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Same drill as usual:
  • No caster bashing.
  • Excessive tournament bashing that detracts from game discussion will be met with moderator action. Criticism is welcome, whining is not.
  • In general do your best to stay on topic and discuss what we're all here for: the games.
Enjoy the games guys.
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6681
I think we'll see a Hero final and I don't think anyone could beat him except PuMa... It could be a repeat of MLG Providence.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6682
On December 03 2011 12:10 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:59 Alpino wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:58 Haydin wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:57 NPF wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:56 Issamu wrote:
WHAAAT???? no forcefields?????? why?


used to many last fight at natural.... I think.


Most of his sentries had 3+ bars of energy. There were enough for some. My guess is nerves made TT1 misclick and that was that.


My guess is he gave up when he saw the flank. No FFs can save you from that.


In Nani vs Stephano on Tal'Darim Nani's ball was in the center (which is VERY open) of the map and Stephano had like 3 flanks set up, but Nani just force fielded all of them and crushed the army

Nani was a bit ahead in that game though, but yeah he blocked off one direction and dealt with a third of stephanos army then stephano pulled back and lost a lot more. That's generally how it goes, pure roach is great when you manage to catch a protoss off guard.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6683
today only half finished. lol nice!

really worried for sen next round though. bratok showed excellent tvz and we all know that is sens main weakness ><
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
whuderE
Profile Joined December 2011
53 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#6684
i dont think anyone who knows what they are talking about would consider sen beating tt1 an upset, unless u mean tt1 winning a game is an upset
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6685
The appetizers are done, here we go with the main courses
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6686
On December 03 2011 12:15 T.O.P. wrote:
I hear there's less than 100 people at NASL Finals.

Oh dear.. Not good.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6687
On December 03 2011 12:14 Elwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote:
I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly.

No, its really not easily stopped. Almost every zerg does mass roach in ZvP because its good. It murders toss aggression, makes it very difficult for toss to expand, and allows for the oh-so-common muta tech switch. Sen is a great player, he knows this, which is why he does it. As long as you don't sit back and let the protoss max out, trading roaches is the best playstyle at the moment by far.


This. TT1 had 1 collo while sen was maxed. Sen's macro was just showcased there, maxing out at 13 mins... He could afford to trade alot. WP by sen. Sen is also very flexible.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6688
On December 03 2011 12:14 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 MrCon wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Whiteman103 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:09 HuKPOWA wrote:
Picking Dual Sight sorta signed his own Death!


theres a reason he did most pros say its a toss map!!!

And that reason is...their 20% winrate vZ on it ? :D (I know 20% is an exaggeration)


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/445_Dual_Sight

32.6% it seems

March version is a lot lot lot different than current one, its like comparing cross metal to close (ground) metal.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6689
On December 03 2011 12:15 Dr.Sin wrote:
I think we'll see a Hero final and I don't think anyone could beat him except PuMa... It could be a repeat of MLG Providence.

Or... you know... DH a week ago
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Supdude
Profile Joined August 2011
244 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6690
On December 03 2011 12:10 Anachronism wrote:
I really hope Sen doesn't do all roaches for the rest of the tournament, so easily stopped if the opponent reacts correctly.


I have to think that he is hiding some stuffs he wants to do later in the tournament... there is a good chance he will run into Hero again
homer001
Profile Joined October 2010
493 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6691
On December 03 2011 12:15 Dr.Sin wrote:
I think we'll see a Hero final and I don't think anyone could beat him except PuMa... It could be a repeat of MLG Providence.


u mean dreamhack
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6692
On December 03 2011 12:14 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:11 HuKPOWA wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets


Yes huK and Hwang :\


hero mana and hasuobs are clearly better than hwangsin

u missed the sarcasm
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 03 2011 03:16 GMT
#6693
Mana vs Morrow >< Heartbreaking matchup TT
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 03 2011 03:17 GMT
#6694
On December 03 2011 12:16 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:15 T.O.P. wrote:
I hear there's less than 100 people at NASL Finals.

Oh dear.. Not good.

Its a weekday. There was no one at IPL the first two days as well.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
December 03 2011 03:17 GMT
#6695
On December 03 2011 12:11 HuKPOWA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets


Yes huK and Hwang :\


the 2 best protoss haha
made my day
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
December 03 2011 03:17 GMT
#6696
I about lost it laughing when Sen contaminated the robo and that one dude in the crowd went nuts.

I'll hold my crowd opinion until after tomorrow. We saw a similar thing with IPL where it was a thin crowd on the Friday. Either way, so far the series have been really good. Some really fun games mixed in, several going 4-5 games deep. This is setting up to be a really fun weekend of SC.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
December 03 2011 03:17 GMT
#6697
On December 03 2011 12:16 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:14 Hierarch wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:11 MrCon wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:10 Whiteman103 wrote:
On December 03 2011 12:09 HuKPOWA wrote:
Picking Dual Sight sorta signed his own Death!


theres a reason he did most pros say its a toss map!!!

And that reason is...their 20% winrate vZ on it ? :D (I know 20% is an exaggeration)


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/445_Dual_Sight

32.6% it seems

March version is a lot lot lot different than current one, its like comparing cross metal to close (ground) metal.


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/499_Dual_Sight_1.1

not a big enough sample size to say anything
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
HigoSeco
Profile Joined December 2010
Chile232 Posts
December 03 2011 03:17 GMT
#6698
On December 03 2011 12:16 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:15 T.O.P. wrote:
I hear there's less than 100 people at NASL Finals.

Oh dear.. Not good.


that's way more than in the first couple of games. There were like 15 guys in the hwangsin vs hero match
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6699
On December 03 2011 12:15 Dr.Sin wrote:
I think we'll see a Hero final and I don't think anyone could beat him except PuMa... It could be a repeat of MLG Providence.


dreamhack not providence
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 03 2011 03:18 GMT
#6700
Cmon Puma/Hero final :D PvT is always fun to watch :D
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