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Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable. And as always: - No player bashing. - No caster bashing. - No balance whining. Enjoy the games. | ||
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Gin-san
Croatia92 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
Stephano has 71% wr in gm while idra has 54. That should be a pretty good clue to how ridiculously good Stephano actually is. | ||
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Esk23
United States447 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:42 Sfydjklm wrote: Stephano is 3rd highest ranked zerg in korean GM. Stephano has 71% wr in gm while idra has 54. That should be a pretty good clue to how ridiculously good Stephano actually is. Ladder doesn't mean much, MVP is ranked what? Barely in the top 200 with a %54 winning percentage yet is the best player in the world. | ||
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MuK_x
743 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:42 Sfydjklm wrote: Stephano is 3rd highest ranked zerg in korean GM. Stephano has 71% wr in gm while idra has 54. That should be a pretty good clue to how ridiculously good Stephano actually is. because when IdrA seeing 11/11 rax,he instantly leave the game. or any cheesy openings. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:46 Esk23 wrote: Ladder doesn't mean much, MVP is ranked what? Barely in the top 200 with a %54 winning percentage yet is the best player in the world. To be fair to MVP, he does play random. | ||
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masakenji
Australia415 Posts
mvp - DRG - Stephano - MC - Hero | ||
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Esk23
United States447 Posts
That's true. | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
he does hehe and still got a 54% win ratio the man is a monster lol | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:48 MuK_x wrote: because when IdrA seeing 11/11 rax,he instantly leave the game. or any cheesy openings. Because you can't defend proxy 11/11 when you hatch first? Stephano goes speed first, and idra was too complacent because NA/EU terrans don't punish hatch first very often. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:46 Esk23 wrote: Ladder doesn't mean much, MVP is ranked what? Barely in the top 200 with a %54 winning percentage yet is the best player in the world. Oh ladder means a lot it just really means MVP is bad due to that low win %. Damn didn't realize it was so low what a nooby. In honesty though I hate how much people are putting on ladder win rate. Stephano's good there is no doubt but ladder isn't a way to say "he's easily one of the best players in the world look at his korean domination". If he gets completely dominated today it won't surprise me but it also won't surprise me if he does advance. We shall see how he fares vs all these top tier koreans today  .I mean MVP/MC/Hero/DRG will be insanely hard and I think those 4 are better then stephano imo. On December 12 2011 05:50 SafeAsCheese wrote: Because you can't defend proxy 11/11 when you hatch first? Stephano goes speed first, and idra was too complacent because NA/EU terrans don't punish hatch first very often. You can defend it but not when you gas before pool (which even then July held it but was to far behind because of that such delayed pool when hatch firsting). Not impossible and stop saying it is because you are wrong. | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:46 Esk23 wrote: Ladder doesn't mean much, MVP is ranked what? Barely in the top 200 with a %54 winning percentage yet is the best player in the world. Stop deluding you self. Ofcourse ladder means something the top korean players spending hours and hours practising on the ladder. If ladder didnt mean nothing they would just play custom. Just a fact before MMA and DRG got known they were a ladder beast with big win %. And in korea its actually very rare to see zergs with high win % on the korean GM | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:48 MuK_x wrote: because when IdrA seeing 11/11 rax,he instantly leave the game. or any cheesy openings. and he will continually be cheesed/all-inned because he doesn't put in enough practice to show that cheesing/all-inning against him isn't worth the risk | ||
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masakenji
Australia415 Posts
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NipponBanzai
Canada518 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:51 HappyChris wrote: Stop deluding you self. Ofcourse ladder means something the top korean players spending hours and hours practising on the ladder. If ladder didnt mean nothing they would just play custom. Just a fact before MMA and DRG got known they were a ladder beast with big win %. And in korea its actually very rare to see zergs with high win % on the korean GM I'm pretty sure they do custom. Especially when practicing for a tournament. Otherwise you are just showing off your builds... | ||
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LeFroMaGe
United States628 Posts
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Esk23
United States447 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:51 HappyChris wrote: Stop deluding you self. Ofcourse ladder means something the top korean players spending hours and hours practising on the ladder. If ladder didnt mean nothing they would just play custom. Just a fact before MMA and DRG got known they were a ladder beast with big win %. And in korea its actually very rare to see zergs with high win % on the korean GM Sorry buddy I said it doesn't mean much, not that is doesn't mean anything. Learn to read. Judging a player based on where he is on the Korean ladder is silly. You have players who aren't that accomplished in the top 10 and have players like MVP/Nestea (could go on) who are no where near. Go by tournament results, Stephano has done pretty well but compare his accomplishments against the players in the Blizzard Cup and keep in mind foreign tournaments are much easier than Korean tournaments, that is a fact. Stephano is one of the best foreigners but he's going up against the best Koreans who are considered the best players in the world. I'd say Stephano is the worst player in his group I don't expect him to advance. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:30 Esk23 wrote: You clearly don't have a clue because vP is MVP's worst matchup with vZ being almost as good as his vT. If MVP is going to lose it's going to be against MC/Hero, though he owned both of them at MLG Providence. Then again DRG has had a ton of practice time and shit loads of VODs of MVP TvZ. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:59 K3Nyy wrote: Generally, people who have insane win rates on ladder are usually the best players. Obviously they don't try their best on ladder but to get 70% on Korean server is ridiculously insane. This is obviously not the case. | ||
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ssg
United States1774 Posts
1. MVP 2. DRG 3. MC 4. Stephano 5. Hero | ||
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