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Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable.

And as always:
- No player bashing.
- No caster bashing.
- No balance whining.

Enjoy the games.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 23:08:19
December 11 2011 23:08 GMT
#341
Korean TLPD for Hero is not very accurate, he's like Oz who was a mediocre/average player for a long time, then got a terrible TLPD record, then he start to be good but all his good results are in the int database, so his TLPD still look terrible. Doesn't help that he keeps getting owned in code A, but no way he's worse than most code S players (in fact, I'd say he's better than most).
It's just hard to play your life on a single bo3 every 2 months, and to have to try again if you fail.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#342
t.t I have to decide now whether I buy the 10 dollar ad ticket for blizz cup or 100 dollar yearly and get it free >.> not the decision I want to have to make today
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 23:11:51
December 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#343
On December 12 2011 08:08 MrCon wrote:
Korean TLPD for Hero is not very accurate, he's like Oz who was a mediocre/average player for a long time, then got a terrible TLPD record, then he start to be good but all his good results are in the int database, so his TLPD still look terrible. Doesn't help that he keeps getting owned in code A, but no way he's worse than most code S players (in fact, I'd say he's better than most).
It's just hard to play your life on a single bo3 every 2 months, and to have to try again if you fail.

Even if you only look at the last 2 months his results in Korea are still extremely mediocre. It's not like he got MVP or MC in the first round of Code A 2 times, if he was better than most code S players he wouldn't be losing to Yugioh and asd.
NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 23:12:01
December 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#344
I'm excited, but I hope this isn't just a weird side tourney like AOL was.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 11 2011 23:15 GMT
#345
On December 12 2011 08:11 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 08:08 MrCon wrote:
Korean TLPD for Hero is not very accurate, he's like Oz who was a mediocre/average player for a long time, then got a terrible TLPD record, then he start to be good but all his good results are in the int database, so his TLPD still look terrible. Doesn't help that he keeps getting owned in code A, but no way he's worse than most code S players (in fact, I'd say he's better than most).
It's just hard to play your life on a single bo3 every 2 months, and to have to try again if you fail.

Even if you only look at the last 2 months his results in Korea are still extremely mediocre. It's not like he got MVP or MC in the first round of Code A 2 times, if he was better than most code S players he wouldn't be losing to Yugioh and asd.

Since when asd is bad ?
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
December 11 2011 23:16 GMT
#346
On December 12 2011 08:08 MrCon wrote:
Korean TLPD for Hero is not very accurate, he's like Oz who was a mediocre/average player for a long time, then got a terrible TLPD record, then he start to be good but all his good results are in the int database, so his TLPD still look terrible. Doesn't help that he keeps getting owned in code A, but no way he's worse than most code S players (in fact, I'd say he's better than most).
It's just hard to play your life on a single bo3 every 2 months, and to have to try again if you fail.


If he were "better than most Code S players",

he would not be dropping games every single time he plays a half-decent Koreans.

Beating foreigners all the time says NOTHING about skill since foreigners are, in general, absolutely god awful compared to top Koreans.
powerade = dragoon blood
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 11 2011 23:17 GMT
#347
On December 12 2011 08:11 NEXUS6 wrote:
I'm excited, but I hope this isn't just a weird side tourney like AOL was.


Well it's offline and has a 43k prize pool, so not very likely.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
December 11 2011 23:18 GMT
#348
On December 12 2011 08:15 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 08:11 Olinimm wrote:
On December 12 2011 08:08 MrCon wrote:
Korean TLPD for Hero is not very accurate, he's like Oz who was a mediocre/average player for a long time, then got a terrible TLPD record, then he start to be good but all his good results are in the int database, so his TLPD still look terrible. Doesn't help that he keeps getting owned in code A, but no way he's worse than most code S players (in fact, I'd say he's better than most).
It's just hard to play your life on a single bo3 every 2 months, and to have to try again if you fail.

Even if you only look at the last 2 months his results in Korea are still extremely mediocre. It's not like he got MVP or MC in the first round of Code A 2 times, if he was better than most code S players he wouldn't be losing to Yugioh and asd.

Since when asd is bad ?


Since when were asd and Yugioh qualified as "better than most Code S players"

Lets face it, Hero has underperformed severely in Korea, and until he has a breakout like Oz, its completely reasonable to expect nothing major from him. People voting hero 4-0 are just severely deluded. At best he'll have a 2-2 performance today.
secret - never again
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 11 2011 23:19 GMT
#349
On December 12 2011 08:16 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 08:08 MrCon wrote:
Korean TLPD for Hero is not very accurate, he's like Oz who was a mediocre/average player for a long time, then got a terrible TLPD record, then he start to be good but all his good results are in the int database, so his TLPD still look terrible. Doesn't help that he keeps getting owned in code A, but no way he's worse than most code S players (in fact, I'd say he's better than most).
It's just hard to play your life on a single bo3 every 2 months, and to have to try again if you fail.


If he were "better than most Code S players",

he would not be dropping games every single time he plays a half-decent Koreans.

Beating foreigners all the time says NOTHING about skill since foreigners are, in general, absolutely god awful compared to top Koreans.

