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On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers.
not a non-believer. i just see the results.
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I just wish sase could get his nerves together on lan, he deserves a big title.
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On December 09 2011 11:39 Bagration wrote:
I hope that this loss encourages Liquid to work harder, rather than discourage them.
I doubt TLPro will even run an article of this episode, considering that there was no news of Hero and Zenio's losses in Code A, yet minutes after Hero won DH, the news was up.
Why on earth would TLPro feature this? Of course they hype victories and positive news for the team. And I guess, if I were to indulge in the rather far fetched concept that a loss like this in a tournament such as this would ever discourage a team from improving, Hero went on to win Dreamhack with Ret placing top four in the tournament after these games were played.
But yeah, Sase looked incredibly good. Really happy for him, I hope that he shakes his nerves when it comes to the GSL and will be able to make progress there. <3
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On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers.
In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this.
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On December 09 2011 11:47 Leifish wrote:
Why didn't Zenio play?
I think this was played before he joined.
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Haypro was just having an excellent day at Providence. Mvp has an excellent day every fucking day.
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On December 09 2011 11:45 Porcelina wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:39 Bagration wrote:
I hope that this loss encourages Liquid to work harder, rather than discourage them.
I doubt TLPro will even run an article of this episode, considering that there was no news of Hero and Zenio's losses in Code A, yet minutes after Hero won DH, the news was up. Why on earth would TLPro feature this? Of course they hype victories and positive news for the team. And I guess, if I were to indulge in the rather far fetched concept that a loss like this in a tournament such as this would ever discourage a team from improving, Hero went on to win Dreamhack with Ret placing top four in the tournament after these games were played. But yeah, Sase looked incredibly good. Really happy for him, I hope that he shakes his nerves when it comes to the GSL and will be able to make progress there. <3
I remember TLPro used to give tournament recaps (good and bad), as well as Hero's performances (good and bad) in the past few GSLs. TLPro is supposed to be a news outlet for the team, and even in bad news, they should report it and hopefully encourage their players to do better in the future. But to selectively report only the good news, that sounds like propaganda or something that Fox News would do to me, and I do not believe that Liquid is that type of organization.
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On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this.
just saying.
That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans.
Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions.
also @aviator116
you must learn difference between "see" and "look".
you just look to results but not seeing truth.
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On December 09 2011 11:51 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this. just saying. That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans. Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions.
Please stop this ridiculous bias. Hero and Zenio can't even maintain Code A spots. IM has like 4 (or is it 5 now?) Code S players. They would still get stomped.
Plus I don't see how Zenio and Jinro are on their best condiditions when Zenio just lost in Code A and Jinro hasn't..........................?
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On December 09 2011 11:51 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this. just saying. That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans. Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions.
Um, don't you think that is kind of a...big...statement to make, especially since Liquid just got all killed by not MVP, not Nestea, not even Losira, but Sase, a foreigner with no significant tournament results? As much as I would love to see Liquid do that, that is almost impossible. I really respect your loyalty to the team, and I wish I could be as optimistic as you, but results beg to differ. 
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On December 09 2011 11:53 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:51 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this. just saying. That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans. Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions. Please stop this ridiculous bias. Hero and Zenio can't even maintain Code A spots. IM has like 4 (or is it 5 now?) Code S players. They would still get stomped. Plus I don't see how Zenio and Jinro are on their best condiditions when Zenio just lost in Code A and Jinro hasn't..........................?
Don't bother. He's the kind of guy that would boast about how Liquid would stomp them easily next time even if they got all killed by Destiny. Or he's a troll. I vote for the latter, either way there's no winning here.
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On December 09 2011 11:51 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this. just saying. That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans. Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions. also @aviator116 you must learn difference between "see" and "look". you just look to results but not seeing truth.
This is pretty funny. Thanks for the laugh :D
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On December 09 2011 11:49 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:45 Porcelina wrote:On December 09 2011 11:39 Bagration wrote:
I hope that this loss encourages Liquid to work harder, rather than discourage them.
I doubt TLPro will even run an article of this episode, considering that there was no news of Hero and Zenio's losses in Code A, yet minutes after Hero won DH, the news was up. Why on earth would TLPro feature this? Of course they hype victories and positive news for the team. And I guess, if I were to indulge in the rather far fetched concept that a loss like this in a tournament such as this would ever discourage a team from improving, Hero went on to win Dreamhack with Ret placing top four in the tournament after these games were played. But yeah, Sase looked incredibly good. Really happy for him, I hope that he shakes his nerves when it comes to the GSL and will be able to make progress there. <3 I remember TLPro used to give tournament recaps (good and bad), as well as Hero's performances (good and bad) in the past few GSLs. TLPro is supposed to be a news outlet for the team, and even in bad news, they should report it and hopefully encourage their players to do better in the future. But to selectively report only the good news, that sounds like propaganda or something that Fox News would do to me, and I do not believe that Liquid is that type of organization.
