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Same drill as usual:
  • No caster bashing.
  • Excessive tournament bashing that detracts from game discussion will be met with moderator action. Criticism is welcome, whining is not.
  • In general do your best to stay on topic and discuss what we're all here for: the games.
Enjoy the games guys.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 03:14:50
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6661
this is the first commercial ive gotten on the stream in like 2 hours

i dont have ad block

dunno why they dont show more commercials during breaks might as well get that money

EDIT: also i fricken hate the long as hell intros for each player before the games. really nasl is shooting themselves in the foot and just doing things like they wanna hurt themself on purpose
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37029 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6662
MANA!!!! MORROW!!!! WHO DO I ROOT FOR, THEY'RE ON THE SAME TEAM~!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6663
On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote:
I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly.

No, its really not easily stopped. Almost every zerg does mass roach in ZvP because its good. It murders toss aggression, makes it very difficult for toss to expand, and allows for the oh-so-common muta tech switch. Sen is a great player, he knows this, which is why he does it. As long as you don't sit back and let the protoss max out, trading roaches is the best playstyle at the moment by far.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6664
On December 03 2011 12:13 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote:
I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly.

Thats a bolded statement


Fixed that for ya :D
A time to live.
JohnnyBanana
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 03:15:26
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6665
On December 03 2011 12:12 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 JohnnyBanana wrote:
There's no glass separating the 2 players? they're right across each other with no barrier...kind of stupid I think

Why?

Sitting across your opponent...losing to him...yeah that doesn't build up pressure at all, nope. Can't say it would make TT1 nervous or anything, nope.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6666
I really wanted to see tt1 pull out the upset but sen just did such an amazing job of denying thirds.
Gotta tip my hat to him for good games.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9023 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6667
Mouz teamkill. Ouch.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6668
On December 03 2011 12:11 MrCon wrote:
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On December 03 2011 12:10 Whiteman103 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:09 HuKPOWA wrote:
Picking Dual Sight sorta signed his own Death!


theres a reason he did most pros say its a toss map!!!

And that reason is...their 20% winrate vZ on it ? :D (I know 20% is an exaggeration)


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/445_Dual_Sight

32.6% it seems
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6669
On December 03 2011 12:13 Weson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

HerO ... ?


and mana????
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6670
On December 03 2011 12:13 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote:
I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly.

Thats a bold statement


i see what u did there
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6671
On December 03 2011 12:11 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Whiteman103 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:09 HuKPOWA wrote:
Picking Dual Sight sorta signed his own Death!


theres a reason he did most pros say its a toss map!!!

And that reason is...their 20% winrate vZ on it ? :D (I know 20% is an exaggeration)

Whats the new stats for it now? 2 base play is better now (for toss) and 3rd is either at weird ramp or short air from Z main. Most P just do 2 base Blink or Void or Gateway or Colo timing. The paths at all the base are all rather narrow.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6672
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset

I won't even consider tt1 to be in the top 10 tbh
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
December 03 2011 03:14 GMT
#6673
On December 03 2011 12:11 HuKPOWA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets


Yes huK and Hwang :\


hero mana and hasuobs are clearly better than hwangsin
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6674
I hear there's less than 100 people at NASL Finals.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6675
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset


You're flat out wrong. TT1 is a strong player, but of all the protoss players present he and Hwangsin would definitely be considered the two weakest.
Elvedeta
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal395 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6676
On December 03 2011 12:13 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote:
I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly.

Thats a bold statement


Hahaha nice one there
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6677
its taken 6 hours to get through half the matches gonna be a long night
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6678
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset

Huk? Yes. TT1? No. Not even close to being known as a top 3-5 foreigner.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6679
On December 03 2011 12:10 -y0shi- wrote:
What can Toss do against this macro? YOu can either all in or play against 200/200 at 14 minutes :/



hehe the roach supply increase make it look that way. But i prefer a 200 zerg with 2 supply roaches then a 180 supply zerg with 1 supply roaches at the 14 minute mark xD.
It still looks really depressing if a toss is 40 supply behind even though they had more workers most of the time XD.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6680
On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets

lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions

please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset

This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset.
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