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On December 03 2011 12:20 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:15 T.O.P. wrote:
I hear there's less than 100 people at NASL Finals. I heard there are fewer than 10  But at least 2 are awesome Sen fans.
That's not possible if you just count the number of players.
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On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this
Wtf? People shouldn't be bashing TT1 but Mana is one of the best protoss in Europe, having one the best PvT....
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People still fall for Juanald? LOL. I guess we all need to learn the hard way.
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On December 03 2011 12:20 Ventris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:18 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:15 dmnum wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset This....doesn't even make sense. Yes TT1 is good, but huk, hero and mana are all better than him. And sen was clearly the favorite, therefore it wasn't an upset. how soon people forget MLG dallas where tt1 took 2nd. im not sure who mana is but i doubt he has even made it to pool play in MLG... please dont disrespect player just becaues you dislike them artosis just did a long rant on the SOTG about this Please tell me that youre joking O.o
If he is it's a very elaborate troll attempt, If he's not, this might be the 1st non MLG event he's ever seen.
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On December 03 2011 12:19 Alpino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog. Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest. MaNa is better than Hasu, MaNa is the best Protoss in europe by far. By far. Look at your right(TLPD). (NaNi and SaSe are in Korea, just reminding.)
TLPD.alright.thats all what counts
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On December 03 2011 12:15 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset You're flat out wrong. TT1 is a strong player, but of all the protoss players present he and Hwangsin would definitely be considered the two weakest.
TT1 is so strong, Fanatic dropped him. He's so strong, he can make a pylon to block himself and then kill it.
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On December 03 2011 12:20 claash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:19 babylon wrote:On December 03 2011 12:19 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1, MaNa Huk Naniwa HasuObs Whitera I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made. even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well Grubby and SaSe ... the list wont end unfortunately lol sase..ok..but i would wait for grubby a bit.
Feel free to replace Grubby with ToD, then. (I do think Grubby's better though. He just keeps running into Stephano at like every tournament.)
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On December 03 2011 12:19 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:19 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1, MaNa Huk Naniwa HasuObs Whitera I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made. even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well Grubby and SaSe ...
Grubby has sick sick potential, always comes so close to having a break out :-(
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On December 03 2011 12:19 Zelniq wrote:
just wanted to point out a couple things the casters missed
The pylon full wall into kill-pylon-later is intentional I think. Rather than having to build 2 cannons, he makes 1 cannon + 1 pylon which is a bit cheaper, then kills it later when he no longer needs to deny the backdoor ling run by.
And the late cyber core with emphasis on getting a TON of probes is also intentional and how tt1 prefers to play, he likes his probes. Also the criticism for getting 6 WG but not doing anything with it is misunderstood I think.. getting more WG than normal in a passive build makes sense when you first are going for a faster econ like he was, plus having later warpgates as a result.
And lastly when tt1 did his sentry drops to FF the mineral patches, that was to deny mining time with basically only energy spent, energy that would just sit at max 200 anyway, yet they said it didn't do anything and sen is unharassable. He did however lose 1 sentry though.
yeah I thought there might be more to that than most people assumed
a couple of warp gates can be a long term investment as well if you produce a ton of early sentries and let them accumulate energy, even if they aren't used that much (although TT1 went for some prism harass as well)
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nasltv nasltv
Sen getting surrounded by fans after his win over TT1 at #NASLTV Ro16 pic.twitter.com/CRHrjwOI
woah give the man some space he might suffocate
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On December 03 2011 12:21 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:20 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:19 babylon wrote:On December 03 2011 12:19 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1, MaNa Huk Naniwa HasuObs Whitera I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made. even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well Grubby and SaSe ... the list wont end unfortunately lol sase..ok..but i would wait for grubby a bit. Feel free to replace Grubby with ToD, then. (I do think Grubby's better though.)
k i agree.but its freaking close between the 2 wc3-champs xd
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On December 03 2011 12:18 gForce. wrote:I'm 90% sure that MaNa is going to use this song for entrance. + Show Spoiler +
YES!
And yeah I totally meant Dreamhack. Wow. Fail. Thanks for catching that.
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On December 03 2011 12:21 Elem wrote:
People still fall for Juanald? LOL. I guess we all need to learn the hard way.
It did look like easy bait for a troll, has to be said. I nearly bit all the same :D
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Damn, I'm pretty hyped for the MorroW intro.
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On December 03 2011 12:19 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:19 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Zdrastochye wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset I can name 5 foreign protoss who are much better than TT1, MaNa Huk Naniwa HasuObs Whitera I could probably name a lot more, but as long as I prove he's not top 5 caliber, my point is made. even socke and elfi are better than TT1 as well Grubby and SaSe ...
I'd put Nightend and Tod above TT1 as well.
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On December 03 2011 12:22 leo23 wrote:Show nested quote +nasltv nasltv
Sen getting surrounded by fans after his win over TT1 at #NASLTV Ro16 pic.twitter.com/CRHrjwOI woah give the man some space he might suffocate
soooo many people. holy shit i hope sen is alright.
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On December 03 2011 12:21 claash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:19 Alpino wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog. Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest. MaNa is better than Hasu, MaNa is the best Protoss in europe by far. By far. Look at your right(TLPD). (NaNi and SaSe are in Korea, just reminding.) TLPD.alright.thats all what counts
What does count then? ladder ranking ?
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On December 03 2011 12:21 claash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:19 Alpino wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog. Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest. MaNa is better than Hasu, MaNa is the best Protoss in europe by far. By far. Look at your right(TLPD). (NaNi and SaSe are in Korea, just reminding.) TLPD.alright.thats all what counts
Yes TLPD is not a good way to attest a players regularity right, I mean, Nerchio, MaNa, Stephano, NaNiwa and Sen.
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On December 03 2011 12:23 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 12:21 claash wrote:On December 03 2011 12:19 Alpino wrote:On December 03 2011 12:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On December 03 2011 12:13 Juanald wrote:On December 03 2011 12:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:On December 03 2011 12:10 Juanald wrote:
wow the 2 best protoss eliminated already this is turning out to be the tourney of upsets lol 2 best protoss. not even close.. TT1 with very questionable decision making and sen crushed him for his bad decisions please leave the player bashing out of here huk and tt1 have been considered to be in the top 3 - top 5 of the foreign community since retail (old schooL).. dont let your hatred blind you. sen outplayed him this game and thats why it was an upset He wasn't exactly 'bahsing' TT1, more or less laughing at the statement that TT1 should be considered one of the 2 best protoss at this tournament. Which is a very valid statement. No offense to TT1 but even he says he's considered an underdog. Bottom line to say TT1 is top 2 Protoss in a tournament with HerO HuK Hasuobs MaNa and Hwangsin is just out right silly. IMO its pretty cleared the top 2 by far are HuK and HerO followed by Hasu then really a toss up(Pun definitely intended) between the rest. MaNa is better than Hasu, MaNa is the best Protoss in europe by far. By far. Look at your right(TLPD). (NaNi and SaSe are in Korea, just reminding.) TLPD.alright.thats all what counts What does count then? ladder ranking ?
simply everything;) all together
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