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On December 03 2011 12:31 claash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:23 Alpino wrote:On December 03 2011 12:21 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:19 Alpino wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog. Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest. MaNa is better than Hasu, MaNa is the best Protoss in europe by far. By far. Look at your right(TLPD). (NaNi and SaSe are in Korea, just reminding.) TLPD.alright.thats all what counts Yes TLPD is not a good way to attest a players regularity right, I mean, Nerchio, MaNa, Stephano, NaNiwa and Sen. its a tendence.but not the best option to look whos the best for sure i mean bling over ret and sase?nestea on 85? darkforce over hasuobs? etc.
If NesTea had actually did well in his international tournaments he would be placed higher. But where it matters for him(where has a lot of games played, therefore a truer rank) he is in fourth. Ret and SaSe as well don't play a lot of tournaments. My point is if a guy is second at the TLPD he HAS to be fucking good, the with MaNa. (even though he doesn't have the best PvZ in the world.)
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On December 03 2011 12:32 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:27 Loxley wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this TT1 wasn't at dallas as far as i know. he was there and he barely lost to Liquid`Jiinro in the finals. Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:26 yoshi245 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this Are you delusional, ignorant, or just trolling? I don't even dislike TT1, but you either are oblivious to what Mana has done this year compared to TT1. He's far more accomplished and easily a much higher ranked foreigner toss. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1214_MaNa look buddy you dont have to resort to name calling when you have a difference of opinion its fine if you are a fan of mana over tt1 but to put go4sc2 weekend cups amongs tourneys like MLG is just ridiculous. there are plenty of players who win a lot of the EU weekend cups (stephanio comes to mind) that never were able to perform when it counted at MLG.
mana is definitely better than tt1 (even tho thats not my discussion)
you can tell me what u want xd
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On December 03 2011 12:34 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
What's happening? Aren't they behind schedule? How come they're not starting?
i heard players have to set up and get settings right befor they can play
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Does american tournaments have a competition of most down time between series?
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On December 03 2011 12:34 sleepyguy wrote:
At this rate the NASL games will finish around 5am est for me. And GSL starts at 3am for me (no sleeping tonight)
its already 5am here in germany. wanna see idra strelok which is like still 2 games away though 
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On December 03 2011 12:35 Whiteman103 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:34 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
What's happening? Aren't they behind schedule? How come they're not starting? i heard players have to set up and get settings right befor they can play
Like in any other tournament. Shouldn't take this long.
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so if theyre 1.5 hours behind, will they still show all the matches tonight, and do I have to buy another pass to view the vods if they do...spent 25 on reg season when they gave free HD to every1 halfway through >.>
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On December 03 2011 12:35 Alpino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:31 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:23 Alpino wrote:On December 03 2011 12:21 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:19 Alpino wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog. Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest. MaNa is better than Hasu, MaNa is the best Protoss in europe by far. By far. Look at your right(TLPD). (NaNi and SaSe are in Korea, just reminding.) TLPD.alright.thats all what counts Yes TLPD is not a good way to attest a players regularity right, I mean, Nerchio, MaNa, Stephano, NaNiwa and Sen. its a tendence.but not the best option to look whos the best for sure i mean bling over ret and sase?nestea on 85? darkforce over hasuobs? etc. If NesTea had actually did well in his international tournaments he would be placed higher. But where it matters for him(where has a lot of games played, therefore a truer rank) he is in fourth. Ret and SaSe as well don't play a lot of tournaments.
oh wow you understand it a bit..im impressed
now imagine why hasu is not way higher on that list?
or why bling is too high etc.
you can do it bro!
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On December 03 2011 12:32 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:27 Loxley wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this TT1 wasn't at dallas as far as i know. he was there and he barely lost to Liquid`Jiinro in the finals. Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:26 yoshi245 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this Are you delusional, ignorant, or just trolling? I don't even dislike TT1, but you either are oblivious to what Mana has done this year compared to TT1. He's far more accomplished and easily a much higher ranked foreigner toss. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1214_MaNa look buddy you dont have to resort to name calling when you have a difference of opinion its fine if you are a fan of mana over tt1 but to put go4sc2 weekend cups amongs tourneys like MLG is just ridiculous. there are plenty of players who win a lot of the EU weekend cups (stephanio comes to mind) that never were able to perform when it counted at MLG.
TT1 hasn't done anything recently.... that tournament was in 2010... tt1 hasn't even made it to pool play when it even counted (koreans arrived, game started being figured out)
this year what has tt1 done?
mana has taken 2nd in the ESWC finals versus stephano and placed 3rd at IEM cologne (which puma won, followed by MC)
so yes mana is better than TT1
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On December 03 2011 12:36 leo23 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:32 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:27 Loxley wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this TT1 wasn't at dallas as far as i know. he was there and he barely lost to Liquid`Jiinro in the finals. On December 03 2011 12:26 yoshi245 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this Are you delusional, ignorant, or just trolling? I don't even dislike TT1, but you either are oblivious to what Mana has done this year compared to TT1. He's far more accomplished and easily a much higher ranked foreigner toss. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1214_MaNa look buddy you dont have to resort to name calling when you have a difference of opinion its fine if you are a fan of mana over tt1 but to put go4sc2 weekend cups amongs tourneys like MLG is just ridiculous. there are plenty of players who win a lot of the EU weekend cups (stephanio comes to mind) that never were able to perform when it counted at MLG. TT1 hasn't done anything recently.... that tournament was in 2010... tt1 hasn't even made it to pool play when it even counted (koreans arrived, game started being figured out) this year what has tt1 done? mana has taken 2nd in the ESWC finals versus stephano and placed 3rd at IEM cologne (which puma won, followed by MC) so yes mana is better than TT1
Ignore him he is just trolling, other people have mentioned he has done this in the past just to bait responses.
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thank god i learned to read lips in my spare time
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sound guy really dropped the ball here.
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If only I could hear you WHEAT. T_T
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Sound guy still working there I notice.
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On December 03 2011 12:34 sleepyguy wrote:
At this rate the NASL games will finish around 5am est for me. And GSL starts at 3am for me (no sleeping tonight)
It's 4:37am for me now. xD
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