1 in GM. Hell, almost all the hype surrounding Stephano is because he's doing well on ladder.

He is a really good player, but seeing him as successful in Korea any time soon is blindly optimistic at best.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
December 11 2011 22:48 GMT
#326
On December 12 2011 07:46 RaiKageRyu wrote:
so brutal for MVP. He's got the first day of matches and he has to go first that day too!

why is it brutal?
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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 11 2011 22:52 GMT
#327
On December 12 2011 07:47 1Eris1 wrote:
Artosis thinks Nestea is the best player in the world


Actually, I'm fairly sure from interviews outside of Code S that Artosis thinks MVP is the best in the world (along with everyone else...), his Nestea fanboyism is more a long running joke than a serious opinion.

That doesn't mean that Artosis' opinion should be used as evidence for anything. He has a pretty bad record of predictions/knowledge, ranging from CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE through to "the best Protoss, Sage", from Alicia to "MKP's Reaper TvT build" (which Boxer used in his 2 TvTs before...).
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 11 2011 22:56 GMT
#328
On December 12 2011 07:52 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:47 1Eris1 wrote:
Artosis thinks Nestea is the best player in the world


Actually, I'm fairly sure from interviews outside of Code S that Artosis thinks MVP is the best in the world (along with everyone else...), his Nestea fanboyism is more a long running joke than a serious opinion.

That doesn't mean that Artosis' opinion should be used as evidence for anything. He has a pretty bad record of predictions/knowledge, ranging from CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE through to "the best Protoss, Sage", from Alicia to "MKP's Reaper TvT build" (which Boxer used in his 2 TvTs before...).



Fair enough. He jumps from X to Y to Z back to X to A,etc on who is the best by race/world, etc that it's hard to keep up.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 11 2011 22:58 GMT
#329
On December 12 2011 07:42 MjoLniRXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:24 chenchen wrote:
People who think that Hero is actually good really need to take a look at his Korean TLPD.

Hero only looks good because Liquid flies him around so he can own up bad foreigners. He's not good compared to Koreans.

I'd argue that he's the worst player in this group.


You obviously don't read anything or pay attention to anything meaningful. HerO is great compared to Koreans. He was heralded as the best Protoss in the oGs House for some time before joining Liquid. He was rank 1 on Korean GM, much like DRG... who he knocked out of Code A before DRG got into Code S through MLG (I believe). Artosis, Tasteless, Day[9], etc have all praised him as one of the top Protoss players in the world, if not the best. Every player on Liquid will tell you how good HerO is. He is great and has the potential to be a long standing champion. Your ignorance is laughable (yes, I am aware that I am a fanboy, but with good reason mind you).


It was JYP that knocked DRG out of code A that time.

People are right in that HerO doesn't have good results against many Korean players, not even in pvz which is what he's supposed to be known for. However, I always feel like the potential is there with HerO, he just kind of defeats himself. In fact I feel like herO is going to make it out of the group even though past results don't agree with me. If I were going purely off of results I'd say it's going to be: MVP > DRG > MC.

However, if I've learned anything from watching the GSL this long it's that things don't go as they should quite often. Today I go with the unlikely choice.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Skillig
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium141 Posts
December 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#330
rooting for stephano and naniwa , foreigners fighting !!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
December 11 2011 23:00 GMT
#331
On December 12 2011 07:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:46 RaiKageRyu wrote:
so brutal for MVP. He's got the first day of matches and he has to go first that day too!

why is it brutal?


He just finished WCG just yesterday. He's got some cramming to do.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
December 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#332
this will be bad ass! Cant wait for tomorrow
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#333
DRG knocked out by Hero in the Code A qualifiers not Code A tournament.

And you guys are idiots, pulling out the TLPD that has wins and losses from 8 months ago? Really? Asia Champions Trophy? What the hell is that?
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#334
On December 12 2011 08:00 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On December 12 2011 07:46 RaiKageRyu wrote:
so brutal for MVP. He's got the first day of matches and he has to go first that day too!

why is it brutal?


He just finished WCG just yesterday. He's got some cramming to do.


Q : Blizzcup starts tomorrow, you must have not been able to practice much - are you confident about winning it?

A: After I go back to Seoul, I have to participate in BlizzCup straight away tomorrow. Blizzcup 2011 is suppose to be the tournament where they pick the best player of the year and that is the tournament that I must win. I have looked at the list of 10 other participants and they are all so strong. I am bit worried that I was not able to practice due to WCG but I still want to win.

MVP interview
MMA: The true King of Wings
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
December 11 2011 23:03 GMT
#335
MC fighting! really rough group
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
December 11 2011 23:04 GMT
#336
"tomorrow morning is going to be a good morning"... *_*
theMiNUS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
December 11 2011 23:04 GMT
#337
GOMtv hates me!
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this is finals week
not idly do the leaves of lorien fall...
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
December 11 2011 23:05 GMT
#338
Rooting for MVP, MC and DRG!! Pretty exciting series of games! :D Pretty funny that MVP took 3 of the 10 spots, good on MMA and polt making it in though, should make it more interesting indeed.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 11 2011 23:06 GMT
#339
On December 12 2011 08:02 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 08:00 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On December 12 2011 07:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On December 12 2011 07:46 RaiKageRyu wrote:
so brutal for MVP. He's got the first day of matches and he has to go first that day too!

why is it brutal?


He just finished WCG just yesterday. He's got some cramming to do.


Q : Blizzcup starts tomorrow, you must have not been able to practice much - are you confident about winning it?

A: After I go back to Seoul, I have to participate in BlizzCup straight away tomorrow. Blizzcup 2011 is suppose to be the tournament where they pick the best player of the year and that is the tournament that I must win. I have looked at the list of 10 other participants and they are all so strong. I am bit worried that I was not able to practice due to WCG but I still want to win.

MVP interview


MVP put alot of preassure on himself but if anyone can do it is MVP
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
December 11 2011 23:07 GMT
#340
Ugh, no chance of watching this with an 8 AM exam tomorrow.
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