But it is not a news organisation. I am sure they will report every now and again on losses, especially important ones. They did a piece on Hero losing to Puma in the NASL finals. However, tournaments that are broadcasted three weeks or so after being played I very much doubt. Perhaps they would make a piece if Liquid won, hell, they might even surprise me and put up something about this match, but I cannot imagine it is something they would prioritise. Furthermore, looking at the amount of work Liquid staff have put in as of late and just guessing at their resource allocation, it would not seem reasonable to expect articles about losing in this kind of tournament at this point in time. Of course they will write about live event wins (or losses) when they have staff at the actual tournament, this kind of stuff is quite different.
I guess I just think it is very far fetched to believe that losing this series will demotivate any Liquid player or staff. And likening TLPro to Fox News because they will likely not report on this loss similarly strange.
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On December 09 2011 11:51 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this. just saying. That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans. Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions. also @aviator116 you must learn difference between "see" and "look". you just look to results but not seeing truth.
...i see the two strongest zergs on TL losing to vastly different gamestyles. i see their ONLY terran getting rolled. i see hero, the best hope of TL, and tyler losing to another protoss in what is said to be the most dangerous matchup. what truth am i not seeing in these results? that TL was holding back? that 5 separate members of TL failed to win one game?
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Certainly didn't expect that. Wouldn't have been surprised if it was MVP, Nestea or even Losira. But Sase? Thats a real big surprise man.
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On December 09 2011 11:53 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:51 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this. just saying. That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans. Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions. Please stop this ridiculous bias. Hero and Zenio can't even maintain Code A spots. IM has like 4 (or is it 5 now?) Code S players. They would still get stomped. Plus I don't see how Zenio and Jinro are on their best condiditions when Zenio just lost in Code A and Jinro hasn't..........................?
You should watch Jinro's stream and ESV korean weekly.
Jinro played close games against SlayerSTaeja,he is improved soooooo much and slowly backing his old days.
Zenio just lose to MKP.(this guy only lose BoX TvZ against NesTea)
and HerO... Sweden(Dreamhack) > USA(NASL) > Korea(GSL) what do you expect? He did pretty well for his busy schedule.
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On December 09 2011 11:51 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this. just saying. That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans. Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions. also @aviator116 you must learn difference between "see" and "look". you just look to results but not seeing truth.
Stop being ridiculous. I'm one of the biggest Liquid fans around, but they got absolutely demolished today and even in best conditions, they would be big underdogs vs QIM's roster.
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On December 09 2011 11:59 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:53 1Eris1 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:51 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:46 Bagration wrote:On December 09 2011 11:40 MuK_x wrote:On December 09 2011 11:38 aviator116 wrote:On December 09 2011 11:34 MuK_x wrote:
that was pretty dissapointing by teamliquid BUT that games was played like 1.5 month ago.
also npnp loser bracket to champion!
go go TL! LOL this guy...first he says TL would win against every SC2 team in the world, after losing to one player, he goes on to say that they'll win from the loser's bracket...just fyi, Mouz got knocked into the loser's bracket too. and thorzain, morrow, mana, and hasuobs are all great players. On December 09 2011 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
How is this unexpected? Sase is a great player. He's easily favored against Jinro, Sheth, and Tyler. What's the mystery? Versus hero is kind of a toss-up (pun unintended), so it kind of makes perfect sense when you think about it, right? forever underrated T__T i guess nobody thought that he would be able to win 5 straight games against varied players and styles. LOL at non-believers. In all honesty, it's been a tough few months for Liquid. There was once a time when Liquid dominated the foreign scene, and Jinro was over in Korea doing very well in the GSL (back to back semis). Now look at them. Hero's been doing pretty well, but his wins were largely against foreigners (except Puma at DH). But Jinro cannot even qualify for Code A anymore, Tyler and TLO have not had results in months. Haypro had a good MLG Providence, only to get knocked out in the first round at DH. Ret's been doing decently well, but not anything really impressive. Huk plays for EG now. It's been tough for Liquid, and now this. just saying. That games played like 1.5 month ago,if there is a rematch between QIM and TL in this times,TL will destroy QIM even with their "BIG" koreans. Currently HerO,Ret,JinrO,Zenio is on their best conditions. Please stop this ridiculous bias. Hero and Zenio can't even maintain Code A spots. IM has like 4 (or is it 5 now?) Code S players. They would still get stomped. Plus I don't see how Zenio and Jinro are on their best condiditions when Zenio just lost in Code A and Jinro hasn't..........................? You should watch Jinro's stream and ESV korean weekly. Jinro played close games against SlayerSTaeja,he is improved soooooo much and slowly backing his old days. Zenio just lose to MKP.(this guy only lose BoX TvZ against NesTea) and HerO... Sweden(Dreamhack) > USA(NASL) > Korea(GSL) what do you expect? He did pretty well for his busy schedule.
and i'll also point out that Jinro lost to an unknown zerg less than a week ago. zenio got steamrolled by Bomber on live stream. Hero is their best shot.
oh yeah, taeja lost to MVP. beat QIM my ass.
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