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Same drill as usual:
  • No caster bashing.
  • Excessive tournament bashing that detracts from game discussion will be met with moderator action. Criticism is welcome, whining is not.
  • In general do your best to stay on topic and discuss what we're all here for: the games.
Enjoy the games guys.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6701
On December 03 2011 12:15 Dr.Sin wrote:
I think we'll see a Hero final and I don't think anyone could beat him except PuMa... It could be a repeat of MLG Providence.


They seem to hit in about every tournament they enter :-/ wouldn't be surprised if it is the final of the NASL. I hope it isn't though.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6702
morrow rocking a new haircut...?!
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6703
On December 03 2011 12:13 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote:
I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly.

Thats a bold statement


Some people don't actually play the game, don't even bother.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6704
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset


I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1,

MaNa
Huk
Naniwa
HasuObs
Whitera

I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made.
Hey! How you doin'?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6705
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset

He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog.
Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
gForce.
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom345 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6706
I'm 90% sure that MaNa is going to use this song for entrance.
+ Show Spoiler +

Juanald
Profile Joined February 2011
United States354 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6707
On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset

This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset.



how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this
"hey it could happen!" ~ angels n the outfield
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 03:20:16
December 03 2011 03:19 GMT
#6708
just wanted to point out a couple things the casters missed

The pylon full wall into kill-pylon-later is intentional I think. Rather than having to build 2 cannons, he makes 1 cannon + 1 pylon which is a bit cheaper, then kills it later when he no longer needs to deny the backdoor ling run by.

And the late cyber core with emphasis on getting a TON of probes is also intentional and how tt1 prefers to play, he likes his probes. Also the criticism for getting 6 WG but not doing anything with it is misunderstood I think.. getting more WG than normal in a passive build makes sense when you first are going for a faster econ like he was, plus having later warpgates as a result.

And lastly when tt1 did his sentry drops to FF the mineral patches, that was to deny mining time with basically only energy spent, energy that would just sit at max 200 anyway, yet they said it didn't do anything and sen is unharassable. He did however lose 1 sentry though.
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
December 03 2011 03:19 GMT
#6709
the mass roach style is a reason i do alot of double robo lots of immortal play in PvZ now. 2 bases can crank out 2 immortals and 6 stalkers a minute (roughly) with some zealots added in and maybe just 1 collossi (to be anti-ling) its enough to tear apart the roach into muta style ive found
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
December 03 2011 03:19 GMT
#6710
On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset


I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1,

MaNa
Huk
Naniwa
HasuObs
Whitera

I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made.


even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 03 2011 03:19 GMT
#6711
On December 03 2011 12:19 claash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset


I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1,

MaNa
Huk
Naniwa
HasuObs
Whitera

I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made.


even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well

Grubby and SaSe ...
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 03:20:21
December 03 2011 03:19 GMT
#6712
On December 03 2011 12:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset

He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog.
Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest.


MaNa is better than Hasu, MaNa is the best Protoss in europe by far. By far. Look at your right(TLPD).

(NaNi and SaSe are in Korea, just reminding.)
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
December 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#6713
On December 03 2011 12:18 gForce. wrote:
I'm 90% sure that MaNa is going to use this song for entrance.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM89T74MPnE



wp, sir :D
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#6714
On December 03 2011 12:15 T.O.P. wrote:
I hear there's less than 100 people at NASL Finals.


I heard there are fewer than 10 But at least 2 are awesome Sen fans.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
December 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#6715
GO MORROW!!! I like his new look as well!!!
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
December 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#6716
On December 03 2011 12:15 Dr.Sin wrote:
I think we'll see a Hero final and I don't think anyone could beat him except PuMa... It could be a repeat of MLG Providence.


yeah leenock naniwa!!!

oh wait... I think you mean dreamhack?
banelings
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
December 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#6717
On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset

This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset.



how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this

Please tell me that youre joking O.o
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 03:21:35
December 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#6718
On December 03 2011 12:13 Weson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

HerO ... ?


nvm.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
December 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#6719
On December 03 2011 12:19 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:19 claash wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset


I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1,

MaNa
Huk
Naniwa
HasuObs
Whitera

I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made.


even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well

Grubby and SaSe ...


the list wont end unfortunately lol
sase..ok..but i would wait for grubby a bit.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
December 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#6720
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset

lol, TT1 is not Top 5 foreign Toss, much less top 3.

Top 5 I would probably rank like this:
Nani, Huk, Mana, Sase, HasuObs
And there are 15+ more that are better than TT1 after these.
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