He's 9-7 in the last 3 months on the kor database. It's not as terrible as you say it is, and it explain why he's doomed to have a terrible TLPD (at this rate, he'll be positive in like 3 years xD)
Most code S protoss are also losing everytime they hit a decent (foreign or not) player.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
December 11 2011 23:19 GMT
#350
HerO, MC and Stephano being in the oGs house, it must have been hard for those three to elaborate specific strategies. Therefore i'd give an edge to MVP and DRG.
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
December 11 2011 23:20 GMT
#351
On December 12 2011 08:11 NEXUS6 wrote:
I'm excited, but I hope this isn't just a weird side tourney like AOL was.

I believe this is like the most hyped tournament in term of players
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
December 11 2011 23:20 GMT
#352
can you expect a better group?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? anywhere?!?!!??!!?!?!!?!, god damnit such a good group.
stephano mc mvp
dongraegu hero

i predict mvp, dongraegu, stephano, hero, mc
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 23:23:47
December 11 2011 23:21 GMT
#353
On December 12 2011 08:18 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 08:15 MrCon wrote:
On December 12 2011 08:11 Olinimm wrote:
On December 12 2011 08:08 MrCon wrote:
Korean TLPD for Hero is not very accurate, he's like Oz who was a mediocre/average player for a long time, then got a terrible TLPD record, then he start to be good but all his good results are in the int database, so his TLPD still look terrible. Doesn't help that he keeps getting owned in code A, but no way he's worse than most code S players (in fact, I'd say he's better than most).
It's just hard to play your life on a single bo3 every 2 months, and to have to try again if you fail.

Even if you only look at the last 2 months his results in Korea are still extremely mediocre. It's not like he got MVP or MC in the first round of Code A 2 times, if he was better than most code S players he wouldn't be losing to Yugioh and asd.

Since when asd is bad ?


Since when were asd and Yugioh qualified as "better than most Code S players"

Lets face it, Hero has underperformed severely in Korea, and until he has a breakout like Oz, its completely reasonable to expect nothing major from him. People voting hero 4-0 are just severely deluded. At best he'll have a 2-2 performance today.

There's a difference between "being better than most code S protoss" and losing to yugioh or asd. As I said, most code S protoss, in fact all of them except Oz and MC (not even sure for MC) will lose to asd or yugioh. (well, perhaps not yugioh xD And he lost 2-1...while MC lost to Monster or whatever his name was)

And I did not expect him to win the group, I'm far from thinking he'll 4-0, I just don't think he's a "mediocre protoss".

It's just hard to judge him against Korean players, because now he's like a foreign player in the sense of his sample size of games against korean players is minuscule.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 11 2011 23:22 GMT
#354
On December 12 2011 08:20 NMx.StyX wrote:
can you expect a better group?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? anywhere?!?!!??!!?!?!!?!, god damnit such a good group.
stephano mc mvp
dongraegu hero

i predict mvp, dongraegu, stephano, hero, mc


Sure I can, group B is better :p
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
December 11 2011 23:23 GMT
#355
Hope DRG and MVP make it first/second. DRG moreso though, since MVP has won too much already
...
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 11 2011 23:24 GMT
#356
Yeah, I like Group B more. MMA/Polt, Naniwa/Nestea, Leenock vs. Everyone (he eliminated Polt from Code S, MMA from Providence, beat Naniwa for Providence, and is directly competing with Nestea for best Zerg in the world) are all super hyped matches.

This group is great, though.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 11 2011 23:25 GMT
#357
On December 12 2011 01:43 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 01:39 Olinimm wrote:
MC got so boned on the maps...gets PvZ on crossfire and Dual sight and hero gets daybreak and shakuras. I am quite bitter about this :/.


I dont like stephanos map either playing MVP on shakuras worst zerg map ever in the l8tgame. We all saw what MVP did to Nestea on that map at blizzcon. Nonetheless gonna be so sick tomorow


My thoughts exactly. MVP is just about unbeatable lategame on Shakuras.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
December 11 2011 23:25 GMT
#358
such a päïnfül wait still like 10hrs til the even starts, but go go MVP and HerÖ!!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 11 2011 23:26 GMT
#359
On December 12 2011 08:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 08:20 NMx.StyX wrote:
can you expect a better group?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? anywhere?!?!!??!!?!?!!?!, god damnit such a good group.
stephano mc mvp
dongraegu hero

i predict mvp, dongraegu, stephano, hero, mc


Sure I can, group B is better :p


On December 12 2011 08:24 Fionn wrote:
Yeah, I like Group B more. MMA/Polt, Naniwa/Nestea, Leenock vs. Everyone (he eliminated Polt from Code S, MMA from Providence, beat Naniwa for Providence, and is directly competing with Nestea for best Zerg in the world) are all super hyped matches.

This group is great, though.

You guys are deluded! A group with Polt on it cannot be better than this group. And i say that only in comparison with group A.

For me at least i'd rather an MVP than MMA, MC over Naniwa; the only thing that grabs my attention to group B is to see Nani vs Nestea rematch
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
December 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#360
On December 12 2011 08:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 08:20 NMx.StyX wrote:
can you expect a better group?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? anywhere?!?!!??!!?!?!!?!, god damnit such a good group.
stephano mc mvp
dongraegu hero

i predict mvp, dongraegu, stephano, hero, mc


Sure I can, group B is better :p


Are you kidding me?
No MVP in group b and Polt is not as good as the others
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