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Same drill as usual: - No caster bashing.
- Excessive tournament bashing that detracts from game discussion will be met with moderator action. Criticism is welcome, whining is not.
- In general do your best to stay on topic and discuss what we're all here for: the games.
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On December 03 2011 12:15 Dr.Sin wrote: I think we'll see a Hero final and I don't think anyone could beat him except PuMa... It could be a repeat of MLG Providence.
They seem to hit in about every tournament they enter :-/ wouldn't be surprised if it is the final of the NASL. I hope it isn't though.
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morrow rocking a new haircut...?!
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On December 03 2011 12:13 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote: I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly. Thats a bold statement
Some people don't actually play the game, don't even bother.
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset
I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1,
MaNa Huk Naniwa HasuObs Whitera
I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made.
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog. Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest.
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On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset.
how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this
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just wanted to point out a couple things the casters missed
The pylon full wall into kill-pylon-later is intentional I think. Rather than having to build 2 cannons, he makes 1 cannon + 1 pylon which is a bit cheaper, then kills it later when he no longer needs to deny the backdoor ling run by.
And the late cyber core with emphasis on getting a TON of probes is also intentional and how tt1 prefers to play, he likes his probes. Also the criticism for getting 6 WG but not doing anything with it is misunderstood I think.. getting more WG than normal in a passive build makes sense when you first are going for a faster econ like he was, plus having later warpgates as a result.
And lastly when tt1 did his sentry drops to FF the mineral patches, that was to deny mining time with basically only energy spent, energy that would just sit at max 200 anyway, yet they said it didn't do anything and sen is unharassable. He did however lose 1 sentry though.
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the mass roach style is a reason i do alot of double robo lots of immortal play in PvZ now. 2 bases can crank out 2 immortals and 6 stalkers a minute (roughly) with some zealots added in and maybe just 1 collossi (to be anti-ling) its enough to tear apart the roach into muta style ive found
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On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1, MaNa Huk Naniwa HasuObs Whitera I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made.
even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well
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On December 03 2011 12:19 claash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1, MaNa Huk Naniwa HasuObs Whitera I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made. even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well Grubby and SaSe ...
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On December 03 2011 12:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog. Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest.
MaNa is better than Hasu, MaNa is the best Protoss in europe by far. By far. Look at your right(TLPD).
(NaNi and SaSe are in Korea, just reminding.)
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On December 03 2011 12:18 gForce. wrote:I'm 90% sure that MaNa is going to use this song for entrance. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM89T74MPnE
wp, sir :D
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On December 03 2011 12:15 T.O.P. wrote: I hear there's less than 100 people at NASL Finals.
I heard there are fewer than 10 But at least 2 are awesome Sen fans.
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GO MORROW!!! I like his new look as well!!!
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On December 03 2011 12:15 Dr.Sin wrote: I think we'll see a Hero final and I don't think anyone could beat him except PuMa... It could be a repeat of MLG Providence.
yeah leenock naniwa!!!
oh wait... I think you mean dreamhack?
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On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this Please tell me that youre joking O.o
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Weson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets HerO ... ?
nvm.
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On December 03 2011 12:19 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:19 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1, MaNa Huk Naniwa HasuObs Whitera I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made. even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well Grubby and SaSe ...
the list wont end unfortunately lol sase..ok..but i would wait for grubby a bit.
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset lol, TT1 is not Top 5 foreign Toss, much less top 3.
Top 5 I would probably rank like this: Nani, Huk, Mana, Sase, HasuObs And there are 15+ more that are better than TT1 after these.
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