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this is the first commercial ive gotten on the stream in like 2 hours
i dont have ad block
dunno why they dont show more commercials during breaks might as well get that money
EDIT: also i fricken hate the long as hell intros for each player before the games. really nasl is shooting themselves in the foot and just doing things like they wanna hurt themself on purpose
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36923 Posts
MANA!!!! MORROW!!!! WHO DO I ROOT FOR, THEY'RE ON THE SAME TEAM~!
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On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote: I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly. No, its really not easily stopped. Almost every zerg does mass roach in ZvP because its good. It murders toss aggression, makes it very difficult for toss to expand, and allows for the oh-so-common muta tech switch. Sen is a great player, he knows this, which is why he does it. As long as you don't sit back and let the protoss max out, trading roaches is the best playstyle at the moment by far.
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On December 03 2011 12:13 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote: I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly. Thats a bold ed statement
Fixed that for ya :D
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On December 03 2011 12:12 Devolved wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 JohnnyBanana wrote: There's no glass separating the 2 players? they're right across each other with no barrier...kind of stupid I think Why? Sitting across your opponent...losing to him...yeah that doesn't build up pressure at all, nope. Can't say it would make TT1 nervous or anything, nope.
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I really wanted to see tt1 pull out the upset but sen just did such an amazing job of denying thirds. Gotta tip my hat to him for good games.
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On December 03 2011 12:11 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Whiteman103 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:09 HuKPOWA wrote: Picking Dual Sight sorta signed his own Death! theres a reason he did most pros say its a toss map!!! And that reason is...their 20% winrate vZ on it ? :D (I know 20% is an exaggeration)
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/445_Dual_Sight
32.6% it seems
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Weson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets HerO ... ?
and mana????
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Russian Federation899 Posts
On December 03 2011 12:13 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote: I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly. Thats a bold statement
i see what u did there
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On December 03 2011 12:11 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Whiteman103 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:09 HuKPOWA wrote: Picking Dual Sight sorta signed his own Death! theres a reason he did most pros say its a toss map!!! And that reason is...their 20% winrate vZ on it ? :D (I know 20% is an exaggeration) Whats the new stats for it now? 2 base play is better now (for toss) and 3rd is either at weird ramp or short air from Z main. Most P just do 2 base Blink or Void or Gateway or Colo timing. The paths at all the base are all rather narrow.
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset I won't even consider tt1 to be in the top 10 tbh
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On December 03 2011 12:11 HuKPOWA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets Yes huK and Hwang :\
hero mana and hasuobs are clearly better than hwangsin
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
I hear there's less than 100 people at NASL Finals.
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset
You're flat out wrong. TT1 is a strong player, but of all the protoss players present he and Hwangsin would definitely be considered the two weakest.
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On December 03 2011 12:13 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote: I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly. Thats a bold statement
Hahaha nice one there
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its taken 6 hours to get through half the matches gonna be a long night
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset Huk? Yes. TT1? No. Not even close to being known as a top 3-5 foreigner.
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On December 03 2011 12:10 -y0shi- wrote: What can Toss do against this macro? YOu can either all in or play against 200/200 at 14 minutes :/
hehe the roach supply increase make it look that way. But i prefer a 200 zerg with 2 supply roaches then a 180 supply zerg with 1 supply roaches at the 14 minute mark xD. It still looks really depressing if a toss is 40 supply behind even though they had more workers most of the time XD.
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On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote: wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset.
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